positives and negatives of the 1-3-1
I personally am not a huge fan of the 1-3-1. Belien is one of few, if not the only, d1 coach to regularly implement the 1-3-1. Belien's teams have never been above average in terms of defensive numbers. Y does he insist on using a formation that doesnt seem to be extremely effective.
Aright so I was hoping we could review the positives and negatives of the 1-3-1 formation and attempt to justify its use over the traditional 2-3 zone or 3-2 zone.
Positives:
-more steals
-harder to pass
Negatives:
-worse rebounding
-more post scoring
-more corner three pointers
I just dont get it. Our guard is constantly caught under the basket trying to defend or rebound over the opposing teams center. The guard under the basket also tends to struggle covering both corners of the court.
Are any of you guys a fan of the 1-3-1. I just dont think that we can expect every team to be as cold shooting the 3 as duke was.
Id like to note that I do recognize that we struggle in man defense as well. Do we just not have good defensive players? Is there some other system that you guys think wood fit our lineup.
December 31st, 2008 at 3:44 PM ^
The reasons I like it:
1)Forces teams to actually make shots. Easier said than done.
2)TRAPS...creating many turnovers
3)Forces said team to think more to beat it. Thus creating issues.(penetration) Yes, I said it.
Reason I don't like it:
1)It's not man defense.
Just like RR- When B gets his guys in there and buying in, they will be better at it.
December 31st, 2008 at 3:42 PM ^
the 1-3-1 being on pressuring the passer and if that's true then when the center has the ball in the post I think that it's safe to say the defense has broken down. As far as the corner three's, that's one of the lowest percentage shots in basketball and probably safer than the elbow three's the 2-3 tends to give up.
While our man-2-man D isn't pretty, I think that our players are really limiting what we can be effective at on defense, especially in the post. If Udoh had stayed I would like to believe we would be seeing some 2-3 or 3-2 because of his shot blocking ability.
Given time in the system they should only get better at it. The fact that we're winning games with young players running it should give hope for the future.
December 31st, 2008 at 5:02 PM ^
creates turnovers by pressuring the guards beyond the 3pt line, while denying passes into the post (if the D rotation is good). wisc's guards played lights out today (as did 45)... few TOs and good decisions. this is why the Ill Sun makes me nervous. they had few TOs (according to BTWonk) in their upset at Pur.
i think we're missing a great, athletic guard to play along the baseline... i think merritt and lee were the primary guys there today.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:11 PM ^
I understand the theory behind the 1-3-1 but the numbers say everything. Its easy to say "wait and things will improve wen belien gets his guys in". But the fact is that belien has never had a terrific defensive team. y does he continue to insist on using a 1-3-1 formation that has never had success, even during his strong years at WV.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:12 PM ^
I def agree that we cood use a game changing shot blocker to give some help defense wen the D breaks down and the ball gets into the post.
December 31st, 2008 at 7:35 PM ^
The 1-3-1 tends to generate a lot of turnovers, which can compensate for whatever shortcomings it may produce on the glass and on perimeter D. Wisconsin's one of those ultra-disciplined teams that basically doesn't turn it over, even against unusual defenses like the 1-3-1. Most teams won't handle it as well as they did.
At any rate, keep in mind that with our lack of size, man-to-man isn't necessarily a great option. Playing zone can help keep Sims out of foul trouble, which is essential.
December 31st, 2008 at 8:00 PM ^
I think the whole lacking a great big guy to play the middle of the center spot is rough too. We had guys like Merritt and Lee on Landry at times (like when he dunked by jumping over the defender). Wisconsin had a huge size advantage on our guards all night.
December 31st, 2008 at 8:32 PM ^
the 1-3-1 doesn't do too much in terms of holding teams to a low shooting %age (lower opp. shot %age, obvs) or rebounding (lowering # of opp. possessions).... so it doesn't seem like a good D in terms of those metrics. what it causes is TOs... basically empty possessions (no RB or shot).
and the TOs typically occu up at the key (away from the opp. goal near mid-court).... so the result is a GREAT chance to score in transition b/c you have 4 out of your 5 guys away from the basket and only 2-3 opponents away from the basket. so, the 1-3-1 may benefit the offense more than any other D scheme.
amirite? who's the gsimms for hoops around here?