OT: LA Rams QB comparison leading to super bowl
Found this non pay-walled analysis of LA Rams QBs Goff and Stafford play to be insightful: https://www.nfl.com/news/matthew-stafford-over-jared-goff-will-los-angeles-rams-qb-gamble-pay-off-with-lo
A look at some advanced metrics foreshadow some reasons for Stafford's super bowl success, and give insight to differences of 2 former 1st-round NFL draft picks.
February 15th, 2022 at 8:56 AM ^
If Matt had legs like Joe the Loins may have had many shots at the playoffs and who knows the Bowl?
February 15th, 2022 at 9:02 AM ^
Or an offensive line, he wouldn't have needed to have legs like joe.
February 15th, 2022 at 9:03 AM ^
After reading this I am assuming YOU know the bowl quite well
February 15th, 2022 at 11:37 AM ^
*quarterback wins Super Bowl in his literal first year away from Lions*
"Obviously that guy was the problem with the Lions."
February 15th, 2022 at 12:40 PM ^
It all starts with coaching.
February 15th, 2022 at 10:25 AM ^
Thanks for posting this. I do think the type of analysis in the linked article if superior to the "feelingsball" approach taken by many a pundit, however the author tries to make a point that I think is fairly suspect. He is essentially saying that the metrics don't show Stafford to be that much better than Goff in the regular season, however, the postseason is different and when looking at just the playoff metrics Stafford is superior. While the #'s don't lie, the sample size is just far too small to draw any meaningful conclusions from - it's a comparison of Stafford's 2021 3-games vs. Goff's 2018 3 games.
February 15th, 2022 at 12:21 PM ^
I thought an interesting point in the article addressed the success of the run game during Goff's Rams tenure. Goff's QB success declined as the run game faltered or was limited. In contrast, when the run game was absent, Stafford was able to excel and lead the team while relying on his arm. This occurred during the season, playoffs, and Super Bowl.
Stafford's stats for the year are impressive, ranking with the best QB performances in the league for the year https://www.lineups.com/nfl/quarterback-qb-stats , resulting in his being the QB wearing "the ring," the most impressive stat of all.
February 15th, 2022 at 5:09 PM ^
I am close with the Rams organization…and had the privilege of watching Goff and Stafford in their Super Bowls for the Rams. Goff is physically gifted…but he is no longer a Ram purely because he did not have the tools upstairs to continue on with a gifted Coach like McVay.
February 15th, 2022 at 12:14 PM ^
Here's the insanity from that article:
Goff's time-to-throw was HALF A SECOND SLOWER when he was being blitzed.
All else being equal...do you think that a Lions QB or a Rams QB is going to be pressured more? Trading Stafford to get Goff was a doozy of a headscratcher.
I posted yesterday how I watched a couple Rams games after the Pats ate their lunch in the Super Bowl, and Goff always seemed a tick slow (usually while receivers ran wide open or open windows closed). Like he didn't quite know what he was looking at.
It was a very familiar look, and I bet DPJ has nightmares where he's running on an open field straight toward the endzone, looks for the ball, and all of sudden the whistle blows and the stadium announcer blurts out the familiar phrase "Patterson's pass is incomplete." He looks around, confused. The nearest defender is 10 yards away...and the ball is 10 yards further than that, bouncing harmlessly on the turf...
February 15th, 2022 at 12:45 PM ^
Being an NFL QB might be the most mentally challenging position in sports. It’s why Brady is what he is and it’s why so many great college QBs flame out.
The talent level, speed of the game, and game planning is just an awesome challenge week in and week out.
February 15th, 2022 at 2:40 PM ^
I'm confused by your point of trading Stafford to get Goff as being what that trade was about.
Stafford wanted out and the Lions were ready to start a real rebuild. The Rams gave up an additional 1st round pick to unload Goff and his contract in the trade. No one was trying to get Goff.
February 15th, 2022 at 12:57 PM ^
I don't know how fair it is to compare a QB in his third season (year Goff made SB) with one in his 13th season (year Stafford made SB)
Also, I imagine it's a vastly different experience playing against Zac Taylor and the Bengals in the SB and Bill Belichick and the Patriots.