OT - Film Study by Brett Kollman

Submitted by canzior on

https://youtu.be/UQEX7DGs8tE

If you haven't already seen this guy on YouTube, he does a fantastic job of breaking down players. I was interested in Joey Bosa's eval because I've heard that a couple college coaches who coached against OSU during his time were convinced he'd be a bust. Short version is that 6 of his 10.5 sacks were gifts, due to scheme or coverage sacks. He halso had trouble against Lewan, which starts around the 8 minute mark. Brett praises Lewan and his experience and ability to shut down Bosa. He has a lot of good evals if you're interested in that kind of thing.

 

Edit: Cleaned up some autocorrect errors

canzior

May 26th, 2017 at 8:02 AM ^

he explained each of his sacks, and he only "created" 4.5 sacks on his own, and none against elite athletes or veterans. He is more likely to be a solid 10+ year player than a JJ Watt type ie: taking over games.  Apparently he isn't an elite athlete, just excellent technique so when he plays against other technically sound tackles, he gets washed out. He spends about a minute showing Taylor Lewan stifling him over and over again.  

He still reiterated, he'll be a good player, but elite athletes, not technically sound players are usually taken that high in the draft, which seems to be the issue people had with that pick.

Casanova

May 26th, 2017 at 10:13 AM ^

There is no such things as gimme sacks. Recievers get left wide open, DBs get pop up interceptions and lets not talk about fumbles. If you are going to cherry pick level of diffculty, make sure to do I it for everybody in the league 

But for the sake of argument lets say he had 4.5 sacks. 

Joey Bosa played in 12 games
(This means that he won defensive rookie of the year while having NO preseason team development and missing 4 games)


This scout is nit-picking a player that he was wrong about. IMO

Michigan4Life

May 26th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^

say the same for every DE. Most of their sacks were due to scheme and coverage. Of course, some will have issue with elite athletes who tends to be the best OT in the league or vets. I am willing to bet that every DE will have more than half of sack total were gifted.

canzior

May 26th, 2017 at 12:40 PM ^

but there is a difference in beating the man across from you to get a sack, and getting to the qb after he holds the ball for 5 seconds. As much of a team sport as it is, there is still a high importance placed on beating the guy in front of you one on one. Also noted in the video, which I'm thinking maybe you didn't watch(?)...is that every DE does get gifted sacks, but not 60% of their production, which is the basis of his concern.  (Also not one that he alone shares)

WestQuad

May 26th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^

I've disliked Bosa since he took a recruiting trip to Michigan just to troll us and IIRC was a dick to the other recruits.  That said,  he's a good, maybe great, player.  Tom Brady isn't an elite athlete and he's turned out fairly well.  A coachable guy is better than the elite athlete because he can overcome adversity and that elite athleticism fades quickly when you get hurt or old.  I'm sure there's some Jerry Rice story that would fit here.   Damn you for making me defend Bosa.