OT - 6/15 Euro Open Thread

Submitted by bacon1431 on June 15th, 2021 at 12:01 PM

No Copa America today. Potentially the most exciting group in action at the Euros today. 

12pm - Hungary v Portugal - ESPN

3pm - France v Germany - ESPN

Ronaldo becomes the all time leading scorer for the Euros with a goal today. Can't stand the guy, but he's obviously very good. 

kjhager444

June 15th, 2021 at 12:06 PM ^

It's truly unfortunate that Hungary's reward for that exciting playoff over Iceland (I thought this year's tourney was their first major tourney since the 70's but confirmed they did qualify in 2016) is to be in one of the stronger groups I've seen in a tournament format.  Getting anywhere near the round of 16 would have to be a success- but they did tie eventual champ Portugal 3-3 in '16 so who knows what'll happen.

 

Also curious to see what Germany team shows up.

L'Carpetron Do…

June 15th, 2021 at 1:53 PM ^

I don't know if I've ever seen a weaker 3-0 win. Portugal looked like ass for most of the game and the Hungarians outplayed them for most of the second half.  Then they get the garbage goal off a deflection, the weak penalty and then a final goal when Ronaldo looked very offsides and it ends up 3-0.  Boo Portugal. Booooooo.

Needs

June 15th, 2021 at 2:24 PM ^

Really, the worst game of the tournament so far. Portugal looked totally out of ideas until that deflected goal and Hungary wasn't really willing to go for it on the break.

(There was a 3v3 break in the first half for Hungary where no attacker ever entered the penalty area and they proceeded to recycle the ball back to their central defense where they kicked it out of bounds. At least Sweden understood how to pull off a smash and grab win even if their finishing failed them).

L'Carpetron Do…

June 15th, 2021 at 4:01 PM ^

Oh man!  They did that a few times!  One time they could've gone on a semi-break after a save and the midfielder was facing his own goal, not knowing he had probably about 15 yds of space behind him, and he passed right back to the guy who cleared it out to him. I was like 'What the hell? Turn around and RUN!'  Hungary had no attacking ability or desire, like whatsoever.

I kept thinking of the Spain-Sweden game as well and was hoping Hungary would spring a 1-0 upset.  But Spain is the real epitome of "CENTER HOLDS IT" soccer. I hope both of those teams get knocked out.  

Zoltanrules

June 15th, 2021 at 2:33 PM ^

Portugal was very predictable in their offense. A brutal group draw for Hungary who played hard in front a large home crowd, and were a bit unlucky, and now get France and Germany. 

jmblue

June 15th, 2021 at 5:05 PM ^

France-Germany matches always offer a good spectacle and that was no exception.  France often starts slow in tournaments but they were terrific, strong across the board today.

Germany didn’t finish well but I thought they looked solid.  They didn’t look like the mess they’ve been recently.   I could see the two teams having a rematch in the knockout stages.

Frank Chuck

June 15th, 2021 at 6:26 PM ^

This French team made a talented German team look pedestrian which speaks to how much talent and technical ability is on this decorated French National team.

Let me put it this way: Karim Benzema is an incredibly talented, world class player. On the USMNT and in our entire history, he would be head and shoulders above anyone else by a damn country mile.

Because of his bullshit and ensuing legal troubles, the 2018 French National team casually left him off the team and didn't miss a beat in route to winning the World Cup.

This French team has a chance to be dynastic because of how talented, how stacked (depth), and how young many of its players are.

If not for a few offsides, France wins this comfortably 3-0. France plays a lot like old Italian teams - strong defense paired with lethal counter attacks (which is probably partially because of the time Didier Deschamps spent in the Serie A with Juventus).

As someone who admires Les Bleus, I wish they would put a bit more emphasis on possession. I quite like how Spain plays - heavy possession through quick passing and lots of interchanging player movement with some pressing.

bacon1431

June 15th, 2021 at 7:16 PM ^

I think the key to France is Mbappe, Pogba and Kante. All three of those players have insane range when defending. It always feels like France is putting so much pressure on the opponent when the opponent is in possession. But they don’t play a pressing style. I don’t think any manager could screw up too badly with those three. 

BJNavarre

June 15th, 2021 at 6:56 PM ^

A few comments on France/Germany: really poor announcing performance by Twellman. He's normally ok, but was just terrible. Especially on the Mbappe offside call. "His knee was just offside" Twellman said about 5 times when Mbappe's entire body was clearly offside on replay, except maybe his trailing heal. He also had a bunch of weird comments like "what a play by X, don't you think". Just kinda awkward and a bit forced.

Also, Pavard getting knocked out...how bad is the French medical team? How the F can you leave that guy in? 

France is head and shoulders over everyone in the world. Mbappe, Kante, Benzema are all top 5 at their positions, probably conservatively. Not to say they they're going to walk to a Euro and WC title, but no one has the top shelf talent and depth that they have.