January 1st, 2020 at 4:49 PM ^
Stinks. Inexplicably mediocre in every way.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:13 PM ^
Agree. Harbaugh has numbed me. Zero results. We get our 8 to 10 wins.
No upsets. No meaningful trajectory wins.
But I feel free and liberated and ready to spend more $. Its a beautiful world and I embrace this because its not getting any better. I fully accept our situation because no one is better than Jimmy for Michigan. Sad but true.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:25 PM ^
Why because Jim played at Michigan? there are plenty of coaches out there that could win 9 games with unlimited resources and 3 body bags each year. Many coaches do it without nearly the same amount of resources.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:38 PM ^
I’d take PJ Fleck and Matt Rhule over Harbaugh right now.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:38 PM ^
RR and Hoke destroyed UM football by traumatizing fans to the point they'll take mediocrity
January 1st, 2020 at 5:46 PM ^
Spot on take
January 1st, 2020 at 6:42 PM ^
Michigan’s win totals were the same under Carr and Bo. The lack of Big Ten titles and wins against OSU is the difference in terms of a historical nature. If you don’t have a great college QB in today’s college football it’s almost impossible to win titles. The sad part is I don’t think McCaffery or Milton are on that level either. Hope I’m wrong though.
January 1st, 2020 at 7:25 PM ^
They also played fewer games per year under Bo and Carr. I believe the schedule expanded to 12 games in 2006.
January 2nd, 2020 at 1:30 AM ^
Yeah, the dummies who compare win totals between eras always forget this. Not to mention, in most of those years we had multiple tough non-conference games, instead of just one as we do in modern times.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:49 PM ^
QB play was terrible. With a decent Qb Michigan wins by 14.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^
Hope they start Milton next fall. looks like he has got a decent passing arm.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^
lol. based on what?!
January 1st, 2020 at 7:57 PM ^
Big muscles and being... “athletic.”
Our QB coaching wasn’t able to turn a good qb like Shea into an accurate passer, yet people think it’s going to turn a total project like Milton into a legit D1 QB. It’s insanity.
January 1st, 2020 at 8:47 PM ^
Shea threw for roughly 66% completion last year if I remember right and he also was the highest rated passer throwing deep balls in the big ten last year.
Whatever his injury did this year to him it did it all. He was never the same with his accuracy on deep passes.
He must have missed for or 5 passes that could have gone for 50 yards or tds today
January 1st, 2020 at 9:18 PM ^
Not sure if Shea passed Harbaugh as #7 or #6 on Michigan’s all time passing yards list. Either way, he doesn’t suck. Three OC’s in three years didn’t help. I’m glad he came to Michigan - we might not have as many wins without him.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:39 PM ^
I think it's DMC. Milton's accuracy is scattershot and he struggles reading coverage. What's the use of having a cannon if he can't be accurate and being able to read coverage without throwing directly to the defender?
January 1st, 2020 at 6:05 PM ^
"Having a cannon for an arm and throwing it as hard as you can every attempt you can will make you a great QB."
Shane Morris
January 1st, 2020 at 6:18 PM ^
Joe will be the starter at some point next season, because Dylan is made of glass.
I think Dylan would have finished the season as the starter if he didn't get killed in Madison.
January 1st, 2020 at 10:37 PM ^
Joe Milton couldn't complete 50% of his passes in any season of his high school career. Good luck.
January 2nd, 2020 at 4:30 AM ^
Hoping someone is available in portal. Coaches have no trust in Dylan or Milton.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^
Swap QBs and we destroy them.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:25 PM ^
This. Great post.
Alabama’s backup QB outplayed Michigan’s senior starter.
But blame the offensive coaching.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^
Every Bama QB plays well. UM has yet to have a good QB under JH. The offensive coaching was why Mac played well and Shea played poorly.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:41 PM ^
Very noticeable divide between those on this board who know what the hell they're talking about and those who have no real deep, working knowledge of football.
Want to figure out who's who? Take a good look at who can go deeper than blaming "coaching."
Stupid UM coaches telling Patterson to overthrow open receivers downfield. They should have coached him to throw on the money like Alabama's coaches do.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:53 PM ^
You really don't think UM has anyone on the roster with the same talent level as Mac Jones? Give me a break.
Clearly, they didn't tell him to overthrow deep balls, but they allowed him to continue playing despite missing all those throws. Saban pulled a Heisman finalist to put a freshman in during the national championship, (and they won because of it). Something JH wouldn't dream of even considering.
If Mac Jones was on UM, he would have been sitting behind Shea. JH can't evaluate modern talent and he doesn't know how to use it either.
But, yes, it is all talent. Maybe someday UM will be l;ucky enough to have someone as dominant as Tanner Morgan.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:30 PM ^
Have to hit some of those deep balls. Even in a down year, it's gonna be tough trying to sustain 10-12 play drives against a Bama defense.
January 2nd, 2020 at 1:53 AM ^
If you put Trevor Lawrence on our team, we would have a good shot at the national championship. At the end of the day, it comes down to QB play. All four teams in the playoff have elite QB's. And it works that way most years. Harbaugh simply has to develop his guys better at this position. I have always like Shea alot -- moxie and all -- but his poor play sunk our team. Looking forward to Dylan or Joe next year. One of them will be the first QB Harbaugh has recruited to start the season for him.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:49 PM ^
Once Alabama discovered that Shea couldn't throw accurately past ten yards, there was nothing Gattis and Harbaugh could do to keep the run game afloat. It was exactly the same thing that happened vs. OSU.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
Half true.
They could have pulled Shea.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:59 PM ^
Sorry, disagree. It’s on the coaches. They have to know the limitations of their players and design a plan to play to their strengths.
Harbaugh and Gattis did this very effectively in the first half with a balanced ground game which allowed Shea opportunities to hit open receivers for good gains. Then, for no reason whatsoever, they totally abandoned it in the second half and told Shea to go out there and lead us to victory by slinging it around like Drew Brees. Which, of course, is not a part of his skill set. Once Bama realized that they didn’t have to worry about the run, UM was toast.
Shea may have crashed the car, but it was JH and JG fault for tossing him the keys and telling him to drive as fast as he wanted to in the second half.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:22 PM ^
Minus a couple of Shea scrambles, they ran the ball 12 times for 33 yards in the second half. That's less than 3 yards a carry.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:34 PM ^
The key stat there is “12 times”
Kind if hard to get a rhythm going with that number of carries.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:39 PM ^
That's bullshit. They didn't need to 'get a rhythm going' with their first 12 carries. The running game was ineffective in the second half, just like the rest of the offense.
January 1st, 2020 at 7:22 PM ^
The fuck it doesn’t matter.
Teams make half time adjustments and you have to keep trying different things to see what will and won’t work.
When you basically abandon the run after the first series in the second half, it’s pretty difficult to figure out what adjustment you can make.
January 1st, 2020 at 7:26 PM ^
They didn't abandon the run they averaged less than 3 yards a carry on 12 runs. The only thing more running would have done is killed the clock sooner.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:50 PM ^
Shea Patterson was not good... starting to think we will never have a great QB under Harbaugh. I think we need to get rid of McDaniels, even if we lose JJ McCarthy.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:36 PM ^
We need to get rid of the QB Coach whose been here for a year... because Harbaugh hasn’t had a good qb since he’s been here...
January 1st, 2020 at 6:17 PM ^
JJ McCarthy is probably Michigan's best chance to turn things around. Michigan needs him to be the Andrew Luck/Deshaun Watson of the Harbaugh era.
January 1st, 2020 at 8:15 PM ^
Shea was supposed to be Michigan's Cam Newton.
January 1st, 2020 at 11:39 PM ^
Like Brandon Peters and Shane Morris before him. We keep optimistically waiting for our savior to arrive.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
Some good ideas early, but hard to win a football game settling for field goals and going 0-8 on deep balls.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
Shea has been consistently just a bit above average.
Gattis...WTF on that hire. Revamping the offense yet again and giving full control to a wide receivers coach? I guess maybe it went better than that would predict, but it was an avoidable wobbly, no-identity mess.
Harbaugh seems to have lost his fire and needs to get it re-lit.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
Shea is average at best. Second half adjustments and play calling was not great, dropped passes. Overall this looked like a team that was on vacation with a football game as one of the activities.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
Shea's inaccuracy was our collapse in the second half. Not sure how else you can explain 0 points in the second half. Stupid INT thrown on the first play from scrimmage when we needed a score. Pass pro was generally good too. Same script, different big game as an underdog.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:54 PM ^
Maybe Saban told his players they wouldn't get paid for the game and would have to do their own work for their online classes if they didn't step it up in the 2nd half.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:08 PM ^
Well once Alabama realized that we’d totally abandoned what had been an effective running game and told Shea to go out there and win it with his arm in the second half, and they were able to drop back in coverage as a result. It wasn’t hard to predict that Shea’s accuracy was going to go downhill in a hurry.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:54 PM ^
McElroy made a comment about UM "abandoning" the run in the 2nd half and you halfwits are running with it.
UM's 3rd quarter plays:
1st 10: Run by Ronnie Bell on the swing pass
2nd 1: Incomplete pass
3rd 6 after false start: Pass to Jackson for 8
1st 10: Inc to DPJ
2nd 10: Haskins for 1 yd
3rd 9: Sack
*Michigan's abandoned the run!
1st 10: Charbonnet for 6
2nd 4: Jackson for -1
3rd 5: Pass to Bell for 6
1st 10: Inc pass to Bell
2nd 10: Charbonnet for 2
3rd 8: Inc to Bell
3 runs, 3 passes
1st 10: Haskins for 5
2nd 5: Haskins for 2
3rd 3: Complete to Haskins for 19
1st 10: Patterson run for 8
2nd 2: Charbonnet for 3
1st 10: False start
1st 15: Inc pass
1st 20: Complete to Bell for 17
3rd 3: Pass to Collins for 12
End 3rd quarter
1st 10: Haskins for 2
2nd 8: Patterson run for 7
3rd 1: Haskins for 1
1st 10: Sack
2nd 23: Inc
3rd 23: Complete to Jackson for 2
Alabama scored on next possession to go up 28-16
1st 10: Haskins for 4
2nd 6: Pass to Collins for 11
1st 10: Inc pass
2nd 10: Haskins for -1
3rd 11: Inc.
McElroy made an off the cuff observation and you effing imbeciles are running with it without having any clue what you're talking about.
What an effing stupid fan base.
With anything in this world you have people who know and people who don't. The problem here is the people who don't don't realize they don't and instead of trying to learn from those of us who do, you gang up on and shout down those who know because you're too effing stupid to know the difference.
January 1st, 2020 at 10:32 PM ^
Thanks for stating this. They ran the ball enough but it gets harder to run when the safeties is in since we can't throw anything over 10 yds
January 1st, 2020 at 11:00 PM ^
1st 15: Inc pass
1st 20: Complete to Bell for 17
3rd 3: Pass to Collins for 12
We're the nitwits but you have a series that didn't have a 2nd down? Pot meet kettle.
January 1st, 2020 at 11:02 PM ^
The board has been bad for several years, exactly how you’ve stated.