Michigan remains at #2 in Coaches and AP Polls

Submitted by FB Dive on September 5th, 2023 at 2:25 PM

AP Poll

#2 Michigan

#5 Ohio State (-2)

#7 Penn State

#19 Wisconsin

Coaches Poll

#2 Michigan

#4 Ohio State

#7 Penn State

#19 Wisconsin (+2)

goblu330

September 5th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^

Colorado ranked #22.  Personally, I want to see the Nebraska game first.  I know Nebraska is not very good but their defense looked stingy and they were hitting.  I'm interested to see how Colorado looks against more physical play.

Perkis-Size Me

September 5th, 2023 at 3:04 PM ^

Nebraska may prove to have a better defense overall, but the issue they have (among many, many others) is that their offense doesn't look good at all, so its going to leave a very tired defense out on the field quite a lot. Even if they get a few stops to start the game, I expect that dam to break open at some point in the second half when Nebraska's defense is just gassed and can't keep up anymore. 

Minus Colorado's performance being a complete fluke last week, or minus TCU's defense being GERG-level bad, I just don't see how Nebraska keeps up. 

We are going to learn a LOT about Colorado between September 23rd - 30th. They have Oregon on the road at USC at home, back to back. That week-long stretch could see Colorado either plummet back to Earth hard, or if they win both or one of those games, get launched into the stratosphere. 

Amazinblu

September 5th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^

It must be because it was only a 21 point loss to a conference opponent - on the road.  One could say - Clemson held Duke to 28 points.  When was the last time a Duke hoops team was held to 28 points at home?

Oh, my mistake - they played football - and, many who cast votes don’t follow the game as closely as they should… obviously…

Vasav

September 5th, 2023 at 2:46 PM ^

I'm happy with the way we looked and happy that OSU didn't look stellar. But I also think they played a big ten team, and we played an American team, and Penn St played a Big 12 team and based on conference strength you can't really say anybody looked better than others. OSU's QB is young, made some good throws and some bad decisions - I'm still worried about them.

The West remains a confusing lump of enigma to me, as it has since like 2020 when Wisconsin stopped dominating.

Clemson has problems - even if Duke is surprising good, yes Clemson should have had like 9 more points but they still got clobbered. Nobody knows how good TCU is, but undoubtedly Colorado is a functional program, which is more than can be said of last year's squad. I like Prime but would rather we not reward cutting half your roster. But that's what it is these days, I guess.

BoFlex

September 5th, 2023 at 7:49 PM ^

I wonder how accurate these preseason weighted/advanced rating system are now in the transfer portal era.

Indiana for instance brought in almost ~30 transfers this off-season, which is essentially a whole new 2-deep roster.

Do these preseason ratings factor that in or are they heavily weighted to the performance of the season prior? Colorado was probably extremely hard to a preseason rating.

SagNasty

September 5th, 2023 at 3:40 PM ^

I will be interested to see how Indiana, WVU and East Carolina play the rest of the season. Not sure which of those three teams is the best team? 
 

I’m not sold on Colorado. I didn’t have the chance to see the game but I heard tcu had a couple turnovers in the red zone? Also, TCU lost their “stars” from last season. 

NittanyFan

September 5th, 2023 at 4:15 PM ^

Last year: IU was #70 (FEI ratings), WVU #66, ECU #62.

But NEXT week's question is the much more interesting one!  Which of Youngstown State, Delaware and UNLV is the best* team?

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* University Presidents, color schemes, helmet design and turnover slot machines all not a part of this conversation.

NittanyFan

September 5th, 2023 at 10:11 PM ^

FWIW, only UNLV's basketball team is nicknamed the "Running Rebels."  Their baseball team is nicknamed the "Hustling Rebels."  Football is just the Rebels.

On a side note, UNLV football is remarkable for how simply unremarkable they have been over the years.  They've been to TWO Bowl games this century.  That's it!  Nevada up the street has been to 14!

tybert

September 5th, 2023 at 5:56 PM ^

For the most part, we have the usual combo of:

1. Elite teams from last year get the benefit as long as they win solidly vs. an overmatched team in Week 1

2. Former Elite teams (Clemson, etc.) get punished but are given a lifeline and stay in the top 25, as long as the loss is to an upstart team like Duke. Had we played Hawaii (a future 12-0 team) instead of App State in 2007 opener, like we should have had not Bill Martin tried to go "easy" on Lloyd's rebuilding defense, we would have fallen to the teens if we lost to the Rainbows at home - instead we can completely flushed into the Portajohn.

3. Colorado deserves the ranking. They looked really good at QB and WR/DB. 

4. As for Iowa, the D alone is formidable. And of course, punting is winning! They need to win over a team (Iowa State) that treats the Hawks like Sparty treats us - as their Super Bowl. I still think if Cade can stay healthy and manage games, they can win 9 or 10 with that schedule. 

bronxblue

September 5th, 2023 at 9:45 PM ^

About what I expected.  FSU looked good and deserves to be #4.  I'm not totally sold that CU is a top-25 team because they beat what looks like a 7-ish win TCU team in a game where they threw for 500+ yards and still barely held on.  But hey, it's the first week.

CLord

September 6th, 2023 at 2:15 PM ^

Deservedly so.  Teams are going to stack the box all year on us.  Makes sense.  While JJ is playing like a Heisman finalist, his receivers are not on the level of Blake and Donovan at their respective positions, not to mention the variance and turn over propensity associated with pass plays/picks.

Sadly Blake and Donovan won't have the numbers they had last year, but JJ is going to light it up.  If we can keep turn overs down this year, I like our chances.