Michigan Basketball

Submitted by gater on
I have to give Beilein a lot of credit, our basketball team actually looks like a basketball team. I know it's only Michigan Tech and Northeastern, but they have looked good. I haven't been this excited for a Michigan basketball season since I was a little kid with Fisher leading them.

gpsimms not to…

November 12th, 2008 at 10:51 PM ^

two things 1) cronin is likely redshirting. he looks to be a good prospect, but is still hobbled by his hip. also, a big like that normally redshirts...the only reason he might play is because we are so thin at the 5. 2) man. manny is so fresh, man. 2 assists short of the 2nd triple double in the HISTORY of UMhoops. (only gary grant, i think they said)

gmbblue

November 12th, 2008 at 10:53 PM ^

That we beat Radcliff and Brown just as bad last year to start, maybe worse. This team is definitely better, and those two freshmen will really help (despite not being from the PSL). Michigan will struggle when the teams they play have guards that will push them away from the hoop to run the offense, they will be better but UCLA is a horrid match up for them.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 12th, 2008 at 11:03 PM ^

Cronin got some garbage time against MTech. We could sure use him too, because that first half, we got DESTROYED on the glass. Just a piss-poor rebounding effort for 20 minutes. It got better in the second half, and an obvious corresponding improvement in the score. Manny Harris is a fricking hoss. I'm not gonna get too much M basketball here in RI, but I'll be sure to watch what I can. It's worth it to watch Harris play.

Polisci

November 13th, 2008 at 12:02 AM ^

Team looked great tonight. I'm really excited! The free throw shooting was amazing! Northeastern is considered by many of the gurus to be a bracket buster type team in March (see Katz and Gottlieb). They are a solid experienced team. They are not the same as Radcliff and Brown from last year. This is a legit win.

MaizeNBlueJ

November 13th, 2008 at 3:06 AM ^

You are correct. They returned (almost) everyone from a team that finished 6th in the same conference that George Mason is in. They actually blew them out. The rebounding has to be a concern though, because there's no way we can give up 20 rebounds to UCLA (or Duke, which we play later on in the year if we don't face them in the championship) and come away with the win. The 1-3-1 is a good change of pace that we seem to be running better than last year and gave our first two foes fits, but the players seem to have a very hard time rebounding out of it. 2nd chance points will kill us against UCLA unless we get it worked out.

anUMal

November 13th, 2008 at 9:51 AM ^

We get Laval Lucas-Perry starting in January. He should be at least another solid contributor. Won't help us for UCLA or Duke, though (who is also on our schedule already so we could end up playing them twice in like three weeks--we'd have to get past UCLA first, though).

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 13th, 2008 at 10:27 AM ^

Yeah, Northeastern is in a 2 or 3 bid league, so they're more legit than Brown for sure. The CAA is no joke. But they're still the sort of team that a good Big Ten team shouldn't have any trouble with. The first half of the game would tell me we'll struggle in the Big Ten. The second half was much more encouraging.

J. Lichty

November 13th, 2008 at 10:45 AM ^

Tech and NE. We lost to Harvard last year. Wait, we lost to Harvard coached by Tommy Amaker last year. These are wins we would not have had last year, or at least in this fashion. Good job so far - and with the B10 network we will actually be able to see some games.

gmbblue

November 13th, 2008 at 11:16 AM ^

Just pointing out we looked good last year to start. This team is much farther along because they now have some guys who can shoot, and Manny has improved shooting as well. I tell you what the best thing is though, remember the days with Amaker and we would dribble for 30 seconds and then chuck up a three point shot, how many times does that happen with Beilein, its so rare its hard to remember. 14 turnovers with Beilein and thats a bad night, with Amaker a great night. The man can flat out coach offense, hears to hoping that RR shows the same improvement.

Serenity Now

November 15th, 2008 at 9:57 AM ^

But still, unless he puts on a few pounds of muscles without losing a step and keeps performing the way he has once they play better competition, jumping to the NBA would be suicide. Let's not jump the gun, he still has plenty to work on. His jump shot is inconsistent, especially under pressure. He turns the ball over too much. Though he did better the second game, he more often than not drives wildly to the basket with his head down. His finishing needs more work (he will miss a driving layup once a game at least). He's very active (which is good), but often gets wild and out of position, which either leads to defensive breakdowns or stupid fouls (which is not so good). He needs to get stronger, especially if he's going to play small forward this year (taking a pounding against the UCLAs and MSUs of this world should give us an idea). In short, he's too turnover prone to be a 1 in the NBA, doesn't shoot from the outside consistently enough to be a 2, and while his athleticism is NBA-like he doesn't have the strength to be a 3. I'm no basketball expert, but we'll see by the end of the year if he's improved in those areas, because scouts will definitely get on his case. I did predict last year on this very site that he'd be a star and NBA-bound. I didn't see it happening this year....

Serenity Now

November 15th, 2008 at 10:45 PM ^

If Harris is as dominant as Durant was, and is worthy of being discussed as the first overall pick in the draft, then of course he shouldn't pass it up. But I don't see it happening this year, people are jumping the gun way too early on him. Don't forget, Durant was a an absolute freak, a truly special player. A 6'10" forward with great athleticism and a 7"3-4 wingspan is pretty special. If Harris even approaches this type of highlight video this year, then yeah he should jump, but I really don't see it this year... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1kLSIZiql5o

Chrisgocomment

November 15th, 2008 at 11:15 PM ^

he is a bigger stretch....no doubt. I just think his weight isn't going to hold him back on draft day, provided he performs as consistently this year as he has in the first two games. Didn't Jamal Crawford leave after only 2 years? He was 6-6 and 190. Manny is 6-5 and 185. Pretty close. So really, is weight an issue? Not really.

Serenity Now

November 15th, 2008 at 11:52 PM ^

From memory, Crawford had a diferent game. He was more of a backcourt player, he could run the point and generate shots. Harris drives to the basket a whole lot and is a lot more active on defense and inside. Harris is a much better player than Crawford was, but I think they're different styles. Crawford's size was an actual strength since he played guard. Again, I'm not putting him down. I said here last year that he'd be a star. But after seeing how banged up he was at the end of last year, I stand by my comment. Unless he gets more consistent with his jump shot and convinces pros that he can be a 2, I don't see him going up high in the draft as a small forward.

jmblue

November 15th, 2008 at 8:15 PM ^

We've got a nice class coming in for 2010. Down the road, I don't think we'll have to be as dependent on one player as we currently are on Manny.