Louis Bullock returns to Crisler Center

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on

At least he's making the effort to come back even after the ban. 

Interesting. Seems he's been welcomed back with open arms by the coaches at least.

 

17yrs later! Go Blue! pic.twitter.com/rdIRLtiZW9

— Louis Bullock (@sweetlou_22) February 13, 2016

 

Memory lane! pic.twitter.com/YA6Hwt4L0F

— Louis Bullock (@sweetlou_22) February 13, 2016
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claire

February 14th, 2016 at 8:16 AM ^

The reality is/was that almost all of these kids took 'stuff' and they knew it wasn't right. The people extending the offers continue to be the real problem

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BlueMk1690

February 14th, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^

if you accept a contract on certain terms and then violate these terms while knowing that there could be significant negative consequences to your partners in this contract.

It doesn't surprise me though that this facet of ethical conduct would be lost on many people given how as a society we have come to embrace being incredibly self-serving and self-centered.

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Wolverheel

February 14th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^

Dude. You completely ignored his legitimate points and responded with an ad hominem. That's like stuff they teach not to do in debate 101. He broke the rules of a contract that he signed, therefor he deserved to be punished. It's not a difficult concept. The issue is people here are refusing to forgive him for something that happened when he was 18.

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DetroitBlue

February 14th, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^

A contract whereby a 17 year old signs away all rights to profit from his skills or his likeness while the NCAA, school, coaches, administrators and everyone else gets rich off his sweat isn't an ethical arrangement. To me, breaking a contract that's bullshit to begin with doesn't mean that a kid lacks morals.
And I might've responded to his actual argument if he didn't go off on a tired and lazy 'sad state of society' rant at the end



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BlueMk1690

February 14th, 2016 at 2:33 PM ^

and if he felt that way about the contract he was about to sign, the ethical thing is to simply not sign it. Most likely though he was OK with the contract at the time he signed it because it offered him some significant advantages he otherwise wouldn't have had. He agreed to take in all these advantages but then did not comply with the conditions attached.

When I was in college I had to agree only to work for a maximum of 20 hours per week or else my student status would have lapsed. I followed those rules even though I could have used the money for sure.

 

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DetroitBlue

February 14th, 2016 at 7:45 PM ^

He might not have been forced to in the gun to his head sense, but what are his other options to develop as a basketball player? It's not like he had direct to NBA from high school talent, so he had to go to college.
I mean, I get why people are pissed at the kids who took money, but the reason we stayed down so long as a program was a lot more about the coaching hires we made and really bad facilities, than the scholarship losses and NCAA sanctions.



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ElBictors

February 14th, 2016 at 8:59 AM ^

Paying athletes vs "paying athletes" and posters who weren't born yet during the Fab5 era waxing philosophic on who should be blamed for what. My brother lived next to Bullock & Traylor in WQ Fresh year and to this day our Mom will tell you Tractor was (rip) the biggest human being shed ever met.

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AZBlue

February 14th, 2016 at 9:49 AM ^

To add....when I was at M in the late 80s It was commonly known/assumed that the BBall players were getting $$ during Frieder's tenure - I actually even saw a few loose bills that had "accidentally" fallen in with the food bag when the catering company mixed up some of the delivery between our fraternity and the off-site players.

It wasn't right, but it wasn't a ton of $$ (at least back then as they weren't living any better than most of us), and I know it was in NO WAY uncommon at most/all NCAA basketball programs back then.

I am not justifying or rationalizing the behavior --- but for the Holier-than-thou types who would see him banned for life --- you probably should add just about every player (at least) back to Antoine Joubert and for sure most/all the '89 NC team to your banned list.

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AZBlue

February 14th, 2016 at 12:13 PM ^

Not saying that. What I am saying is those on this thread who have the (our school is) holier than thou attitude a want to banish the kid need to realize that these were not isolated incidents. If the kid is contrite and wants to come back into the family I say this is OK after enough time.

The issue with the "few loose bills" is that it led to the culture that allowed things to get to the Bullock and Webber stage. At least with the new stipends, athletes that don't come from means will have some spending money while in school and MAYBE it will keep this from happening at schools like M that want to prevent it.

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Raoul

February 14th, 2016 at 2:03 PM ^

He's not contrite. When asked about it last year, all he could say was the lame "Mistakes were made." Also used the "we were young" cop out. I don't care how young he was: he was specifically told to stay away from Ed Martin and then proceeded to take $71,000 from him even though he knew doing so had a great chance of harming the Michigan basketball program.

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treetown

February 14th, 2016 at 10:26 AM ^

He is trying and the coaches/admin are willing to try to create a bridge.

People make mistakes - some are harder (much harder) to forgive. Others get easier with the passage of time.

Others are just full of regret. Time and history also has a way of revealing a lot of interesting things. (see the latest issue of Sports Illustrated re UNC scandal and MBB). 

 

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BlueMk1690

February 14th, 2016 at 10:48 AM ^

then what excuses does Beilein have not to clean up in recruiting? I give him a pass because I assume he's clean. If he isn't as opposed to paying guys as I thought then you gotta be better at it.

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michelin

February 14th, 2016 at 12:00 PM ^

ie in favor of changing the rules to allow schools to pay them.

But that is a far cry from being OK with violating current rules.  

Paying them under the table is not ethical, especially for someone who heads the NCAA ethics committee (JB).

That said, I am happy that Bullock is back in the fold.  When he took money, he was a very young player and it was a long, long time ago.

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Wolverine Devotee

February 14th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^

As for my opinion on it, at least he's making a genuine effort to come back and be part of he was once was, again. 

Yesterday was the 100th anniversary celebration where teams were recognized throughout the game. There were many MBB alums there. 

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Webber's Pimp

February 14th, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^

Did LB ever publicly apologize? I cant believe some of the stuff Im reading on this thread. This guy took tens ofnthousands of dollars from Ed Martin. It wasnt just a pair of sneakers and a few meals here and there. As far as Im concerned he can stay away. He disgraced himself and the program. Hey played a starting role in the 20 years of suffering the university, the program and its fan base had to endure.

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