Help: Who leads in Michigans sack record?
February 7th, 2009 at 4:32 PM ^
i know David Bowens is up their as far as single season record. career record is probably around 30-ish.
February 7th, 2009 at 4:41 PM ^
Going back from 1949
#1 James Hall with 26.5 sacks 96-99
#2 Lamarr Woodley with 24 03-06
#3 Brandom Graham with 19 still playing
#4 Tim Jamison with 18
#5 Shawn Crable with 17.5
#6 Victor Hobson 14.5
Lamarr has single season record with 12 sacks in 2006.
AGain stats dating back to '49
February 7th, 2009 at 5:04 PM ^
What's your source? I'm pretty sure that Mark Messner was announced during one of last season's games as Michigan's all-time sack leader with 36 or something like that.
I could be wrong though.
February 7th, 2009 at 5:06 PM ^
WTF!? HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME!
psyche...my source is mgoblue.com...got to the history link under football and they have a query there that allows you to look this up.
http://stats.ath.umich.edu/football/footstart.php
February 7th, 2009 at 5:09 PM ^
Ah. Thanks. Not for nothing though, Messner's absence from the list made me curious, so I looked up him individually, and his stats show that he had no sacks, so there's clearly something wrong with the page. Messner had many sacks. I have no idea how many.
February 7th, 2009 at 5:15 PM ^
You are right. Databases are as good as who enters in the data, thus GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT and looks like mgoblue is messed up.
Looking up Messner on Wikipedia says he has 36 sacks.
here's info on him
http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/fballam/aamessne.htm
February 7th, 2009 at 6:33 PM ^
Messner's the leader in tackles for loss. Or at least he was.
February 7th, 2009 at 5:46 PM ^
I know the NFL didn't keep track of that until 1982. The NFL ain't the NCAA, obviously, but the NCAA probably didn't keep track of QB sacks until the 70's or 80's either (supposedly the term "sack" was coined by Deacon Jones in the 60's).
February 7th, 2009 at 6:39 PM ^
The sack records go back to 1980.
The top guys in career sacks (as of 2005):
Messner: 36
Hall: 25
Hutchinson, Horn, Steele: 24
Robert Thompson: 19
The single season record as of 2005 was David Bowens with 12, so he and Lamarr are tied in that category now. Brandon would need a record-obliterating year to catch Messner in career sacks, but if he has a decent year he should be able to get into second place.
As of 2005, Messner was leader in season TFLs with 26 and career TFLs with 70.
February 7th, 2009 at 7:06 PM ^
http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/fballam/aamessne.htm
Yeah, he did have 36 sacks, and one hell of a pornstache
February 7th, 2009 at 7:06 PM ^
crable has this record now i think with like 29
February 7th, 2009 at 7:58 PM ^
I think B-Graham will end up breaking it. He only played in 11 games this season with 10 sacks. Shud be 13.