Get rid of the end around in football
I hope that Coach Rodriguez takes whatever plays he has in his playbook related at all to an end-around (or, as dumb announcers sometimes call it, the double reverse) and throws them in the trash (or the outbox).
I have watched about ten bowl games so far this year (and last, er), and the longest run I've seen on an endaround has been about 6 yards. Defenses are no longer fooled by the play. It's time to forget about it.
January 1st, 2009 at 4:35 PM ^
It was working well for Mizzou.
January 1st, 2009 at 4:40 PM ^
...are fans so stupid?
January 1st, 2009 at 4:40 PM ^
I like the play. It has to be used judiciously, though. It should be used against teams who overpursue and especially against undisciplined defensive ends. A disciplined defensive end is usually the player who disrupts an otherwise well executed end around/reverse.
January 1st, 2009 at 4:52 PM ^
don't talk for a while?
January 1st, 2009 at 4:59 PM ^
couldn't have put it any better myself
January 1st, 2009 at 4:59 PM ^
Huh?
January 1st, 2009 at 5:58 PM ^
We should get rid of all run plays up the middle, because every time she sees someone run up the middle theres just a huge pileup for no gain.
January 1st, 2009 at 6:05 PM ^
I totally agree. I think we should get rid of incomplete passes too. Those really don't help out our offensive production.
January 1st, 2009 at 6:43 PM ^
...I should have known better than an observation that I've made this year, which I hoped would elicit thoughtful argument and meaningful back and forth, has (aside from Magnus's comment) just brought forth stupid sarcasm.
I honestly believe the "end-around" is losing its utility as a functional offensive play. Way too many teams run it, and do it as a matter of course, rather than as a special trick play based on overzealous defenders. I see the rationale for running the play becoming less and less as we move forward.
January 1st, 2009 at 7:13 PM ^
I think the point that may be missed here is that the zone read forces the defensive ends to be more patient and hold contain. As stated by Magnus, its a play to take advantage of aggression by the backside end. With so many teams running a zone read type play, defensive ends may just be playing with more patience. The play shouldn't be scrapped, but just used sparingly.
January 1st, 2009 at 7:20 PM ^
of Percy Harvin. this was a terrible terrible post. get over it.
January 1st, 2009 at 7:09 PM ^
college defensive speed on the outside is improving, and even d tackles and ends run sub 5s regularly.... the ability to get outside is becoming a bit more difficult than it used to be, you cant just run student body right sweeps these days all the time you have to use the entire field.
January 1st, 2009 at 7:11 PM ^
I've scene it pick up 4-6 yards in bowl games so far. That's a pretty good average for a run play.
January 1st, 2009 at 7:28 PM ^
IIRC, it worked pretty well last year in the Cap1 game w/ Manningham. Perhaps we only used it once, but it was pretty useful at the time.
January 1st, 2009 at 8:50 PM ^
well IIRC we only used it once and it worked crazy well in a fluke sort of way. manningham got the end around to the left, nothing was there but he managed to get enough blocks to swing back around to the right side and turned it into like 30+ yards
January 1st, 2009 at 7:29 PM ^
I like the Lloyd Carr use of the end around (I hate the use of "double reverse" as terminology because its stupid and inaccurate). It was always like "holy shit, we have this in our play book?"
I specifically remember it being used most of the time to ridiculous surprise. (think Tight End screen to Carson "the Animal" Butler in the Capital One bowl last year)
January 1st, 2009 at 8:14 PM ^
The term "double reverse" isn't inaccurate if it's actually a double reverse.
January 1st, 2009 at 8:13 PM ^
I think the end around works better when the receiver is lined up closer to the ball, in some sort of bunch formation or in the slot. It seems like end arounds with a true split end take too long to develop. The ones that work are when that slot guy runs basically like a Wing-T jet sweep, at least from what I've seen.
January 2nd, 2009 at 12:04 AM ^
Anyone watch Oregon State? James Rodgers runs the jet sweep like a champion, but even without him they ran it well. It depends on your line, their mobility, and of course the defense.
I hope we use it. Like everyone said, it's a situational play but it can be effective. Odoms/Gallon could be used quite nicely. Or you can run the slot option, which most teams don't but i wish did.
January 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 AM ^
DO you want to ban that too?
January 2nd, 2009 at 12:37 AM ^
Depends. Is Katy Perry/Rachel Bilson/Lindy Booth the one giving me the reach around?
January 2nd, 2009 at 1:36 AM ^
If one of those 3 is giving you a reach around, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!
January 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 AM ^
Oddly, the definition I always knew is #7 on the Urban Dictionary:
when a man and a woman are having sex; the woman reaches around and stimulates his testicles or his penis
January 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 AM ^
I stand corrected then.
January 2nd, 2009 at 12:34 AM ^
Percy Harvin takes an end around - or a variation thereof - to the house once every couple games.
January 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 AM ^
I think Coach Rod should scrap any play that doesn't work every time.
I will never understand why more coaches don't just call "touchdown' on every play - shouldn't you want to score everytime? They always take like 10 plays to get there. So stupid.
January 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 AM ^
China Special works for me every time in NCAA 09... we should run it EVERY DOWN. And run the 4-4