A Few Things

Submitted by Chrisgocomment on

Just a few things.  Questions, comments, this and that:

  • The Juice was awesome yesterday.  I think it's just that simple.  He was flying all over the field breaking tackle after tackle.  Much to our dismay his accuracy is much improved from his hilariously awful Freshman year. 
  • Barwis or no Barwis I think our D got gased yesterday.  The amount of big plays they gave up, the stupid mistakes the offense made that put them in bad situations, and having to chase that G-D Juice all over the place took their toll.  Last week against Wisky they didn't have to chase the QB around, which helped them in the 4th.  Yesterday?  Not so much.  In the 4th quarter there was no hope, and the offense and special teams offered absolutely nothing to stop the bleeding by turning the ball over again and again.
  •  The damage that Juice did does not bode well for the OSU and Penn State games.  PLUS those are on the road.  Could get ugly in Happy Valley and in the snake pit.  However, teams with Water Buffalo types at QB are on notice from our D: MSU, Minnesota, Purdue, Northwestern and Toledo.  That puts them at 7-5.  Please?
  • I posted this as a comment earlier, but this is so mind-bendingly stoooopid I'll repeat it here for your entertainment.  The lady in the row behind me said this, and she was completely serious.  The score at the time?  17-14 Illinois:
    • "They need to start throwing the ball more, this is getting ridiculous.  I think they need to put Sheridan in, he's the better passer, I'm sorry but it's true."
  • Anyone else hear anything close to that stupid and annoying?  I'd love to hear it from you.
  • Those big plays were killers.  Michigan's offense just can't exchange TD's like that.  I believe in his preview Brian said they couldn't give up anymore than 3 big plays?  According to chitownblue they gave up like 7???!!!!!!  Holy Shit!
  • Ron Zook = AAAAAAAASSSSHOLE??  Why was Juice in the whole game?  Jesus H it was apparent with like 10 minutes to go in the 4th that it was over over over.  He almost paid for it too when Graham (I believe) leveled Juice toward the end of the game.  I'm not one to laugh over players getting injured, but ha ha bitches, serves you right.
  • What happened to "Duel Threet"?  It really seemed to me that the Illini were selling out on the handoff on those zone reads.  It seemed like Threet could have had another 58-yard keeper.  Perhaps that's what happened on the Shaw fumble?
  • The special team (we're special!) fumbles continue.  At this point we can probably consider the kickoff and punt return team to be = EPIC FAIL.  I've never seen so many fumbles on returns!!!  Has there ever, in the history of College Football, been a team this cursed at kick returns?  At this point if they were anywhere near as reliable as last years laughable unit it would be considered a success! 

StevieY19

October 5th, 2008 at 2:08 PM ^

There were many from the fine folks around me,  but the worst had to be after Odoms fumbled the kickoff return.  He gets hit, fumbles it right to the Illini and the guy behind me says "plain and simple, that's bad coaching.  That's all on the coaching."  I would have said something, but this idiot was beyond rehabilitation.

Marques Slocum…

October 5th, 2008 at 2:22 PM ^

saying Ron Zook is an asshole for leaving in his starters is kind of stupid IMO. The onus is on the defense to stop the offense. It is just that simple. It is not up to the coach to stop his own offense by taking them out. If the defense can't stop them then they deserve to get shelled. these kids like to succeed and have big stat lines, that is the whole point behind individual awards... You can't expect your kids to perform successfully when you take them out once they reach \a high level of performance.

Chrisgocomment

October 5th, 2008 at 2:34 PM ^

Really?  I mean, they went up by 25 points with 6 minutes to go!!  I think at that point you should sit the Juice.  But no.  Seems like overkill to me.  I stand by my comment.  If Lloyd's coaching and Michigan is up by 25 with 6 to go the backup is coming in.

However, I'm watching the game again, Juice got hurt on the play when they went up 38-20 with about 7 minutes left, so, laughing at that was uncalled for.  Sorry Juice.

Tim Waymen

October 5th, 2008 at 3:42 PM ^

Not only is it poor sportsmanship to leave in your starters, but it's also stupid because they can get hurt in a non-critical situation at the end of the game and the rest of the season is fucked.  The coaches who defend running up the score are usually assholes, Urban Meyer being one of them.  I don't think that Zook did anything particularly bad yesterday, since there is little you can do when your team recovers a fumble inside the 10 yard line.

"these kids like to succeed and have big stat lines, that is the whole point behind individual awards..."  Ever heard of padding stats?  Not only that, but football is a team sport.  You teach a kid to play his best for the team, not to focus on the Heisman.

I read somewhere that in 1997, Indiana coach Cam Cameron thanked Lloyd Carr for taking it easy on his team after Michigan beat the Hoosiers 37-0.  Lloyd is classy.  (For the record, I am not wild about RR running up the score in some cases, such as in 2001 when his team beat Rutgers 80-7.)

ShockFX

October 5th, 2008 at 6:40 PM ^

Cam Cameron played at Michigan IIRC.  He also was a coordinator under Bo and left when Les did after Moeller got the job.  Lloyd ran up the score on Joe Tiller whenever he could.  I have no problem running up the score because A) what's to say when the game is won?  and B) You take the chance with your starters getting hurt.  Karma's a bitch.

spartyNO

October 5th, 2008 at 7:42 PM ^

Hopefully we're good enough to blow Illinois out of the water next year.  45 points is the most allowed in the Big House since Florida State went to town on us in '91.  Sad to say, but nobody respects Michigan Stadium any more.  App State, Oregon, Utah, Ohio State, and now Illinois.  This is seriously getting out of hand.  We need to make people fear going to Michigan again. 

turbo cool

October 5th, 2008 at 6:56 PM ^

once we get sweet i hope that we run up the score vs everyone. i could care less if other teams, especially in the big 10 hate us. fuck them. besides, our 2nd and 3rd stringers will be balling as well.

hat

October 5th, 2008 at 8:01 PM ^

I agree that leaving your starters in well after a game has been decided is a questionable strategy from the standpoint that injuries can happen.  And I think that the second-stringers should be given a chance to play in these cases.  But I've always thought the griping about it being "poor sportsmanship" is silly.  Blame the defense for not being able to get a stop even when the offense is just going through the motions.

caup

October 5th, 2008 at 8:36 PM ^

played at Indiana University. He was the WR and QB coach under Bo. Everyone always overstates his ties to Michigan, which I find odd.

Chrisgocomment

October 5th, 2008 at 8:44 PM ^

I guess I'm on my own here.  It's a little like the booing thing, not everyone will agree on this.  I just think, if you up 25 points with 6 minutes to go it's safe to say you've won.  Bravo.  Why risk Juice blowing out his knee or something just to be a dick?