Fab Five on Mike and Mike
This morning on Mike & Mike, Greenberg compared Barry Bonds steroid use to the Ed Martin era in Michigan basketball. He went on to say use Michigan having to vacate their wins/final four appearances to strikiing Bonds accomplishments from the record books. I really don't have a problem with the analogy, it just irks me that 15 years have passed, and this is still how the MSM sees Michigan basketball. Discuss.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:19 AM ^
I'm just waiting for other schools to eventually suffer the same consequences.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:16 AM ^
Should have already!!!!!!
Bush, Mayo and others have been in this whole given money light. I find it funny that nothing has been done with them. The football program more than the basketball. It seemed like Bush was guilty as charged when his whole agent story came out.
Why hasn't USC been ripped of their games and titles when Bush played?
February 5th, 2009 at 8:52 PM ^
Agree wholeheartedly. He literally has been hiding behind Kim Kardashian's well...behind... it's a beauty at that.
It is unreal though, hopefully no one's forgotten and the truth will eventually come out.
February 5th, 2009 at 8:22 AM ^
I guess if he's saying, "Look at what Michigan went through, they had to erase all their records. What Bonds did is definitely equal and probably worse, and so they should follow the example set by Michigan and the NCAA and erase Bonds from the record books."
If he's saying, "Michigan's cheating provided the exact same advantage that Bonds' steroid use provided," then I disagree, obviously. . .
February 5th, 2009 at 10:30 AM ^
It is a shameful episode in our history ... not *as much* because of the actions of Ed Martin (though, shameful they were!) but *mostly* because of our administration's cowering and whimpering in the face of bad publicity, then resorting to medieval ethics of self-flagellation to atone for sins; forsaking their kin in the process! Same with giving Moeller the boot for one outburst. The expectation of men to fit a superhuman, mostly unattainable ideal and punish them with excessive (or eternal) torment for not doing so is a disease of the mind!
More practically, my problem with the analogy is that Bonds is one man, so his punishment reflecting his actions would be fine. But basketball is a team sport. Why punish the entire team for the crooked actions of one?
This all gets back to the self-hating, self-forsaking foundation of post-traditional Western ethics. Disgusts me, down to my core.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:07 PM ^
mr. nietzsche
lol
February 5th, 2009 at 1:27 PM ^
What has always pissed me off about this is the characterization of Martin as a "UM booster."
Ed Martin was an Ed Martin booster. He also "loaned" money to kids who went to other schools and some that didn't bother with school at all. Ed Martin wanted to buy "friendship" with players who were going to be stars. That does not constitute being a "UM booster."
February 5th, 2009 at 1:34 PM ^
Well, it does when the head coach of the basketball team is getting him tickets to games.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:18 PM ^
Are Garbage. I try to avoid them as much as a can. I miss WDFN.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:42 PM ^
Are the MOST ANNOYING sports reporters of ALL TIME. That show should have been canceled years ago..............THEY ARE TOOLS!