Ask Your Illinois Questions

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There's not much good Illinois content on the internet, so feel free to ask any questions you might have about the 2009 football team. I'm an Illini fan, so probably SOME SUGARCOAT, but I'm fairly objective and do a lot of similar stuff to what Brian does with UFR.

bouje

July 27th, 2009 at 11:05 AM ^

Is he still more of a running threat than a passing threat or has he really worked in the off-season on his passing game? What is the weakest part of the Ill squad? What are your realistic expectations for the season?

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 11:16 AM ^

Tough to say on Juice, since everything gets filtered through coachspeak/spring optimism. The offense, including Juice, looked great at an open scrimmage the team held near Chicago, then stunk at the official spring game. However, there were some mitigating circumstances there (winds of about 40MPH, plus the defense knew that the QBs weren't ever going to keep the ball on option reads). The problem isn't his working- he's always been a hard worker- it's because he was unbelievably raw in high school, and Chicago Public School athletes are trained and coached very poorly. Weakest part of the quad is the outside of the defense: DEs, outside linebackers, and CBs. The middle should be fairly strong- not great, but middle of the Big 10. Besides from doug Pilcher, who is a 5th year senior at DE, there's going to be a lot of very young players everywhere else. Given that these positions were weaknesses last year, I don't see a ton of grounds for optimism. The two outside linebacker positions in particular are worrisome. Realistically, I see 8-4 or 9-3. Vegas has Illinois at 7.5, but you need to pay $150 to win $100 on the over, so 8 seems closer to the truth. The team was probably a 6 or 7 win team ability-wise last year that happened to go 5-7 (they were probably a 7 or 8 win team the year before that, and happened to go 9-3).

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 11:36 AM ^

I'm optimistic because a lot of the things that point towards improvement are there. All the major component parts, with the exception of Vontae Davis, are back. The offense will be much improved even beyond last year; senior QB, addition of another 5* WR who seems to be the buzz in Champaign, and the running game should be improved as Jason Ford takes over more of the responsibilities as a sophomore. The achilles heel last year was turnovers and punting, and while the turnover discussion usually turns into "Juice Williams sucks" talk, it should be noted that of the 16 interceptions he through last year, 7 were outright drops. Not badly thrown balls that were deflected, but middle of the hands type drops and deflections. Huge discrepancies in turnover ratio usually regress to the mean, and I think that's what we'll see here too. EDIT: Really, someone gave that -1? If Vegas is predicting ~8 wins, and I say that seems reasonable for X reasons, that's unacceptable?

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 11:33 AM ^

In fairness to the CPS, the Illinois High School Association has some absolutely byzantine rules regarding practice times and restrictions on offseason work. Still, that doesn't seem to stop the suburban teams. For how big a city it is, Chicago punches far below its weight (I imagine Detroit has many of the same problems).

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 11:39 AM ^

Depends upon what you mean. Most girls in Bloomington in September-May are from Chicago, or at least the suburbs, so there's probably not much difference (except for the fact that Bloomington is a college town, so you get the "WOOO!!! College!!1!" atmosphere). I'll say Bloomington in the winter and Chicago in the summer.

Blazefire

July 27th, 2009 at 11:49 AM ^

Okay. Just trying to figure out when to visit both states. Friends at each school. I also want to ask about the handgun ban, but politics on sports board = bad. So... I have yet to see Benn just own like many say he does/should. Is this the year he breaks all the Big 10 records?

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 11:54 AM ^

On Benn... meh, maybe? I'm not sure he's the best WR in the country, or even top three. He's also been used terribly in his two years here; he's really not a particularly good punt returner, and he doesn't work well when motioned to the backfield. That being said, your perception is probably colored by the games you've seen (he hasn't had great games against Michigan, but Penn State fans wake up in cold sweats thinking about him.) I see him continuing to attract a lot of double teams early in the season, and as the year goes on teams will start to single him more and more out of necessity. You could see some huge efforts then.

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 12:11 PM ^

I don't the discipline to update something regularly enough to have an e-blog. I just DVR the games during the season and keep paper notebooks on the individual plays. Low-tech, doesn't take terribly long (and I enjoy it), and afterwards I generally know what happened on any given play during the season; I also have an idea on who is being overrated/underrated by everyone else. I've thought of transferring everything online, but that sounds like a chore, and I don't want it to turn into a chore.

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 12:13 PM ^

Sheesh... can't say. I don't so specific score predictions. Vegas says Illinois -7... that might be a little high. I think something in the 4-6 point range is about right, especially given the game being in Champaign. In fairness to Michigan, I think they're the 4th best team in the Big 10, behind OSU, Illinois, and Iowa, and in front of PSU.

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 1:22 PM ^

I'm just not buying into Penn State this year. The WRs made that offense run, and they're gone. Not a huge fan of Darryl Clark, and PSU is in the same one-injury-and-they're-toast situation OSU is in. The back end of the defense might be scary bad too. They'll probably win 9 games because they didn't schedule anyone, but I think they go 5-3 or 4-4 in conference play. PSU will be better than Michigan to start the season, but by the end of the year the gap will be closed (or in the other direction).

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 3:00 PM ^

OK, that's your prerogative. I find it hard to believe that a team that gave up 45 points to Illinois at home last year is going to hold them to two TDs, but hey, that's what makes preseason predictions fun. I think MSU is going to be very, very disappointing this year.

Spartyon19962001

July 27th, 2009 at 3:08 PM ^

is much better than last seasons. Also they will not let Juice run all over them like last season. As far as MSU being a disappointment, according to the sports writers polled at this morning's Big Ten Media Conference, MSU is predicted to finish third. I also have a MSU-Illinois prediction MSU will win 41-13. BTW Juice is the most over-rated player in college football.

the_white_tiger

July 27th, 2009 at 5:32 PM ^

What are you smoking, Charles Rogers weed? Can I have some? Seriously, Michigan would be lucky to beat the Illini, and MSU would be luckier. Juice beat you at home as a freshman with a 2-10 team, he must be overrated. MSU is overrated, just because writers pick them third, they'll be third. Yep, yeah and if Brian said Michigan would have a MNC next year, it'll happen. Illinois is on the rise unless Zook f's it up, it's a consensus. MSU will be lucky to get beat by less than two touchdowns against Illinois. Good luck though, optimism springs eternal in East Lansing (just like how you've passed Michigan forever in the Big Ten hierarchy, MSU owns recruiting, and Mark Dantonio is a better coach than Rodriguez.) Our defense is better coached than last year's, probably not better.

the_white_tiger

July 27th, 2009 at 5:56 PM ^

It's called a joke. Does it matter if I am an alumnus of Michigan? What about Plax? And you didn't respond to my original statement, other than the obviously reaching insult of Charles Rogers. How about "You whine like Dantonio?"

Spartyon19962001

July 27th, 2009 at 6:07 PM ^

I just don't believe a Michigan alum would have made a statement about me like that, but to answer your question, Michigan's defense is better. The players on defense have gained experience, which will make them better. Juice Williams is not that good, and the lost MSU suffered was due to JLS sucking.

Spartyon19962001

July 27th, 2009 at 6:23 PM ^

and I forgive the cheap shot. I just am convinced that the 2008 Rose Bowl appearance by Illinois was a fluke, and Juice Williams and Ron Zook are over-rated. But this is only my opinion, and I respect yours. We shall see how my predictions fare.

TIMMMAAY

July 27th, 2009 at 6:48 PM ^

I pray to many baby Jesus' that our defense will be better, but that just doesn't appear to be the case. It's life. However, I am with you on the Illinois Rose Bowl being a fluke, but they are getting better down there too. And they will probably beat you guys.

the_white_tiger

July 27th, 2009 at 6:47 PM ^

Thanks for the respect, I guess I am just so wonderfully partisan, and I'm sure that you'd say the same (about yourself and me.) I am convinced that it was also a fluke, but I think there is more of a consensus that Illinois will be better than your doom-and-gloom prediction.

CPS

July 27th, 2009 at 2:32 PM ^

There are some (not all) Illinois fans that believe there is a large, heated Illinois-Michigan rivalry. This sense of rivalry seems rather one-sided and lukewarm from a Michigan fan's perspective (unlike our boiling hatred of the lolphers!). Can you explain why this is from an Illinois fan's perspective?

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 2:47 PM ^

I didn't know it was possible to hate Minnesota. They are the team I invariably forget when trying to count the 11 teams in the Big 10. As for the Illinois/Michigan "rivalry", I don't know if it's really even considered much of a rivalry at Illinois anymore. There is a lot of hatred of Bo Schembechler for reasons too arcane to go into here. A lot of Illinois fans think they were screwed in 2000 as well. Most of that is water under the bridge though. I will say that (speaking in generalities) the Michigan fans that travel to Illinois games have, overall, been douchier than most team fans. That seems to be a general consensus amongst most people I've talked to. The odd part is that people were very nice the one time I went up to Ann Arbor, but Michigan fans carry that reputation on a lot of campuses. Just to be clear, I'm not saying it's true of all Michigan fans, and every team has their jerk fans (I sat in front of 4 of the most obnoxious people I've ever met at the Illinois/Northwestern game last year, and they were Illini fans). If you were to ask most Illinois fans who they most want to beat year in and year out, you'd probably hear Iowa more than anyone else, partly once again because of the fanbase, and partly because of some bad history between the two programs.

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 4:32 PM ^

I actually know this one, because it was bothering me once. It's a shortening of the phrase "have sand in your craw". I've heard the phrase "stuck in your craw" before, but this one must have died away, as did the shortened phrase "have sand", although, interestingly, a somewhat more, er, modern phrase has developed (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sand%20in%20your%20pussy). It means feisty or aggressive, something like playing with a chip on your shoulder. I guess other cliches have simply had more staying power.

wolfman81

July 27th, 2009 at 5:28 PM ^

Generally, Illinois went to the throat after throttling Michigan last season. (Nobody predicted 5-7 that I know of.) I felt like it was a bad loss (Minnesota, Wiscy) that snowballed (Western and Northwestern) into something bigger than it should have been. It does make me question the mental toughness of the team (maybe this is coaching related?) in general. Is this your read on it? It seems like your schedule is front loaded. Mizzou, OSU, PSU, and MSU could have you starting off 1-4 (easily 2-3). If the wheels come off early on, do you think that they can put them back on and recover to stay 8-4?

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 10:28 PM ^

That's the million dollar question about the schedule. I don't know how much I buy into momentum or any of that, but starting 1-4 (which is a little to realistic of a possibility) would be a major blow, even if the team could still be plausibly favored in the last seven games. Of course, the other side of that is that if the team starts 4-1 or (unlikely, of course) 5-0, they may run away with the Big 10. It'll be an interesting test case. As for the mental toughness, there was a win against a decent Iowa team in there, so I'm not really sure. The only game I can really point to and say that it didn't seem like the team was completely into it was the Northwestern game, but then again, Northwestern was pretty decent last year, so maybe it was just a good defense.

Chrisgocomment

July 27th, 2009 at 6:55 PM ^

1) When are they bringing back the Chief? And why can Florida State have that dude on the horse but you can't have the Chief? That's ghey. 2) How do you know about the SUGARCOAT meme? 3) Please tell me that Benn is going pro after this year. Thanks.

Illini Boy

July 27th, 2009 at 10:32 PM ^

1.) The NCAA answer is that FSU got the Seminole tribe to agree while Illinois couldn't get the fig leaf. The more likely answer is that FSU is a major player in college athletics and Illini is a mid-tier power, so if you're going to show off your PC bonafides, best to do it where it won't hurt too badly. It's really a shame; the undergrad vote always ran about 70-30 for the chief, and in honesty, Chief Illiniwek and the 3-in-1 at halftime was one of the few distinctive things about Illinois football. Now we're just Purdue without the giant drum or train whistle, or (shudder) Indiana. 2.) I've read the site for a couple of years now. I read a lot of the Big 10 sites, but most of them stink, and this one is very good. 3.) 95% he's going pro.