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B1G's Best Asst. Coach Recruiters (Rivals)

By Caesar — February 28th, 2013 at 11:07 PM — 26 comments
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Here's an interesting Rivals article (link). Highlights!

  • Obviously: OSU and Michigan have the best recruiters. You probably know all about Michigan's body of work, but OSU was admittedly impressive in Texas and Georgia. They secured the #1 Texan and took a 4 star running back wanted by Texas/Oregon. They also beat out 'Bama and Georgia for a 5 star Georgian linebacker. 
  • Also expected: Fred Jackson's recruiting prowess in Detroit is like Nick Saban and Lane Kiffin, but cleaner  (This is almost not an exaggeration.)
  • Greg Mattison's work all over the country gets mentioned. He's credited for securing Poggi from the Crimson Temptress, but you probably knew that already. 
  • I think Indiana's continued recruiting successes are the most noteworthy. They pulled a couple 4 star prospects from the Hoosier State--but also a 4 star out of Georgia.  Indy raiding the SEC is pretty wild.
  • Jerry Montgomery didn't make the list. These things probably vary by year, and I don't think it's a strong indication of anything in particular, but it's a relevant omission for Michigan fans.
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Hoke's First Miss? [Discussion of Montgomery]

By 909Dewey — February 24th, 2013 at 4:07 PM — 36 comments
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I returned home from vacation today and was surprised to see that [DL Coach Jerry] Montgomery had gone to Oklahoma.  This is surprising, because it really represents Hoke's first failure in the "always be closing Michigan" department.  Let me explain.

Brian started the "Brady Hoke poops gold" meme in the first few months of the hire.  I always thought that was an unnecessarily crude way of saying that the man is a walking intangible - people skills, emotional intelligence, command organization and structure, leadership - traits that can benefit a football coach more than running a whiz-bang offense.  In fact, I believe the original intent of the meme was to be a backhanded way of praising the "Profiles in Cronyism" subject, but I digress...

The point is that Hoke is what he is, and what he is a Michigan salesman extraordinaire.  His intangible attributes as a football coach also translate directly into recruiting, which is basically sales.  This means he has had the opportunity to sell Michigan not just to 18 year old kids, but also to some already established targets.  So far, here is who he has been able to close:

1 - Denard Robinson.  For better or worse the decision was made to make sure Denard, stayed a Michigan man.  The upside being roster continuity and a running game, the downside being the clumsy Power Spread N' Bland of the first half of last season.  We all know how Molk and others affected the transition, but at the end of the day it has to come from the head coach.  Hoke delivered.  He was able to connect to Denard.  He oversaw a transition almost free of malcontent by ensuring the biggest question mark became the biggest exclamation point.

2 - Greg Mattison.  There are still some commenters who question Hoke's long term prospects at the helm; but praise for Mattison is universal.  Though Mattison already had a history with the staff, and ties to the area, Hoke still had to seal the deal.  Bringing in an established NFL D-Coordinator to oversee a worst-to-first one year turnaround is probably Brady Hoke's biggest off the field achievement yet.

3 - Morris, Greene, et al.  Hoke, though he may not do it himself, has overseen three solid recruiting classes.  The transition class didn't turn to mush, even with the huge change in styles; and the last two classes have been national top ten efforts.  Not too much more to say here except for the fact that there is praise among all recruits regarding the staff's honesty and upfrontness.  Again, organization culture is driven from the top down, tears or no.

4 - Taylor Lewan.  This is the biggest player coup.  Having a first round left tackle come back for his senior year is tremendous because obviously.  (I always like to think about the possibilities that Lewan necessarily feels next year's team can achieve.  He is the ultimate insider going all in.)  While nobody knows the exact nature of the conversations between Hoke and Lewan, it must be assumed that Hoke was trying to get the stud left tackle to return.  In the press conference, Hoke made mention of "the pride of the position" and that "they always seemed to come back for their senior years" (paraphrasing).  That Hoke used the word pride is not surprising.  What is noteworthy was that Hoke figured out which buttons to press, and was able to press them in a subtle enough way to not evoke an reaction opposite of that intended.

This is a master?  Perhaps.  He certainly sells well.  Now we have the first "No".  What does the departure mean?  It means Montgomery is an up and coming coach who is a nationally recognized recruiter.  The way I see it, tradition, prestige, program upside, likelihood of success, and even climate are all arguably a wash.  Compensation was competitive.  I think it means that Stoops was able to offer Montgomery something that Hoke could not.  Maybe it was a promise of a promotion soon.  Maybe it was the ability to recruit more better players due to Oklahoma being on one side of an imaginary line while Michigan is on the other.

Whatever the case, Montgomery would not be the first assistant to return if it works out that way; and I have faith in Hoke to find the next piece that will result in good things.  Remember, the expectation is for the (assistant) position.  Go Blue.

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2 more coaches -- when and who?

By Rasmus — January 24th, 2011 at 7:15 PM — 36 comments
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Some may not agree, but it's pretty clear the two remaining spots on the staff are reserved for defensive coaches, probably DL and DB.

DL because both Hoke and Mattison likely recognize the importance of a dedicated DL coach, and DB because, well, yeah. Two DB coaches is also a possibility.

So why no hires, especially at DB? Possible reasons:

[1] Mattison is too busy recruiting, and doesn't have time to focus on hiring coaches. He'll do it after signing day. Rushing it now won't help recruiting and if we've learned anything in the past three years, it's that chemistry among defensive coaches and coordinator matters.

[2] They have someone in mind, but he's still working... The best-known candidate in this category, Mike Trgovac (Packers' DL coach and Bo-schooled Michigan man), is not possible, since it would be a step backward for a guy thought to have a shot at the Denver Broncos' DC position. Joe Whitt, Jr. (Packers' cornerbacks) was coaching at Louisville (cornerbacks and recruiting coordinator) through the 2007 season, so maybe, if he's interested in returning to the college ranks and Woodson and Trgovac recommend. I don't see any possibilities on the Steelers, and the Jets guys are highly unlikely. As for the Bears -- Jon Hoke (defensive backs) is, yes, Brady Hoke's older brother. Surely there's been a thread on this?

Anyhow, what is the CW?

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1994 --> 1995: Moeller to Carr

By Yostal — January 19th, 2011 at 12:00 AM — 17 comments
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(This is not off-topic because Mattison's hire actually prompted me to look in to this)

So, based on what I was able to piece together, this is what Gary Moeller's staff looked like in 1994:

Lloyd Carr DC/Asst. HC
Kit Cartwright QB/WR
Mike DeBord OT/TE
Bill Harris ???
Jim Herrmann ST/LB
Fred Jackson RB
Greg Mattison DL
Les Miles OL
Bobby Morrison OLB/Recruiting

After Moeller's dismissal, Les Miles left Michigan to become the OC at Oklahoma State under Bob Simmons, whom he had coached with at Colorado on McCartney's staff.  That made the 1995 staff under interim head coach (later head coach) Lloyd Carr:

Vance Beford DB
Erik Campbell WR
Kit Cartwright QB
Mike DeBord Assistant Head Coach
Brady Hoke DE
Jim Herrmann ST/LB
Fred Jackson RB & OC (thanks jmblue)
Greg Mattison DC
Bobby Morrison OL

So, a couple of things I am trying to work out (as I relive my high school years and spin (What's the Story) Morning Glory on repeat in my head.

1). What did Bill Harris coach for Michigan in 1994?

2). Did Gary Moeller serve as his own offensive coordinator?

3). Who was Coach Carr's offensive coordinator during the 1995 season?  (DeBord did not get the job until 1997)

4). Is it possible that DeBord and Miles were coaching the O-Line in 1994?

5). Was Hoke's hire simply to coach the defensive ends, or was it a broader defensive portfolio?  Does this indicate that Harris was a defensive coach that needed to be replaced?

Any help or insight that can be provided would be very helpful, thank you!

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Imbalance in ratio of offensive to defensive coaches derp

By mejunglechop — November 1st, 2010 at 10:03 PM — 17 comments
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I haven't seen this raised with relation to why our defense is so bad, but here it is: we effectively have 6 offensive and 4 defensive coaches. Really.

Rodriguez has spent almost all his time with the offense. On top of that you have Dews (WR), Frey (O-line), Smith (Qbs), Jackson (Rbs) and Magee (O-coordinator, TEs and Slots).

On defense we've got Tall (D-line), Braithwaite (safeties), Gibson (corners? and special teams) and Robinson (D-coordinator and LBs).

So yeah, we have 50% more coaches devoted to offense. One effect is both Gibson and Robinson double up while the offensive coaches are more specialized. Another is that simple math dictates defensive players get less coaching per player than offensive players. I don't know what to say besides derpity derpity derp derp doo. FML.

EDIT: I've been doing more research to figure out exactly what is common practice and how much different arrangements are correlated with a relatively stronger defense or offense. I'll be making this into a diary in the coming days.

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Where will Jerry Dunn end up?

By NYWolverine — April 10th, 2010 at 8:49 PM — 5 comments
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Assistant Head Coach Jerry Dunn and Coach Beilein have announced that Dunn will be leaving the program after an extended 2009-10 leave of absence. Coach Dunn had success as a head coach in several years while at Penn State, and was considered integral to much of Beilein's success at WV as a solid X's and O's coach. Coach Dunn has cited interest in a head coaching job as his major reason for leaving, and of the many open positions, I was wondering where MGoBlog thinks he'll wind up?

Dunn is from NC, so Wake Forest, Charlotte or UNC Wilmington could be destinations. He was also a 'military brat' coming up, making him a possible fit for the Citadel.

Clemson, Holy Cross, Cornell, Howard, Marshall, Oregon and Rutgers are all name schools searching for a coach that Jerry Dunn could certainly be attractive to.

Personally, I think he'd be a solid fit for Wake Forest, which returns a veteran team. It's a homecoming job for him, and he can compete for an NCAA berth in year 1.

Thoughts?

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