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11/11/2013 - 2:31pm Not saying we should get

Not saying we should get Loeffler, but their situation depth-wise is as bad as it is here at some key positions on offense. They've had a lot of injuries at RB, graduated some WR's and Logan Thomas has regressed this year, making a lot of careless mistakes, worse than what Gardner's been doing. 

I do think there are better candidates than him. I think he'd be like a DeBord or a more innovative version of Borges, with better QB coaching, too. And that may be just fine for many people. 



02/01/2013 - 10:42am I think middle-schoolers

I think middle-schoolers doing organized conditioning and the pressure coaches face may be a bit more uncommon outside of the South, but year-round conditioning certainly is not. I think in parts of the South, you do see smaller programs emulate larger-schools more often, but something like year-round conditioning, formal and informal, has been around for a while pretty much everywhere. 

01/25/2013 - 10:50am Look at CRex's post below.

Look at CRex's post below. It's not so simple as looking at height and weight. Denard has strong legs, but he has relatively long legs and a high waist compared to a lot of RB's. That's part of the reason he runs high and it also makes you susceptible to lower body injuries as time goes on. It's not just height and weight, it's his build/proportions and his running style. He also doesn't have a particularly large neck or trap muscles like some of these other runningbacks, either. Denard is a little smaller than Michael Vick, and even though he plays QB, you can see that he's not a big guy and he's going up against linemen and LB'ers on a normal basis and it's taken its toll. 

01/25/2013 - 10:43am I agree about his pad level

I agree about his pad level and upright running style. Even when he's between the tackles, he runs high, partly due to where his center of gravity being relatively high.

01/25/2013 - 10:40am I agree. You can point to

I agree. You can point to guys like Chris Johnson all you want, but the fact is that he's not the norm. If you run a 4.2 and has had sick numbers at RB through high school and college, than yes, his size is not as much of a factor. But, most RB's don't have Chris Johnson's build, who is pretty thickly built himself if you see him in person. I remember thinking Clinton Portis was on the small side, and while that may have been true, he had more of a RB build. 

01/25/2013 - 10:36am The reason he's projected to

The reason he's projected to be a WR is partly due to what other QB's have done, Denard's build, injury history, and his upside. I understand Denard was successful running the ball between the tackles, but I don't know why people are so quick to judge Denard at WR when he hasn't been playing the position very long. Whether he goes to RB or WR, he will have to learn a lot of new skills. Let the guy continue to learn and develop. Teams will probably give him some handoffs, but if he wants to grow and "own" a position, it's probably going to be as a slot WR. 

Kinda OT, but Denard is a guy who I could see blowing up in some capacity in the CFL, just sayin'.

01/24/2013 - 2:34pm I think DC would be a better

I think DC would be a better neutral site.

01/24/2013 - 11:34am A lot of people acknowledge

A lot of people acknowledge that he can be a good runningback for all the reasons you mention, but a lot of people are thinking from a longevity perspective as well. I think a lot of people look at his build and at what other QB's have done and say that WR is the best spot, but we've seen that he has great running skills besides being fast that would make him a potential weapon in the running game. 

But, there should be caution for him at RB as well, not just for durability issue, but because runningback is simply a different position, even from the running perspective. If we're going to be nit-picky, Denard does have a tendency to dance at times. His skills at RB were best observed, IMO, in the inside running game, but I do question whether he'd be an effective off-tackle runner. I think he could be effective as a zone runner, but who knows.Either way, I think he has runningback skills, but people are concerned about his longevity.

01/24/2013 - 10:18am A lot of that can be

A lot of that can be alleviated with better route running skills. Part of it is muscle memory as well. He still looks to be relatively upright with his weight a bit far back away from his feet but I think as he learns how to run these routes, he will fix this. Maybe after the catch when he's reacting more, as he did as a QB, he regresses and stumbles, but I expect him to run much cleaner routes at least. 


01/24/2013 - 10:09am I don't think he gets to that

I don't think he gets to that level, either. Harvin was such a dynamic athlete in high school, especially at wide receiver, it wasn't surprising to see him pick up full-time WR so quickly. I was actually more impressed with the way he was used at Florida. But, I agree that there are certain things that Harvin has been used to at least practicing for going on 10 years now that Denard will have to pick up some of before he's anything like the natural WR that Harvin is. 

01/24/2013 - 12:26am I think Harvin is a best-case

I think Harvin is a best-case scenario. Denard is similar in that he will probably get some snaps in some sort of wild-cat/option scenario or in a jet sweep or just something out of the backfield. But, Harvin's been a receiver for a while and he just has those instincts that may be difficult for Denard to pick up. I just hope that he can get as healthy as he can as soon as possible. He's a guy who could be very effective in the right situation, but he could just as easily be wasted, IMO. 

01/22/2013 - 11:56am I think it has peaked as

I think it has peaked as well. I think the novelty of the BCS has kind of worn off and although the playoff will breath new life into the sport, I think it'll be short-lived. I think a lot of the interest has also aligned with the increased interest in all levels of football, recruiting, and gambling. It seems like we may have peaked in a number of these areas, and if it hasn't peaked, than perhaps the rate of growth of interest has peaked and we may be plateauing soon. 

I think a new technological/media product will have to emerge if things are to continue on the path we've seen in the past decade and a half or so. 

01/17/2013 - 11:18am I think Turgeon is a very

I think Turgeon is a very good coach and they're on a positive trajectory. As for why we can't pack a basketball stadium, you can ask Maryland about their abysmal football attendance. Basketball is just a bigger deal there and really the main major sport that they've had any consistent success at recently. If they recruit the area better, they will be a very dangerous team in the Big Ten and at minimum, they'll be in the top half of the Big Ten for a while. 

01/17/2013 - 10:00am I think Robinson needs to

I think Robinson needs to stay another year and be a centerpiece of the offense.

01/15/2013 - 12:21pm This is a great fit for

This is a great fit for Loeffler and VT. I think this should breath new life into them offensively. 

01/09/2013 - 12:30pm Maryland is below the

Maryland is also below the Mason-Dixon line. And since we obsess about media markets when talking about conference expansion, Woodbridge, VA is in the DC market just like the homes of people like Countess, Furman, and countless others who've either been on the team or who've we've recruited.

The only reason why this nuance is brought up is because people see "VA" next to his name and all of a sudden he's a longshot Southern recruit when the reality is that he's a Mid-Atlantic recruit in the same market that we, OSU, PSU and others have had success recruiting. 

12/24/2012 - 3:06pm I'm doubtful about Denard's

I'm doubtful about Denard's prospects at the next level, but I actually think playing nickel or something might not be a bad idea. We don't know how well he can catch, although perhaps playing slot and catching some drags and outs would be feasible. But, Denard is strong and tough and doesn't shy away from contact. I think returning kicks will be his most likely landing spot, I could see the attraction to the idea of him playing corner, in addition to wide receiver. He could probably take snaps as a wild cat or at runningback, but he'd probably transition to WR over time for a number of reasons, health being an important one. 

12/12/2012 - 10:21pm I went to Michigan and UVA

I went to Michigan and UVA and I'm not saying that UVA would be a perfect fit, especially not culturally. I think a lot of flagship universities with high-level academics/research and good/decent sports in very nice college towns could fit in the Big Ten. And the fact that UVA has a lot of East Coasters, like a few Big Ten schools and is located in the Mid-Atlantic helps given the recent expansions. I do disagree with a number of the characterizations you made about UVA and its environs, but if you do make those characterizations about UVA, you could also make them about Penn St., Maryland, and Rutgers to a similar extent. The southern gentleman mentality you mention is probably the most significant differentiating quality between UVA and Big Ten schools. 

I went to high school in Fairfax County, Virginia and it was funny how when I went to UM, I was seen as a southerner, in the pejorative sense, more than anything else and my buddy who's from Montgomery County, MD was seen as a cool East Coaster, so ignorance and geographical stereotypes are alive and well in Big Ten country as well. 

12/12/2012 - 2:02pm Stevie Brown looked like a

Stevie Brown looked like a beast when he first came to Michigan. He had a solid senior season, but he made a number of great plays on special teams early on during his Michigan career. He also seems like an overall good guy. I'm glad to see him putting together this kind of season. 

12/12/2012 - 2:01pm I agree with you, but the

I agree with you, but the year Stevie has had so far has been pretty good so far. It would have been nice to have had some Thorpe winners, though. 

12/12/2012 - 1:14pm What you say is true, but the

What you say is true, but the political boundary between the states actually is significant. Northern Virginia was basically a backwater while Suburban Maryland was the premier suburb of Washington DC decades ago. Now, Northern Virginia has come into its own and has become more significant than Suburban Maryland economically an and is just as livable for the most part, which pisses off longtime residents and economic development officials/politicians in Maryland. And even though Maryland had slaves, being a part of the Union and being less politically and culturally conservative has always been something that Maryland has boasted about. Even if NoVa is different, it's still tied to Richmond. 

I agree about Charlottesville and UVA. I don't think it's more cosmopolitan than Ann Arbor, but I think it'd fit in to the Big Ten pretty easily. 

12/11/2012 - 10:04am He may be underappreciated

He may be underappreciated from the standpoint that a lot of people made Burke seem worse than he was when he was debating going pro after last season. It was good that he came back, but he was great towards the stretch last season and he only helped himself in camps during the offseason, which is what I think he would have done had he declared after last season. His size isn't ideal, but people seemed to underrate how skilled he was. Even some analysts didn't see it.

So, I'm glad he came back but it was clear after last season that some people underappreciated him. Not now, though.

12/04/2012 - 4:10pm I suspected something like

I suspected something like this. Either he was coasting somehow or he knew that Wiscy would have some difficulties ahead. 

11/30/2012 - 4:54pm Sounds like my experience in

Sounds like my experience in Morgantown. Morgantown is crazy, especially for rivalry games. 

11/30/2012 - 1:58pm Please stop repeating this

Please stop repeating this myth. UVA and VT have been together for less than ten years. As long has VT doesn't remain in a dumpster-fire of a conference, than the legislature is not going to obstruct things. There are certain circumstances present in the instance where the legislature got involved. 

11/29/2012 - 11:00am Is it common for the ACL to

Is it common for the ACL to be injured along with the patella? I ruptured my patella tendon and am rehabbing it, but there's an issue of buckling and lack of stability that I fear may be ACL-related. Along with the contact involved with the injury, chronic patellar tendonitis was a big contributing factor for me. I know it's different from a dislocation, but it's somewhat related still. Thanks for this post, though. 

11/29/2012 - 10:47am nm double post

nm double post

11/29/2012 - 10:46am Utah is a flagship school,

Utah is a flagship school, not bad academically, has decent sports, is located in a fast growing and economically well-off state, and fits the geography. I don't think it's correct to say that no one say Utah going to the Pac-12. 

11/28/2012 - 5:21pm I dunno how it affects it,

I dunno how it affects it, but Michigan lacrosse is on the upward trajectory either way. Michigan is a well-known brand in lacrosse-rich areas and the sport has become more popular in the midwest. I think having matchups with Maryland and having games available on the BTN will definitely help. 

11/28/2012 - 10:52am I agree. It is a smart choice

I agree. It is a smart choice from an athletics perspective. And, for the basketball-oriented programs in the conference, I'm sure they were less reluctant about this. When we talked Big Ten expansion, I'd always thought that while Louisville wouldn't be a target for us, it would be a good get for another BCS conference, whether it's the Big 12, SEC, or ACC, which I thought was the least likely, although that was before Pitt and 'Cuse joined. 

11/28/2012 - 10:39am It wasn't even 10 years ago

It wasn't even 10 years ago that VT was in the Big East, separate from UVA. As long as VT is in a good situation, than it'll be fine. The state legislature was resistant to VT being on what was then thought of as being a sinking ship, the Big East. And, at that time, VT was still on a positive trajectory as far as name recognition goes with Vick having just been there and doing well in the NFL and good post-Vick Beamer years. The ACC will stick around in some form and be alright, and if it's not than VT could go to the SEC or Big 12. They have good enough athletics, academics, and media market importance to land in a good situation. 

11/27/2012 - 4:04pm They also had some decent

They also had some decent depth at DE with Tapp around as well. I don't know if they're still concerned with his run-stopping abilities. 

11/27/2012 - 3:59pm UNC has a more NC-centric

UNC has a more NC-centric population than UVA does with its VA population. UVA is probably less hostile to the influx of northerners than UNC, and I'm not sure how significant it is at either school. And I don't think UVA and VT being in separate conferences is a big deal nowadays, either. 

11/27/2012 - 12:32pm That and it's pretty easy to

That and it's pretty easy to get into ECU, so lots of people go mainly to party. Sorta like WVU.

11/20/2012 - 11:16pm Maryland and Rutgers don't

Maryland and Rutgers don't have to compete with other powers in-state, either, unlike South Carolina/Clemson. So, in addition to what you say, the circumstances appear to be quite different in ways.

11/20/2012 - 9:58pm UVA, Penn St., and WVU

UVA, Penn St., and WVU routinely steal a lot of good talent out of both states and recently, the SEC has poached some high quality talent like Joe Haden, Jelani Jenkins, Will Hill, etc. Ohio State has had a presence in these states as well. 

The point is that Rutgers and Maryland have been mediocre programs and let a lot of talent get out of the state, both of which have sizable pools to select from. Ditto for basketball. Maryland has respectable high school football right now, but New Jersey has even more untapped potential, IMO.

I don't know if they're going to be the next South Carolina, but it may not be a bad comparison. I don't see these schools becoming powerhouses, but I think that if they can be seen more on television and can upgrade their facilities, they can be at least Iowa or Northwestern-like. 

11/20/2012 - 7:57pm I completely agree with

I completely agree with Chait. But, the only reason I support this expansion is because they're large flagship universities in densely populated and wealthy states with good academics and the potential for much better athletics as well. As crazy as these expansions are becoming, I'm almost of the mindset that we should go after the best schools no matter where they are, but I can understand the "upside" argument with this deal. Where I especially agree with Chait is with whether framing the issue in these terms as if it's a game of Risk is right. I don't think it's right at all. I think as far as the business model is concerned, I think we should be able to adjust. I don't see us going to a-la-carte cable or the content providers relinquishing their bargaining power anytime soon, but the cable business will be much different 10 years from now. 

11/20/2012 - 6:56pm It sucks that Wilson High had

It sucks that Wilson High had an ineligible player; they hadn't been to the Turkey Bowl in a while, either. Hopefully, Anacostia can become a consistent contender at some point.

11/20/2012 - 3:57pm "Rutgers, The State

"Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey" is the official name of Rutgers University.

11/19/2012 - 12:09pm It helps to bring some more

It helps to bring some more Big Ten presence to the East Coast, as much as I hate us deviating too far from what we've been about for so long. The ACC and Big East have traditionally had a very dominant footprint on the East Coast as far as athletics go. Maybe we can add another two schools to get to 16 someday with at least one of them being within a couple hours of I-95. That way we'll be a truly midwestern and northeast/mid-atlantic conference as opposed to being a midwestern one with some east coast sprinkled in. 

11/19/2012 - 11:47am The Big Ten is not a mediocre

The Big Ten is not a mediocre academic conference. We're not far and away the best like some think, but when expanding, we are going after large flagship universities, and it helps if the schools don't have much competition within their own state. Nebraska is a great football program, but Maryland and Rutgers, as academic institutions, are large and have no peers within their state. There is upside with these schools if they do benefit financially from this deal and are able to grow academically and athletically. 


11/14/2012 - 5:25pm I think we are athletic,

I think we are athletic, generally speaking, but I want to see if we can take the next step and I think our lack of athleticism has been a bit of a weakness with Beilein's teams thus far. If we can match up in the athleticism department with MSU and OSU, let alone Kansas, Kentucky, etc., than along with our other strengths, than I think we'll be legit contenders.

11/14/2012 - 12:16pm My main concern with the team

My main concern with the team is overall athleticism. McGary and Stauskas are pretty athletic, as is Biefeldt, along with most of the guys in our starting five. But, elite programs will have great athletes who play good defense, rebound well, and transition well so I'm curious to see how we match up there.

We've been able to give Burke some time on the bench, but another one of my concerns is our depth at the point guard position. Looks like Hardaway Jr. may be bringing the ball up a considerable amount, but I want to see how our backups dictate the pace of the game and set up the offense. 

08/13/2012 - 11:10pm And Bolt has a very good 60m

And Bolt has a very good 60m split at 6.29s. Not that Denard isn't fast, b/c of course he is, but in this whole discussion, there's little disagreement that after a certain distance, maybe after 20m or so because many are convinced that Denard would out-accelerate Bolt at the start, Bolt would be either catching up to or distancing himself from Denard. So, really the bottomline is that Bolt is faster than Denard if we're to look at their top speeds and people are just looking for ways to make Denard look good in this comparison. If Denard is faster than Bolt to 40 yds, that means dozens of people probably are, and that's just like trying to look for a moral victory considering what Bolt would do to them after that distance. 

08/13/2012 - 10:31pm "40 meters comes out to 36.58

"40 meters comes out to 36.58 yards, so he has 6.58 yards left to go"

40 meters is 43.74 yards. 

08/13/2012 - 8:55pm Here's a split of Usain's WR

Here's a split of Usain's WR run at Berlin. What's interesting here is that Bolt was ahead of everyone there by 40m and almost everyone at 20m. Dwain Chambers, who was also in the race, is an elite 60m guy as is Tyson Gay. If you take Bolt's 40m time and figure out what that equates to at 40yds, Bolt ran about what Brian wrote, depending on how many decimal points you use for the conversion to meters to ft/yds. And also like Brian mentioned, the sprints differ in that one starts on movement rather than a gun (and the reaction time may be quite a bit more than just a tenth depending on the runner) and the other lets you have blocks, so there's a bunch of assumptions here. 

edit: it shows up squeezed on my screen and is kind of hard to read. Here's a link to the picture:

Edit 2: Here's another pic of a chart someone made with Usain's previous WR splits versus some other historic performances. 


08/13/2012 - 8:39pm I love Denard as we all do,

I love Denard as we all do, but I've never been convinced that he's quite as fast as some would have you believe, sub 4.35 or so. Demps was an alternate on the 4x100m team in London. I think he ran a 10.02 in high school, so it's a bit surprising that he hasn't cracked 10s yet. 

08/13/2012 - 8:28pm It actually was mentioned in

It actually was mentioned in the other Denard vs. Bolt thread a couple times. 

08/12/2012 - 7:45pm Bolt would crush him even at

Bolt would crush him even at 40 yds. 4.05 sounds reasonable for him, but people have to understand that Bolt is already beating or close to beating sub-10s 100m guys by 40 yds. There are only a few people on the planet who can keep up with Bolt at that distance. Denard doesn't have that kind of speed, even though he does have great acceleration. And, if Bolt were to get a decent start like he did when he clocked a 9.58, than I think Bolt could showboat the last 5+ yds maybe. I expect people like Chris Johnson and Denard to be confident in themselves, so I'm not even surprised he said this. 

07/31/2012 - 11:48am It is impressive, I agree. I

It is impressive, I agree. I think at that weight, though, it's better to have someone's hands on the bar even it looks less impressive to some people and he's getting a tad bit of help.