I had to log in just to respond to you. My god "great men" LOL you are the epitome of a tool bag. Your school produces as many "great men" as it does not so great men. This is why everyone wants Michigan to burn. You truly believe the shit that comes out of your mouth. It is incredible yet ridiculous at the same time.
"If i had a son who was going to play major college football, I would want him to play for Jim" HAHAHA why so Jim can sleepover at your house and you can jerk him off?
If you had a son remotely close to being able to play college football you would want him to go where he is going to succeed. Not to your fantasy school because you want to blow the coach.
God damn I love Michigan fans. They never seem to disapoint.
dude you really cant read. I never said we notified authorities?
2021 we thought after the game they may have been sign stealing legally.
2022 we realized it was much more than in game sign stealing
2023 this game out before we could use it to our advantage. Ryan Day would have preferred this to not come out so he could do basically what TCU did but this all came out early.
Ryan would never want to show his hands. It was unfortunate that it came out early.
This all stems from Matt Weiss's investigation and the AAPD bringing it out.
Trading tattoos for merchandise was illegal no doubt about it. But what it isn’t is in game cheating.
in game cheating puts the integrity of the game at risk.
coaches that have spoke out aren’t understanding the depth of it. They think during the game everyone steals signs.
go listen to the whole Matt Ruhle clip not just the first half.
once these coaches realize it’s much more than during the game they will walk back everything they said.
you’re hanging your hat on deon sanders. Which is comical because a month ago your fan base hated him.
I can’t wait to watch it all fall apart on you guys.
2021 we thought they were stealing signs in game but couldn’t confirm until after the game. So now we know some sort of sign stealing is happening. Presumably legal at this point.
2022 changed everything. We changed most signs going into the game. Now not all but most. We did it for 2 reasons.
1. to bait you on certain plays (probably didn’t work like TCU did)
2. if somehow you knew the new signs quickly it would mean that it wasn’t in game anymore. when you immediately knew the ones we changed it showed that it wasn’t in game anymore and there must have been pregame sign stealing somewhere.
Michigan outed themselves. When this investigation is over. It’s all going to show Matt Weiss and his kid porn addiction was the beginning to the end.
Reading must be tough for you. Yes they changed MOST of thier signs before the game. What they didnt realize is that you alreday had all the signs even the ones they changed them too becuase it wasnt just IN GAME sign stealing.
IT was a huge scheme to know our signs no matter what they were changed to. THe only way we could have countered it would be to completely create a whole brand new sign language.
You cant do that mid week and you wouldnt do that if you didnt know they were going to all the games you had before hand and scouting your signs.
When they say they "knew" Michigan was stealing signs they thought it was IN GAME sign stealing. They did not know michigan was sending people to 8 games to steal every single sign they had and then used all of those.
OSU changed most of their signs before the game last year but they didnt realize the signs they changed them to were signs that michigan already had because they had been to SO MANY of their games.
You guys are so idiotic its actually funny. A school that PRIDES themselves on being smarter than everyone else cant understand basic logic. The fans being this delusional is probably my favorite part of all of this.
I live in Michigan and most of my friends are michigan fans. Half get it and the other half who I would say are typically pretty smart refuse to actually connect the dots. Its going to be glorious when the fall happens.
This is by far the funniest story of all time. Michigan fans are delusional. This is going to come back hard on you. This isnt just sign stealing. This is so much deeper than that and for some reason you all are acting like it isnt.
When Urban got caught helping a woman beater OSU fans were naive that he didnt know. You all were all up in arms saying there is no way he didnt know. Now 5 years later listen to you all. This is going to be one of the biggest in game cheating scandals of all time in college football.
NO other school in america has an elaborate scheme to go to all of their upcoming games to record and thier signs and then marry those signs up to the games to know what their plays are. i agree everyone tries to steal signs in game but to go to all these games and record signs is the issue.
"why dont you change signs game to game" is something that you all keep saying. I love that argument for you. You had tickets to 8 OSU games. How many times would you like a team to change thier signs so that you dont know them in a game where its very time consuming to just focus on signs week to week. Most teams go into the season with 5/6 sets for the year. You dont have time to do it week in and week out.
everyone saying 11.6 and 4.11.h arent related makes me laugh.
11.6 - you cant scout future opponents in person
4.11.h - "Any attempt to record, either through audio or video means, any signals given by an opposing player, coach or other team personnel is prohibited."
now your argument for this is that they arent related and that 4.11.h pertains to games where you are playing that opponent.
You realize that is a terrible argument. The reason why is because YOU ARENT SUPPOSED TO BE AT THOSE other games to begin with so why would they put in a rule that says you cant video other games when its illegal to be there regardless. Obviously its going to be illegal to film those signs since its illegal to be there.
I cant wait until the hacking all comes out. Michigan is COOKED. You all are in denial and its hilarious.
Urban Meyer broke you all. He made your beloved head coach do something that you guys/girls cant even fathom. I get it. You all dont understand the depth of this. You think its just sign stealing. No big deal. losing to OSU For 20 years made your team do something that is so outrageous it cant be true. I almost feel bad for you all.
THIS is the best take I have ever read - my god you all may have hit rock bottom. First Urban would never take on your dumpster fire of a program. Second hates michigan LOL. Look at you fans - holy smokes this is as bad as I have ever seen it. Maybe Michigan should just pack it up
If this is truly the mindset of a Michigan fan you already lost. Tell me why he is the best you can do?? There are coaches out there right now that have already lapped JH in terms of coaching. Michigan is Michigan you will always be able to recruit from LC, to RR, to BH to JH and the next will be able to as well.
JH doesnt know how to hire coaches and develop players - that is the number one issue. Sure he won at Stanford - because he found a QB in Andrew Luck that took him places - he didnt create Andrew Luck - Luck would have been gold for any coach that found him...
Look at Gattis - poor hire.. the guy you wanted is currently the headcoach for Maryland - Gattis never called a play before and after watching the first three games that shows... can he turn it around? I dont know but It is absolutely pitiful watching his speed in space offense.
I am from Michigan and all of my friends are Michigan fans and it baffles me that you all feel that there is no one else that can have the success that JH has had. Jim has not won anything - so it would be pretty easy to find someone that can do that I am sure of it. Now who would I want. This is the question - the answer starts and ends with an Offensive minded HC that knows how to find a QB and win. Insert Ryan Day - no one heard of him 3 year ago and now he is considered the best offensive mind short of Lincoln Riley... But surely Michigan would have said no way because he isnt a Michigan Man... That mindset needs to go or you will stay where you have always been since 1950 - how about find a great coach and then he becomes a michigan man... isnt that what your great BO was?
Matt Campbell - Iowa State
Neal Brown - Troy
I chose those two specifically because not only are their offenses strong they are also winners. Until you have an offense that can spread out the field and use those athletes the way they are meant to be used you will consistently fall short. Keep wasting Don Browns best years and then youll have to change both sides of the ball.
COME ON PEOPLE YOU ARE MICHIGAN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD - YOU HAVE A PASSIONATE FAN BASE, A GREAT HISTORY BUT FOR SOME REASON YOU BELIEVE YOU CANT DO ANY BETTER THAN A WEIRD COACH THAT WINS 10 GAMES BUT NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE?
Losing mindset through and through - i hope for all of you that something changes...
Good luck against wisconsin - youll have one buckeye fan rooting for you at least
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I had to log in just to respond to you. My god "great men" LOL you are the epitome of a tool bag. Your school produces as many "great men" as it does not so great men. This is why everyone wants Michigan to burn. You truly believe the shit that comes out of your mouth. It is incredible yet ridiculous at the same time.
"If i had a son who was going to play major college football, I would want him to play for Jim" HAHAHA why so Jim can sleepover at your house and you can jerk him off?
If you had a son remotely close to being able to play college football you would want him to go where he is going to succeed. Not to your fantasy school because you want to blow the coach.
God damn I love Michigan fans. They never seem to disapoint.
dude you really cant read. I never said we notified authorities?
2021 we thought after the game they may have been sign stealing legally.
2022 we realized it was much more than in game sign stealing
2023 this game out before we could use it to our advantage. Ryan Day would have preferred this to not come out so he could do basically what TCU did but this all came out early.
Ryan would never want to show his hands. It was unfortunate that it came out early.
This all stems from Matt Weiss's investigation and the AAPD bringing it out.
Trading tattoos for merchandise was illegal no doubt about it. But what it isn’t is in game cheating.
in game cheating puts the integrity of the game at risk.
coaches that have spoke out aren’t understanding the depth of it. They think during the game everyone steals signs.
go listen to the whole Matt Ruhle clip not just the first half.
once these coaches realize it’s much more than during the game they will walk back everything they said.
you’re hanging your hat on deon sanders. Which is comical because a month ago your fan base hated him.
I can’t wait to watch it all fall apart on you guys.
You’re so close I can taste it.
2021 we thought they were stealing signs in game but couldn’t confirm until after the game. So now we know some sort of sign stealing is happening. Presumably legal at this point.
2022 changed everything. We changed most signs going into the game. Now not all but most. We did it for 2 reasons.
1. to bait you on certain plays (probably didn’t work like TCU did)
2. if somehow you knew the new signs quickly it would mean that it wasn’t in game anymore. when you immediately knew the ones we changed it showed that it wasn’t in game anymore and there must have been pregame sign stealing somewhere.
Michigan outed themselves. When this investigation is over. It’s all going to show Matt Weiss and his kid porn addiction was the beginning to the end.
Reading must be tough for you. Yes they changed MOST of thier signs before the game. What they didnt realize is that you alreday had all the signs even the ones they changed them too becuase it wasnt just IN GAME sign stealing.
IT was a huge scheme to know our signs no matter what they were changed to. THe only way we could have countered it would be to completely create a whole brand new sign language.
You cant do that mid week and you wouldnt do that if you didnt know they were going to all the games you had before hand and scouting your signs.
When they say they "knew" Michigan was stealing signs they thought it was IN GAME sign stealing. They did not know michigan was sending people to 8 games to steal every single sign they had and then used all of those.
OSU changed most of their signs before the game last year but they didnt realize the signs they changed them to were signs that michigan already had because they had been to SO MANY of their games.
You guys are so idiotic its actually funny. A school that PRIDES themselves on being smarter than everyone else cant understand basic logic. The fans being this delusional is probably my favorite part of all of this.
I live in Michigan and most of my friends are michigan fans. Half get it and the other half who I would say are typically pretty smart refuse to actually connect the dots. Its going to be glorious when the fall happens.
This is by far the funniest story of all time. Michigan fans are delusional. This is going to come back hard on you. This isnt just sign stealing. This is so much deeper than that and for some reason you all are acting like it isnt.
When Urban got caught helping a woman beater OSU fans were naive that he didnt know. You all were all up in arms saying there is no way he didnt know. Now 5 years later listen to you all. This is going to be one of the biggest in game cheating scandals of all time in college football.
NO other school in america has an elaborate scheme to go to all of their upcoming games to record and thier signs and then marry those signs up to the games to know what their plays are. i agree everyone tries to steal signs in game but to go to all these games and record signs is the issue.
"why dont you change signs game to game" is something that you all keep saying. I love that argument for you. You had tickets to 8 OSU games. How many times would you like a team to change thier signs so that you dont know them in a game where its very time consuming to just focus on signs week to week. Most teams go into the season with 5/6 sets for the year. You dont have time to do it week in and week out.
everyone saying 11.6 and 4.11.h arent related makes me laugh.
11.6 - you cant scout future opponents in person
4.11.h - "Any attempt to record, either through audio or video means, any signals given by an opposing player, coach or other team personnel is prohibited."
now your argument for this is that they arent related and that 4.11.h pertains to games where you are playing that opponent.
You realize that is a terrible argument. The reason why is because YOU ARENT SUPPOSED TO BE AT THOSE other games to begin with so why would they put in a rule that says you cant video other games when its illegal to be there regardless. Obviously its going to be illegal to film those signs since its illegal to be there.
I cant wait until the hacking all comes out. Michigan is COOKED. You all are in denial and its hilarious.
Urban Meyer broke you all. He made your beloved head coach do something that you guys/girls cant even fathom. I get it. You all dont understand the depth of this. You think its just sign stealing. No big deal. losing to OSU For 20 years made your team do something that is so outrageous it cant be true. I almost feel bad for you all.
THIS is the best take I have ever read - my god you all may have hit rock bottom. First Urban would never take on your dumpster fire of a program. Second hates michigan LOL. Look at you fans - holy smokes this is as bad as I have ever seen it. Maybe Michigan should just pack it up
If this is truly the mindset of a Michigan fan you already lost. Tell me why he is the best you can do?? There are coaches out there right now that have already lapped JH in terms of coaching. Michigan is Michigan you will always be able to recruit from LC, to RR, to BH to JH and the next will be able to as well.
JH doesnt know how to hire coaches and develop players - that is the number one issue. Sure he won at Stanford - because he found a QB in Andrew Luck that took him places - he didnt create Andrew Luck - Luck would have been gold for any coach that found him...
Look at Gattis - poor hire.. the guy you wanted is currently the headcoach for Maryland - Gattis never called a play before and after watching the first three games that shows... can he turn it around? I dont know but It is absolutely pitiful watching his speed in space offense.
I am from Michigan and all of my friends are Michigan fans and it baffles me that you all feel that there is no one else that can have the success that JH has had. Jim has not won anything - so it would be pretty easy to find someone that can do that I am sure of it. Now who would I want. This is the question - the answer starts and ends with an Offensive minded HC that knows how to find a QB and win. Insert Ryan Day - no one heard of him 3 year ago and now he is considered the best offensive mind short of Lincoln Riley... But surely Michigan would have said no way because he isnt a Michigan Man... That mindset needs to go or you will stay where you have always been since 1950 - how about find a great coach and then he becomes a michigan man... isnt that what your great BO was?
Matt Campbell - Iowa State
Neal Brown - Troy
I chose those two specifically because not only are their offenses strong they are also winners. Until you have an offense that can spread out the field and use those athletes the way they are meant to be used you will consistently fall short. Keep wasting Don Browns best years and then youll have to change both sides of the ball.
COME ON PEOPLE YOU ARE MICHIGAN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD - YOU HAVE A PASSIONATE FAN BASE, A GREAT HISTORY BUT FOR SOME REASON YOU BELIEVE YOU CANT DO ANY BETTER THAN A WEIRD COACH THAT WINS 10 GAMES BUT NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE?
Losing mindset through and through - i hope for all of you that something changes...
Good luck against wisconsin - youll have one buckeye fan rooting for you at least