Playing Young and the "Barwis Effect"

Submitted by bonobojones on

I would assume that a certain percentage of us that would be sad to see RR go would also be very sad because it would mean Mike Barwis would leave. From the voice and attitude to the Brock story, he has been a huge positive at the University. One of the things that excites me about his program is the emphasis on replacing bad mass, fat, with good mass, muscle.

In interviews with him and players, it comes across that your first year with him is amazingly dificult.  So I've always wondered, does the change take place? And, does this make playing young even more dificult? For a young player must not only learn to play the game at a higher rate with a higher level of sophistication, they must also do it while massively transforming their bodies. This could lead to big problems as seen by the defense this year.

So what follows is a big chart based on official team rosters 2008-2010.  The % column is the percent body weight change, and the bottom is the overall % change for that position group that year.

 200820092010
playerWt.ClassposWt.Classpos%Wt.Classpos%
Forcier   188FRQB 190SOQB1.1
D. Robinson   185FRQB 193SOQB4.3
----------------------------------------------------------2.7
Cox206FRRB208RFRRB1.0211RSORB1.4
Shaw185FRRB178SORB-3.8188JRRB5.6
V. Smith   168FRRB 180SORB7.1
Toussaint   185FRRB 200RFRRB8.1
------------------------------------------------1.4---------------5.6
Gallon   165FRSR 188RFRSR13.9
Odoms171FRWR172SOWR0.6175JRSR1.7
T. Robinson170FRWR171RFRWR0.6176RSOSR2.9
Roundtree154FRWR170RFRSR10.4176RSOSR3.5
-----------------------------------------------3.9---------------5.5
Hemingway214SOWR220RSOWR2.8225RJRWR2.3
Stokes   181FRWR 193SOWR6.6
Stonum190FRWR196SOWR3.2195JRWR-0.5
-----------------------------------------------3.0---------------2.1
Koger220FRTE249SOTE13.2256JRTE2.8
Webb249SOTE245JRTE-1.6268SRTE9.4
-----------------------------------------------2.9---------------3.0
Barnum,265FROL275RFROL3.8286RSOOL4.0
Dorrestein308RSOOL306RJROL-0.6321RSROL4.9
Huyge292RFROL288RSOOL-1.4306RJROL6.3
Khoury280FROL283RFROL1.1295RSOOL4.2
Lewan   268FROL 294RFROL9.7
Molk282RFROL275RSOOL-2.5287RJROL4.4
Mealer280FROL299RFROL6.8313RSOOL4.7
Omameh260FROL276RFROL6.2305RSOOL10.5
Schilling295RSOOL304RJROL3.1308RSROL1.3
Washington   325FROL 315RFRDT-3.1
-----------------------------------------------2.0---------------4.7
Banks258RSODE266RJRDT3.1285RSRDT7.1
Cambell   318FRDT 331SOOL4.1
Heininger239RFRDE261RSODE9.2277RJRDT6.1
Martin285FRDT292SODT2.5299JRDT2.4
Patterson259JRDE263RJRDE1.5276RSROL4.9
Roh   238FROLB 251SOLB5.5
Sagesse308FRDT279JRDT-9.4289srdt3.6
RVB265RFRDE271RSODT2.3287RJRDE5.9
Watson242RFRTE257RSOOLB6.2268RJRDE4.3
       2.2   4.9
Bell   220FRLB 245RFRLB11.4
Demens226FRLB236RFRLB4.4246RSOLB4.2
Ezeh247RSOLB243RJRLB-1.6244RSRLB0.4
Fitzgerald230FRLB232SOLB0.9244JRLB5.2
Herron218RFRLB220RSOLB0.9220RJRLB0.0
M. Jones   203FRLB 208SOLB2.5
Mouton230RSOLB228RJRLB-0.9240SRLB5.3
-----------------------------------------------0.7---------------4.1
Floyd190FRCB183RFRCB-3.7183RSOCB0.0
Rogers180SOWR182SOWR1.1188SRCB3.3
Woolfolk195SOCB193JRS-1.0195RSRCB1.0
------------------------------------------------1.2---------------1.4
C. Gordon   208FRWR 207RFRS-0.5
T. Gordon   205FRS 205RFRS0.0
Hawthorne   198FRLB 205RFRS3.5
Kovacs   194RFRS 195RSOS0.5
Williams185RFRS188RSOS1.6200RJRS6.4
-----------------------------------------------1.6---------------2.0

Hmmmm.

I will preface my this by acknowledging that this is probably a terrible analysis. I once spent good time and money with someone with a doctorate trying to teach me an intro to stats. It did not go well, my future studies avoided stats classes.

In every position group besided WR, the overall % weight gain was larger in year 2 vs. year 1 under Barwis. Anecdotal evidence supports the first year being a mix of removing bad weight and putting on good weight.

Looking at the large changes taking place with OL, DL, and LB, it's obvious that these players should not be playing young. Or at least we should not be judging them so much based on performance in their first couple of years.

This also seems true with the smaller explosive athletes at RB and Slot. These players all underwent pretty massive changes. Shaw especially lost a good amount of weight and put it back on. I think he was noticeably a more powerful runner this year when healthy.  This also goes for Vinnie, who not only had to recover from a massive injury, he put on a large amount of weight.  

There is a lot more analysis to be done if this info was to be truly useful. I feel I need to adjust for age for example. But like I said, I'm pretty terrible at stats, so maybe someone else can use this info paint a clearer picture. Just wanted to share it and see what others thought about it and the idea of the dificulty of playing young under Barwis.

Comments

mackbru

December 15th, 2010 at 8:47 PM ^

I'm sure Barwis is a good trainer and person. But the whole Barwis Effect thing has not proven to be anything but hype. As each season has worn on, the team has faded. Injuries have been rampant. I'm not saying that's his fault. But I certainly see no reason to suggest that he's somehow whipped everyone into better shape. He's made players quicker, perhaps. Because the offense calls for smaller, leaner players. But perhaps they're not as strong as they once were. You just can't be sure.

AlumniDDS

December 16th, 2010 at 5:41 AM ^

I think Barwis has had a great impact on the S&C of our players so far.  If you consider that we mostly have freshman and sophomores making up our two deep in most positions, with a couple of juniors and an occasional senior thrown in for good measure, they have looked well conditioned.  Most are undersized, due to not having an opportunity to red-shirt for a year, then come up through the ranks and play as juniors and seniors, as is usually the case in major college football.  If RR stays, and can build depth and talent to the roster, I definitely think Barwis can mold these guys into Big Ten size with SEC speed.