Am I the only one who finds this at least a bit concerning? I'm not discounting what we have accomplished, but our NC has NOT shown to give us any recruiting bump whatsoever yet. It seems that $$$ still rules the day and it looks like we still like to be arrogant about it. I'd hate to lose all momentum if we don't invest more in NIL etc.
Something will have to burst with regards to college prices. Its already insane! My high school (very big public high school in Cook County) is starting to back off trying to get kids into college. When I was a student in the 90s, every guidance counselor was about pushing college onto kids. Now, they are being more prudent about it.
I believe you didn't need an SAT/ACT test score to go to OSU until 2004. As much as I despise that school, ugly campus and cooler pooper fanbase, I can respect the ideal of giving a nice public school college education to the regular masses regardless of stats and/or socioeconomic status.
My other complaint about college is that beyond the educational experience, it is viewed too much as a status symbol. For example, my wife has several 40-plus year old single girlfriends who will not go out with a guy unless they went to college. I think that is BS IMO.
I'm with you. I really don't think I could get into Michigan today.
And with younger kids, its giving me anxiety on how to prepare for the college, both from an academic and financial standpoint. And my kids are POC, which helps tremendously, but still gives me anxiety.
My one controversial opinion on this topic is that we really need to assess and minimize the need for college at all. This could solve a lot problems IMO.
Not trying to go there, but we've had a couple mayors who are a little loose on crime IMO. We just had a cop funeral where they asked for mayor Johnson not to attend. This is a big deal and an indication of where the city is now.
It got really bad during the 2020 riots, at this time we got out while we could. I miss living in Chicago. It has improved greatly since 2020, but it has a long way to go.
In Chicago, but stay away. I've been all over the world, and Chicago used to be one of the shining gems of urban living. It was affordable, vibrant and safe. Not so much anymore.
I've been to a bunch of games at old Tiger Stadium. In fact, I was at the last game ever at the stadium. Awesome game! Anyway, I thought Tiger stadium was very seat dependent. I thought the bleachers were pretty bad (but paid $5 for those seats in the late 90s), but I sat in some awesome seats there for very little (maybe $35).
Most over-rated to me was Fenway. I went to a few games maybe 10 years ago. The stadium was just fine I guess, considering its super old, but the surrounding area was pretty meh. If it wasn't for the Green Monster, Fenway has very little charm.
Neg me, but I really miss him. I don’t miss the anger and the bad play this season, but I just miss him being part of the program. I thought he got a raw deal here and it still pisses me off.
There is something nostalgic or a certain charm about watching sports in an outdoor stadium. I don’t know what it is, but I prefer it, even when the weather is horrible. I just feel like I’m part of the experience when I get wet/cold/sweaty/hot/etc
I had a GF many years ago whose family had season tickets to the Bears. But they hated going to games with bad weather. Because of that, I had free tickets to Bears games anytime after Thanksgiving.
One of JB's rules is that he would not offer a kid until he visited the campus. I'm not sure if that we a good or bad thing, but just a thing many people on here thought was outdated.
I have it on good authority that in Chicago, there was really no way JB was going to land a top recruit out of Chicago unless he played dirty. I suspect that was how it was with most big time recruits.
Let me say this. I was definitely in the camp that Dusty May was an over-rated hire. I equated him to Archie Miller: good coach who made his mark at a smaller school, but didn't have the chops to handle the big stage.
With that, I'm super impressed in how he's put together the roster. I'm thinking we make the tournament this coming year.
When you put it in that context, it hurts even more. Michigan used to be QBU, and we couldn't lock in the top QBs the past few years. I get that times change, but lets hope that our approach is not a flash in the pan approach.
I think we'll end up just fine, but with that said, I am expecting more than finishing in the 10-15 range. Winning the NC should help us, but we'll see what happens.
I have to say, it really sucks that we couldn't close on Bryce Underwood. The overall #1 recruit in the nation just down the street with such strong connections, and we couldn't close.
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Is there a Kentucky joke in there somewhere?
Am I the only one who finds this at least a bit concerning? I'm not discounting what we have accomplished, but our NC has NOT shown to give us any recruiting bump whatsoever yet. It seems that $$$ still rules the day and it looks like we still like to be arrogant about it. I'd hate to lose all momentum if we don't invest more in NIL etc.
I mean there is no way a single credit from MSU would transfer, so this pick up is unlikely
It’s missing Haskins giant sack, but it’s cool nonetheless. 😀
Taylor Lewan procreated? Yikes!
Keith Jackson is such as treasure. So glad to have him with us still.
Jerky Boys! They really jumped the shark with that movie they made
Good point. Grade inflation is certainly a thing.
Something will have to burst with regards to college prices. Its already insane! My high school (very big public high school in Cook County) is starting to back off trying to get kids into college. When I was a student in the 90s, every guidance counselor was about pushing college onto kids. Now, they are being more prudent about it.
I believe you didn't need an SAT/ACT test score to go to OSU until 2004. As much as I despise that school, ugly campus and cooler pooper fanbase, I can respect the ideal of giving a nice public school college education to the regular masses regardless of stats and/or socioeconomic status.
I think he made a good decision too!
My other complaint about college is that beyond the educational experience, it is viewed too much as a status symbol. For example, my wife has several 40-plus year old single girlfriends who will not go out with a guy unless they went to college. I think that is BS IMO.
profit?
I'm with you. I really don't think I could get into Michigan today.
And with younger kids, its giving me anxiety on how to prepare for the college, both from an academic and financial standpoint. And my kids are POC, which helps tremendously, but still gives me anxiety.
My one controversial opinion on this topic is that we really need to assess and minimize the need for college at all. This could solve a lot problems IMO.
Not trying to go there, but we've had a couple mayors who are a little loose on crime IMO. We just had a cop funeral where they asked for mayor Johnson not to attend. This is a big deal and an indication of where the city is now.
It got really bad during the 2020 riots, at this time we got out while we could. I miss living in Chicago. It has improved greatly since 2020, but it has a long way to go.
In Chicago, but stay away. I've been all over the world, and Chicago used to be one of the shining gems of urban living. It was affordable, vibrant and safe. Not so much anymore.
Ten years man!!!!
This sounds made up, but I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Cleveland Municipal was great for football, but bad for baseball IMO.
I've been to a bunch of games at old Tiger Stadium. In fact, I was at the last game ever at the stadium. Awesome game! Anyway, I thought Tiger stadium was very seat dependent. I thought the bleachers were pretty bad (but paid $5 for those seats in the late 90s), but I sat in some awesome seats there for very little (maybe $35).
I'm not much of a baseball fan, but Wrigley lost its charm about 5 years ago. Its a corporate quagmire now.
Most over-rated to me was Fenway. I went to a few games maybe 10 years ago. The stadium was just fine I guess, considering its super old, but the surrounding area was pretty meh. If it wasn't for the Green Monster, Fenway has very little charm.
And Sanristil to Washington
Anyone got a video of the draft honoring Michigan ?
Neg me, but I really miss him. I don’t miss the anger and the bad play this season, but I just miss him being part of the program. I thought he got a raw deal here and it still pisses me off.
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No! This was back when they were good. I got to go the Bears-Panthers playoff game many years ago for free. Bears lost of course.
There is something nostalgic or a certain charm about watching sports in an outdoor stadium. I don’t know what it is, but I prefer it, even when the weather is horrible. I just feel like I’m part of the experience when I get wet/cold/sweaty/hot/etc
I had a GF many years ago whose family had season tickets to the Bears. But they hated going to games with bad weather. Because of that, I had free tickets to Bears games anytime after Thanksgiving.
And the fact that Iggy B was JB's only 1-n-done. Think about that for a minute. That would drive me crazy if I were JB.
No no no. Every single Spartan grad got into Michigan, but chose to go to MSU because reasons.
One of JB's rules is that he would not offer a kid until he visited the campus. I'm not sure if that we a good or bad thing, but just a thing many people on here thought was outdated.
I have it on good authority that in Chicago, there was really no way JB was going to land a top recruit out of Chicago unless he played dirty. I suspect that was how it was with most big time recruits.
Poor Maurie. He got a raw deal.
Matt. Looks like the top picture got "crammed" again. Just a heads up.
TL, but I still read. Good stuff.
Let me say this. I was definitely in the camp that Dusty May was an over-rated hire. I equated him to Archie Miller: good coach who made his mark at a smaller school, but didn't have the chops to handle the big stage.
With that, I'm super impressed in how he's put together the roster. I'm thinking we make the tournament this coming year.
I think that was Rubin
I’ve been to Jerusalem a couple times. Truly a magical place!
You guys made me eat that gifilte fish nonsense. So you should drink that sugar juice! Ha
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When you put it in that context, it hurts even more. Michigan used to be QBU, and we couldn't lock in the top QBs the past few years. I get that times change, but lets hope that our approach is not a flash in the pan approach.
I think we'll end up just fine, but with that said, I am expecting more than finishing in the 10-15 range. Winning the NC should help us, but we'll see what happens.
I have to say, it really sucks that we couldn't close on Bryce Underwood. The overall #1 recruit in the nation just down the street with such strong connections, and we couldn't close.
Ugh! Fenwick?! Really!
I hate those stuck up fuckers, but I grew to love Mike Smith, so I guess I'm cool here.
Dear lord! Just couldn't help yourself, could ya?
Just be glad nobody posted an MSU spring game observations thread.
Is this your new Saved by the Bell commitment gif?
The OL looked good on that drive but I’m not sure if it means anything yet
Looking better though
I think the effort you put forth for the post title was worse.
Better than Tom Raper of Tom Raper RVs
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