Jalen Update (caught speeding)
As someone who is opening a school with his name on it that is founded around the concept of leadership, this is one of the most embarrassing transgressions of actions and puts yet another negative light on the Detroit area.
Yeah it's bad, but not a reflection on Detroit. Is anyone saying Braylon's actions somehow affect anyone's perception of NYC? It's one individual being reckless and stupid.
Well, the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy will be a reflection on Detroit's educational landscape and this certainly doesn't help.
I was offered a job at the school and at this point I'm glad I turned it down. He should take his name off the school. Detroit's education system has enough problems as is.
It's not a driver ed school is it? This may be bad timing but going ten over the speed limit, does that deserve all that much attention? I haven't lived in SE Michigan for awhile but I do remember the M-14/696 race every morning well above the posted speeds...in the right lane.
I don't have any data but I would be willing to bet anything that someone who is considered a great leader drove ten mph over a speed limit this morning.
The article says 20+ MPH over and context/timing is obviously important here. Weak move, Jalen.
The chief of police said he was ticketed for 10 over. I'll take his word over the television report.
The point was that driving 10 mph over is pretty much the norm and the law is arbitrarily enforced.
But the other side of the whole Michigan Man theme is to be judgmental. So preach on all of you perfect Michigan Men, preach on!
It's not a driver ed school is it? This may be bad timing but going ten over the speed limit, does that deserve all that much attention? I haven't lived in SE Michigan for awhile but I do remember the M-14/696 race every morning well above the posted speeds...in the right lane.The school's foundation is on leadership. Jalen Rose's name is on the school. He's being a terrible leader to at-risk kids. Maybe he should had just donated/raised money to the school instead of putting his name on it; then it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
He got a speeding ticket. That should be a non-issue. The DUI is obviously a lot worse. But to extend that to his school and to Detroit in general is a little silly.
Take a step down from your pompous highhorse bucko! Oh my, he got a DUI and a speeding ticket, clearly he's not a Michigan man. But he should continue his community service that's well above what most athletes do, but take his name off the school? That was the dumbest $h!t I've heard all year. Just stop before you continue to embarrass yourself.
So for all of you who believe that this speeding ticket is horrible due to the fact that Jalen is trying to help inner city Detroit kids by building a school think about this. Should the example these kids be looking up to be the guy on the corner with a drug record? Or the guy who built a school for them and got a speeding ticket? The dui is horrible be outraged about that all you want but at this point people we are talking about a speeding ticket. Get your priorities straight.
I know in the adult world a speeding ticket is nothing.
And maybe I'm not stressing the "Leadership" aspect of this. At the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy (JRLA) the students will be taking leadership classes. It isn't a normal school in the sense most of us think about it. The school is founded on the principles of leadership, ethics, etc.
I'm not trying to be Mr. High Horse on a speeding ticket, or even a DUI. But, I don't have to be. I didn't plaster my name all over an inner-city school.
Kids will ask their parents to go to this school because Jalen's name on it. They will be taking leadership classes in a school with Jalen's name on it less than a month that their flagship leader and role model was in jail.
There's so much screwed up with inner city schools and now Jalen, who has made himself this rolemodel and epitome of leadership to these innercity students, will be in jail while the school is preparing to open.
He should take his name off the school.
He's in jail for something that most people in the country get a fine and slap on the wrist over. He had the shitluck of getting his ticket in Bloomfield Hills. Coupled with what some of these inner city kids have seen on top of all the good he's done I don't think too many people are going to shit a brick over this and not send their kids to a better school.
I don't either, I just think it is pretty hypocritical. I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.
He's done great things. No doubt. He made a mistake. In my opinion, his sentence was deserving, but that's a separate, political debate.
My point was he could be making just as big of an impact on innercity schools without putting himself in a position of high-scrutiny. That was his choice. With that choice comes responsibilities. He did not live up to those responsibilities (and not because of the speeding ticket, though it's awful timing).
Students, especially innercity students, are so prone to any kind of influence. I've worked with them. I worry that the message may become "Drinking and driving isn't a huge deal. Look at Jalen! He runs our school and makes millions of dollars."
That's my point. I think he should probably remove his name from the school and continue to contribute money and raise money. I'm positive he'll do great things with the students and tell his story. But as an educator or just an educated person, how can you not be bothered by the example Jalen is leading right now for young inner city students???
"Students, especially innercity students, are so prone to any kind of influence"' Tom from AA thanks to you, I now know they are especially prone to this, unlike our country club students.
We have had presidents both republican and democrat so this isn't potitical that have admitted to drug use. They were president's and leaders on a world scale. But a speeding ticket disqualifies from being involved with and funding a leadership academy? Again I say we need to re examine priorities.
Where did I say a speeding ticket disqualifies him? I think the DUI disqualifies him. This doesn't help the situation.
You keep talking about how he should be disqualified from having a hand in this school in a thread that is about the speeding ticket. This is the first you have brought up the dui. The dui is fair game I have said that in this thread previously I even said it was horrible. My problem has been all your ranting about the speeding ticket.
Except I never really said anything about a speeding ticket specifically. I talked about a transgression of events in my original post. I guess I could have explicitly said "the DUI should be the reason" for him removing his name, but if you read my comments even slightly carefully it should be fairly apparent that I'm talking about the entire body of Jalen's mistakes, the most serious of which is the DUI.
But whatever. I hope Jalen recognizes, from here on out, that if he's going to work with kids in a hands-on, public fashion that he needs to be more careful.
Personally, I couldn't care less about the speeding ticket. The timing is just really terrible with the DUI. Obviously, Jalen is a much better role model than the drug dealer at the end of the block, and I'm glad he's doing everything he's doing for these kids. I just think he needs to be a little more careful now that he's attached his name to schools like this.
I guess that's why they call you Turd. JK, you're entitled to your opinion. Our last President had a DUI and I'm sure a speeding ticket or two in his day. Should that have disqualified him from leading our nation? No, but his sheer stupidty should've. ;)
You're a moron and it's sad that you're shaping the minds of this states' youth.
I'm moving out of state. The attitude towards education in this state is laughable, as shown by your ignorant comment above.
Someone having a little case of lead foot in a low-speed zone puts a negative light on an entire metropolitan area?
I've seen it all now.
Coupled with the boozy transgressions of Braylon and Stonum, it casts a bad light.
Why are "MICHIGAN MEN" falling all over themselves to see who can cause the most embarassment?
Strive for excellence even perfection.
That doesn't mean any have arrived.
Michigan Men are still human.
You're absolutely right though, this falls far short of what you'd expect from a MM.
$100 million before I turned 40 and was into having a frequent cocktail I think I would consider hiring a driver. Certainly a taxi might make more sense when hammered than getting behind the wheel.
It's seems hard to teach stupid.
I completely understand that the DUI mess should carry heavy consequences, but he was speed on the highway. I consider myself a pretty good guy, but frequently get caught up in things and check my gauges, only to find that Im 15 miles over the speed limit. This is no big deal, people are just making a big deal of it because of his recent issues. If it wasnt for the DUI we might not have even heard about this.
He was driving down Main St in freeking Clawson, going 20 over. How many times out of ten are you going to make it through without getting a ticket?
Are you saying it's ok to speed but Jalen isn't living up to the Michigan Man persona by getting caught?
Actually, yes, I did read the article before commenting. Im sorry I dont know the exact area he was pulled over, but unless it was in a school zone with the lights flashing then I dont really care. He chose to speed, while sober and he paid for it. Its not like he was cited for reckless op for being a hazard on the road. Unreal.
have some kind of impact on his sentence, probably not, but it could.
And where was he driving to, restricted license I assume. Don't be surprised if Judge Sledgehammer "unsuspends" the rest of the 93 day sentence.
Somebody get this man out of vehciles and back to narrating documentaries where he belongs.
Seems he’s in a hurry, to permanently lose his driving privileges, causing him to hire a driver, just doing his part to create jobs in Michigan.
WHO GIVES A SHIT.
He was going 20 MPH over the speed limit. Which means he was going under 100 MPH - 90 MPH tops. Who here hasn't done 20 over the speed limit? Come on....
Get my facts straight? What part of my post was incorrect? I only stated a worst case assumption (90 in a 70). Only fact I stated was from the article (20 MPH over).
Really we should be mad at the OP. Who cares and no summary. Crap job.
So I take it you hadn't read the article, because otherwise it would make no sense for you to say 90 tops. Anyway, the article has now been updated, and my assumption about the speed limit was correct:
Clawson Police Chief Harry Anderson told the Associated Press that Rose, a former University of Michigan basketball star and NBA player, was clocked going 46 miles per hour in a 25 mile-per-hour zone Wednesday night. He was given a citation at 8:47 p.m. for going 10 miles per hour over the limit.
I completely agree with you about the OP. There have been way too many posts lately where people rushed to start a thread--probably from a phone--and provided little more than a link.
Wow I am amazed at a lot of the reactions to this SPEEDING TICKET. Did I miss the part in the article were Jalen got another dui? It is a speeding ticket. Who on this board has not ever gotten a speeding ticket? Come on people to be angry over the dui is understandable no one should drink and drive. But this is a freaking speeding ticket.
I have never recieved a speeding ticket, nor a DUI.
You'd be surprised how many people have never received a speeding ticket.
Are you one of them that has never gotten one? This is only a guess but I would bet that the precentage of people who have gotten at least one speading ticket and have been driving for lets say over 15 years would be around 75%.
The point is that a speading ticket isn't a federal offence. If we tried to disqualify every person who has a speeding ticket or even a speeding ticket and a dui from philanthropy we would be cutting out a large amount of people from doing good even though they may have made some errors. It makes no sense at all.
I'm done after this, since it seems my point is completely not being received.
A: No, I've never got a speeding ticket. Not that it matters at all. I've been lucky to not get caught.
B: My point never was that Jalen shouldn't be a philantrophist. Just maybe not in a way that requires him to be a leader to 14-18 year olds if he is having his own legal issues. In my posts I've pointed out that I think he should consider removing his name, but I hope he continues to donate and raise money for the school and I hope he is able to reach some kids with his stories. Maybe he'll be able to do better now.
Going 55 in the left hand lane of the expressway.
Wow guy’s going 55 in the left hand lane; I have tried so many times to communicate with them using hand gestures. But I never imagined I would be able to read their communications on line. It‘s amazing just being able to get a small glimpse into the inner workings of their minds.
"Main Street" in Clawson is Livernois. And on both Livernois, and on E. 14 Mile Road, you have to slow down in Clawson. It is a speed trap.
As someone who sternly said about Stonum, "That is NOT mere bad luck," I now say; a 10-over offense in Clawson is assuredly "Merely bad luck."
But everyone gets bogus tickets, it's luck of the draw. I got a parking ticket in Ann Arbor for not being 20 feet from a crosswalk, where the sign "no parking from here to the corner" on the opposite side of the street is only 10 feet away from the crosswalk. Never saw a parking speed trap before. We don't have a shortage of cops...we have too many assigned to try and make money for the city rather than, oh, I don't know, finding rapists. (And I'm guessing the officers signed up to do the latter rather than be told to do the former).
Having been to Clawson, I can understand the need to speed to get to anywhere else. My apologies for those of you who are/have been stuck in Clawson.
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My girlfriend recently got a ticket at the same spot. There's like a two block stretch where the speed limit is 10mph slower then the entire rest of livernois/main.
unless you drive it everyday if a cop around you're probably gonna get a ticket. This isn't a big deal just really bad timing.
I heard Jalen Rose might also sometimes enjoy to have sex. And this is the man doing good things for children? Jailtime is too soft. Public stoning is more adequate.