3 star recruits

Submitted by sedieso on
Using the star rating from rivals.com, out of all the 3 star commits they have listed for us, who do you guys think will make the biggest impact, both immediately and long term? In my opinion it is Isaiah Bell. He will provide good depth at the LB or safety position and according to many gurus the guy has fluid hips and good coverage skills, and will provide good speed especially at the lb position. Thoughts?

chitownblue (not verified)

January 11th, 2009 at 9:17 AM ^

Bell seems to be slightly more guru-approved than most 3-stars, seeing as he got picked for the UA game, etc. Vincent Smith strikes me as an extremely talented player whose ranking revolves more around his stature than his talent (it's difficult to get 4 stars when you're the size of a pebble). I don't think Smith will be an "instant impact" type, as his two possible destinations (slot, RB) have a considerable amount of competition right now, but I think we'll see good things from him before he's done.

Seth

January 11th, 2009 at 1:22 PM ^

Here's the 3-stars recruited to Michigan from 2005-2008: I've put in bold those who became top contributors. Chris Richards James Rogers Troy Woolfolk Carson Butler Chris McLaurin Zoltan Mesko Mark Ortmann Perry Dorrestein David Cone Vince Helmuth Obi Ezeh Johnny Sears Artis Chambers Quintin Woods Greg Banks John Ferrara Brandon Logan Kurt Wermers Tim McAvoy Mark Huyge Jason Forcier Avery Horn Justin Feagin Renaldo Sagesse Brandon Herron Quintin Patilla David Molk Rocko Khoury Mike Cox Mister Simpson Junior Hemingway Martavious Odoms LaTerryal Savoy Zion Babb Steve Watson Obviously, the jury is still out on a lot of these guys (especially the RS freshman linemen). Some (Ezeh, Ferrara) became early contributors due more to circumstance than ability. Anyway, taking that into account I think you can say about 1 in 4 of these guys will be top contributors. Many became so because of circumstance, or get their chance and shine. But even so, these players, while certainly assets to the team, mostly seem to retain the flaws that affected their rankings in the first place. Odoms and Molk are mites for their positions. Hemingway lacks breakaway speed. Only two really ended up being better than projections, and both had good reason. One, Zoltan Mesko is a punter, and they don't give punters (even ones that moonlight as Romanian space emperors) more than 3 stars. The other is Carson Butler, who Lloyd identified on signing day as the most likely diamond in the rough. Carson did show more than 3-star talent, but at a different position than the one he was projected for (defensive line). And if Lloyd said the kid had too much talent for a 3-star, you have to wonder if Butler's attitude was the cause of his underrating. That being said, I think the chances are best that of our 2009 3-stars, circumstance will allow one or two to become contributors with a certain obvious flaw, while as many transfer away and the rest ride the bench.

Magnus

January 11th, 2009 at 1:52 PM ^

It's WAY too early to be judging the contribution of many of these guys. Also, I'm assuming you used Scout, because several of these guys were 4-stars according to Rivals. Anyway, Rogers, Woofolk, Ferrara, Feagin, Sagesse, and a couple others might still be consistent contributors. On top of that, I'm not sure what makes you think Hemingway doesn't have breakaway speed - was it his deep TD catch against Utah or his inability to outrun mononucleosis that convinced you of that?

Seth

January 11th, 2009 at 2:05 PM ^

Yeah, certainly it's way too early on those guys we mentioned. I thought I said that. Hemingway comes from my own general perceptions, Brian's UFRs, and he being among the cavalcade of possession receivers tagged as a Jason Avant in his YMRMFSPA description. This is all from memory -- I didn't go back and look. I'd rather be wrong on this than right.

baorao

January 11th, 2009 at 7:05 PM ^

defensive player of the year (or maybe player of the year) for the division Pahokee plays in. I think thats the small school division, because IIRC there was a mention about how Michigan has pulled the winner of that award two years in a row (Feagin last year, Vincent Smith or Hawthorne this year).