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07/21/2018 - 7:49pm we went to dessous earlier…

we went to dessous earlier this month for my birthday. it's melange reinvented, as of june - same owners, but they have brought in eve as a consulting chef, from my understanding. it was very, very good. the atmosphere on a friday night got a bit noisier as it got later (they have a live band over by the bar on weekends) so not as quiet and romantic as, say, the earle, but good ambiance and we highly enjoyed everything we got - appetizer, entrees and dessert. service was good, but low key - i think they make an effort to not be too fussy or pretentious. we will definitely be going back.

11/07/2017 - 1:37pm mini-van (!) though not for a

mini-van (!) though not for a couple years, unless our 2001 honda civic goes first. seems like they have improved a lot as a class and i hear positive things about several (odyssey, sienna) but curious if there were any deciding factors that pushed people towards one or another, and if they have been happy with it.

04/18/2017 - 9:38pm thanks

those were good reads. we're ultimately practical people, so feels like we're minivan bound. sounds like things are better than the aerostar days, though.

04/18/2017 - 4:59pm we started out looking at the

we started out looking at the crosstrek (as in, certain that's what we would buy if we got a subaru). and i had made fun of my sister and brother-in-law for getting an outback, since they seemed so huge. but then we opened the trunk of the crosstrek and.... it's just so tiny. of course, the salesman had a forester at a really good price if we wanted to test drive that - which we did, and felt like, maybe the space would be nice. the next time we went to the dealership, driving an outback seemed like a good idea - and were just hooked by the space. but we go up north at least every few months with a bike, and now with a kid have other junk to take, so it's worked out really well for us. but if we didn't have a kid, i think we would have gone with the crosstrek.

04/18/2017 - 1:24pm it will probably be a few years

but next car for us will most likely be a minivan or third row suv when we decide trying to put three car seats across is ridiculous. i grew up with ford aerostars until they came out with the windstar and i'm a little scarred, so i have a fantasy about avoiding a minivan but seems like that's what most people end up with. anyone get a minivan and wish they got something different? anyone get a third row suv and wish they got a minivan? anything coming down the pipeline that is intriguing?

04/18/2017 - 1:18pm just got an outback

we just got an outback last june, so we've been thru one winter with it. we actually got some input from these threads before we bought, and got the same advice - just get winter tires! and i have no doubt everyone is right and knows what they're talking about - but man. the awd. it was such a difference driving in the snow. i grew up in michigan, feel pretty comfortable driving in snow and ice, and i had a car that i thought handled reasonably well in the snow. but driving the outback just made it feel like weather was a non-issue when considering going out. it felt really comfortable and responsive, no matter the conditions. and... why not just have awd AND winter tires? also, the space is wonderful for taking a bunch of gear up north (both outdoor and baby related for us)

10/26/2016 - 11:57am awww

have to jump in and offer a different perspective as a wife, since i think my husband enjoys his game days with his family. as this is our first football season with a baby (8 months), they aren't quite 'traditions', but.... zingerman's coffee and pastries for a late breakfast, watch the game if it's at noon, go out for a walk if it's later, hope the baby takes long naps during the game, laugh when he invariably doesn't, look forward to the day when we aren't trying to prevent him from looking at the screen all the time and he hopefully wants to watch the game too (most two year olds like watching a football game, right?)

09/01/2016 - 9:46pm petoskey

we're in petoskey for the weekend - any advice? we have our 6 month old with us, so looking for something a bit family-friendly (also our first season figuring out how watching football with a baby works).

08/02/2016 - 8:23am congratulations!! we're five

congratulations!! we're five months in with our first - best thing ever.

07/04/2016 - 9:07am i do love my concrete.

i do love my concrete.

07/04/2016 - 9:05am yeah, i just embrace the

yeah, i just embrace the etching. and try to work with the more acidic foods on the concrete perimeter, but i'm not super uptight about it.

07/04/2016 - 9:04am my mom has had white laminate

my mom has had white laminate in her kitchen forever, with a butcher block island. they re-did some of the kitchen a few years back, and she went with white laminate again. it's so durable and cleans up really nicely with a mildly abrasive cleaner. not the trendiest/most beautiful thing, but really hardworking. 

07/03/2016 - 10:57pm how do you reheat coffee? or

how do you reheat coffee? or spaghetti?

07/03/2016 - 10:56pm marble


06/07/2016 - 4:43pm yeah, it's the last year they

yeah, it's the last year they offered a manual on the outback. my understanding is the reason they don't anymore is to meet fuel efficiency requirements, as  the manual transmission added too much weight - but don't quote me. the forester and crosstrek still both have a manual trim level.

06/07/2016 - 2:03pm hey jeepin' ben

just wanted to thank you, as well as hatter, skurnie, swan flu, ghostofhoke and dr jaws for weighing in last week on subaru/other options for a crossover-ish family car. in case it's interesting to hear the resolution (i know a lot of people ask advice in tct threads about buying a car), we found the unicorn - a 2014 manual outback - and bought it saturday. my contribution to #savethemanuals. and i'm pretty sure this means i can just drive however i want in the snow since it's awd, right? i hear it's especially good for helping you stop.



05/31/2016 - 2:12pm when you say better off with

when you say better off with the third pedal - do you mean the benefit of, say, downshifting to get up a slippery hill outweighs 4wd? i've only ever owned manuals and never had 4wd so i have no experience comparing, but i feel like i use the manual transmission in snow in ways that help me that i wouldn't be able to with an automatic - but i'm not really a car person, so i don't know if there are better words to articulate what i'm saying or if it's not as much of a benefit as i imagine it to be. and i feel like the 4wd debate is confusing - i hear people saying the majority of drivers don't need it, just get good snow tires, but there are definitely people who have it on their every day car and love it for weather conditions. are they just imagining a benefit? is there any sort of objective testing on 2wd/good tires vs 4wd?

05/31/2016 - 1:36pm if only i had a nickel for

if only i had a nickel for every time someone told us to get a minivan.... though it seems like most people who say it don't own minivans themselves.

the plan is for this to be the primary car for kids/vacation until a minivan is necessary. we currently have two older civics ('97 and '01), so when we find our unicorn of a car (did i mention i'd really like it to be a manual?), we'll get rid of the '97, keep the '01 for an in-town work commute, and then sell it once we get a minivan.

pretty sure the rule only applies to original owner. hence used.

05/31/2016 - 1:15pm wife here

as far as the space we need, we do lots of trips around the state, and while we had stuff we liked to take before (biking, water sports), with a baby there's just so much more. we want a car that can handle all that, as well as another kid(s) at some point in the future. we test drove a cross trek, and it just doesn't seem to have enough space. plus, a real downside for me is how most cars now seem to have such poor visibility out the back with teardrop shaped windows, which was true in the crosstrek but not the outback or forester. (we also test drove a mazda cx-5, which i really liked, but had similar rear visiblity issues and had less cargo space). 

as far as needing 4wd.... eh. we both have civics that are fantastic in the snow, which seems to be a result of how the weight is balanced over the car. there have been situations where higher clearance would have been helpful, and maybe 4wd? for me, it's more of a question of if subaru outback/forester ticks all the other boxes better than other cars (reliability, cargo space, availability, price) and then the 4wd is a bonus, of which we'll see how useful it is?

budget would be $15,000-20,000, looking at used, 2010 and onward. 

05/11/2016 - 10:36am only home workout

this is the only home workout where i felt like it was close to as intense as working out with a trainer:


it's free, you can search by many different metrics (time, difficulty level, equpment, body area, technique) and they are legit good work outs (ametuer opinion, based on working out with a trainer for 3 year and trying various home workout methods). it really helped for me because my biggest obstacles to working out at home were/are boredom and getting off track if i was doing a method (e.g., oh, i didn't do the video yesterday, might as well give up until next week). no matter what time i had or how i was feeling, i could find something to do on here. you can come up with your own weekly outine, do whatever you're feeling on a day to day basis, or pay a bit of money for a structured plan.

02/23/2016 - 12:42pm malfunction in the UP

in high school i drove a ford escape across a chunk of the up (cedarville to houghton). i had cruise control on for those 55mph, 2 lane roads with no traffic on them, but started noticing my speed kept creeping up. turned cruise control off, no change. i pulled over on the side of the road, which caused the brakes to smell horrible, and called ford (it was a lease car). they told me my fastest bet was to continue on into marquette to a ford dealer and have it checked out, as we were in the middle of nowhere and a tow truck would take an eternity. that was fine for the time we continued on the two lane roads, but trying to drive through marquette was too much for my 16 year old nerves at that point - sitting at every stop light, the engine continuosly revved and the car smelled like burning rubber. so the dealership came and towed the car. turns out the connection to the gas wasn't disengaging after the crusie control had been turned on (a car person could explain this much better, i am sure), therefore the continuous acceleration. they were able to fix it in a couple hours and we continued on our way to houghton. 

as an aside - anyone have any tips for negotiating a used car price at a dealership? think we may be close to pulling the trigger, but don't have any experience with car buying.

02/14/2016 - 8:08pm my husband is getting dinner

my husband is getting dinner together so i can read mgoblog. pretty good valentine's day.

01/28/2016 - 9:16am apparently

apparently yes. 

01/28/2016 - 9:04am wait

So in honor of that and Brian's new addition, let's talk some ideas for Michigan legacy baby names!

did i miss something?

01/19/2016 - 5:25pm I had looked at the

I had looked at the countryman but was turned off by consumer report's low ranking of brand reliability. Wasn't sure if they have a generally good/poor reputation.

01/19/2016 - 3:22pm late to the party....

but i'll throw in a request for advice as well.....

we're expecting our first baby in a few weeks and have been looking at getting a more baby friendly car. we're drive cars into the ground type of people - we currently have a '97 civic with 160k and a '01 civic with almost 200k on it. we're looking for a hatchback AWD, 2010 or more recent, around $20,000, reasonably compatible with a car seat. we'd really like to have a manual transmission as well. the majority of driving would probably be short distances in town (ann arbor), with a few road trips a year. from what i've been looking at, a subaru crosstrek seems to fit the bill pretty well. anyone have any other suggestions?

11/16/2015 - 10:02pm there is also some interesting research

there is also some interesting research about the health benefits of full fat dairy products coming out.…

obviously it doesn't help for people who are lactose intolerant, but i don't think we can say 'milk is actually far from the healthiest option'. there is so much about metabolism we don't understand.

09/21/2015 - 2:17pm there was another one

there was a ponderosa on stadium, near liberty. it's gourmet garden now. (not actually relevant to the topic, but just for historical accuracy :)

09/06/2015 - 2:05pm this.

21 years olds should be idealistic and think they can change the world, making them a bit insufferable to be around at times. at least he's thinking and trying. the cynicism and apathy comes for too many too quickly. and he's even taken it beyond normal college-age idealism of sitting around in coffee shops and talking about things - he actually built something and is trying out this lifestyle. i would guess it will teach him some things, most of all that very little in this life is simple. but bravo to him for trying it out - and it would be really interesting to have a follow up interview in a year or two.

09/01/2015 - 5:54pm i think yost deserves the credit

granted, bo's quote about a michigan man is much more well known, but yost used the term in speeches. this is probably the best known one:

"My heart is so full at this moment, I fear I could say little else. But do let me reiterate the Spirit of Michigan. It is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways. An enthusiasm that makes it second nature for Michigan Men to spread the gospel of their university to the world's distant outposts. And a conviction that nowhere, is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours."

this is what i think of when i think of a michigan man - it doesn't matter where you came from, went to school, who you coached under - 'getting it' is getting how wonderful michigan is, which anyone from any background can get, therefore getting rid of that inbred nonsense. 

08/23/2015 - 2:20pm from our time there

my understanding is that it's b.c the unroasted beans are all sent to roasters out of country, and there are very few people who know how to roast in country. we visited a small plantation near atenas run by a family who have taught themselves how to roast and are trying to actually sell some costa rican coffee in costa rica. the guy who gave us the tour said that historically, only the very lowest quality beans were kept in country, to the point that supermarket coffee is often pre-mixed with sugar as it isn't really drinkable on it's own. we also had a fantastic cup of coffee in monteverde prepared with a chorreador (costa rican pour over). i think it's the best cup of coffee i've had in my life. so hopefully things are changing and great costa rican coffee will be available in costa rica. 

08/23/2015 - 2:03pm i'll jump in

we went to costa rica for our honeymoon in fall of 2013 and had an absolutely amazing time. we started by dominical over on the pacific coast, so i'm thinking that's south of where you'll be. regardless, there is no problem with not knowing spanish. my husband and i both had taken spanish in high school, but we didn't need it - everyone spoke english or there was someone close by who did. we rented a car and moved around a bit, which was very easy and really enjoyable to see some other parts of the country. it's amazing the variety in landscape and climate in such a small area. tell your wife it's going to be great - a super friendly, beautiful country who does the tourism thing extremely well. 

06/24/2015 - 5:14pm headed up to lake superior

headed up to lake superior tomorrow. sans passport, unfortunately. we'd love to get to some of the more remote regions of the UP, especially the porkies, but the central UP was about as far as we could go from A2 this time. this thread just provides further motivation to make the effort in the near future, though.

06/24/2015 - 5:11pm we're staying in brimley, so

we're staying in brimley, so munising is an option, but we want to balance time in the car with actually being somewhere. looks like the area north of newberry you're referring to is the newberry state forest area? 

06/23/2015 - 10:08pm we're going to be at

we're going to be at tahquemenon on friday for a day hike. we've done the paved trail to the falls several times, but finally have time to explore other parts of the park. any recommendations?

05/06/2015 - 10:17pm 31
Yes - '06 and




Yes - '06 and '13

Made a "Navarre for Heisman" sign and hung it outside his house the night before the OSU game so he would wake up and see it. Later realized they slept in a hotel. The black shoe polish we used to make the sign stained my parents driveway for the next five years.   

04/28/2015 - 9:53pm i think the subaru

i think the subaru commercials are worse - incredibly emotional manipulative. the implication being that if you don't own a subaru, you hate your kids, the enviroment and are essentially a sociopath.

04/28/2015 - 1:58pm have you ever mixed it with

have you ever mixed it with their soft serve? it's amazing.

04/28/2015 - 1:54pm psh

aeropress or chorreador. faster, taste just as good/better and the grounds are SO much easier to clean up.

01/13/2015 - 10:53am wasn't thinking i'd find a thread

wasn't thinking i'd find a thread to post this in, but mgoblog never disappoints. we're heading up for a short trip to arcadia this weekend and are looking for cross country skiing areas. anyone know of good places around there? we're not terribly experienced, but have both done it before and are reasonably fit. we'd need to rent equipment. 

10/12/2014 - 5:18pm i can tell you how it was

i can tell you how it was when i worked there - it may have changed. thursday night was the night the athletes visited. a group of michigan athletes would walk around room to room, signing hats and talking to the kids. as far as i know, there was a group for every floor and they tried to visit every room, but if a kid was sleeping, had a doctor in the room, was in isolation precautions, etc. they may miss the visit. the vast majority of the time, the athletes were not football/basketball - i met people from golf, softball, baseball, track, cross country, etc. if your friend was there over a thursday, i would be fairly certain they met some athletes.

my story from the golf weekend was the first time it was officially the hutch/griese/woodson deal. the visit to mott was kind of unofficial - some guys were going to do it, and they invited anyone who wanted to come up. since they had such a strong response, it was more organized the next year and i think they had the players all together in one room, where patients could go and visit, with a much smaller contigent walking around and paying quick visits to the patients who couldn't leave their rooms.

one year after the red wings won the stanley cup, one of the players (can't remember who!) decided to bring it up to mott during the time he had it. they kinda just took it room to room. it was pretty cool.

10/12/2014 - 4:28pm few stories

i have told all these before, but i think they are worth repeating. i worked as a nurse at mott from 2006-2013 and had the pleasure of seeing the joy athletes can bring to sick kiddos and their families.

1.  when hutch/griese/woodson started 'officially' hosting the golf outing, there was an unofficial visit to mott over the weekend. they invited anyone who wanted to come, but didn't expect many. they ended up with a lot - enough to have a sizable group of players on each floor, when they expected to have just one group. i watched steve hutchinson talking with a dad whose son would die within the next few weeks. i was amazed how warm and kind he was, reaching out to this dad going through something unimaginable. i saw a family that had been there for months have something to finally get excited about - and then their son ended up in a commercial with charles woodson. but the most impressive thing did not end up in a newspaper article or on tv. there was a teenage boy who had had heart surgery - that didn't work. he had to go back for a second surgery during the same visit, and it seemed like he was having a rough time emotionally (very understandably). the players talked with him for a while, and asked what he had been doing to pass the time. he told them he had been playing video games (on a system that had been donated by the funds raised by the football group) but couldn't play as much as he liked, b.c there was one for the floor. later that day, a guy came back with a bag for him - they had gone out and bought him a nintendo DS, along with several games. i cannot tell you the difference it made to this kid that michigan football alumni had gotten him a nintendo DS. 

2. so seeing football players at mott is a lot of fun, but it generally happens when they come up as a group or as part of the griese/hutchinson/woodson weekend. one friday before a home game during zoltan's senior year, i was walking down the hallway at mott and this tall guy was walking in the opposite direction. i knew i recognized him, but of course couldn't place him until right after i passed him. it was zoltan mesko. that's my lasting memory of him - the kind of guy who took the time (during his busiest time of year) to visit a child in the hospital, without any fanfare or recognition. 

3. i came upon lloyd carr looking a little lost in the hallway - he was looking for a patient and didn't know where to go. i walked him over the the area he was looking for. i was super excited to get to talk to him. but the entire time he was asking ME questions.  with the couple words i did manage to get in, i thanked him for coming up, since visits from lloyd or the players lift spirits (of both patients and parents) in ways that we can't. he brushed it off immediately, saying that it's nothing compared to the work that is done by the health care team. i told him it was an honor to meet him - and he said it was an honor to meet me. i'm not a physician, i'm not a high up administrator - i'm a nurse that happened to be in the right place at the right time to walk him over so he could brighten someone's day. and on the way over, he completely made my day as well. 


08/21/2014 - 10:14pm i'll just throw in that the

i'll just throw in that the national parks in alaska felt completely different than other US national parks i have visited. instead of instructing you about all the different rules, dangers, limitations, etc., the signs advised how to react to a bear (try to fight a black bear, play dead if it's a brown bear). you can get dropped off in the middle of denali national park and they encourage you not to follow where others have gone, so that paths aren't created. it was pretty remarkable how different it felt.

04/28/2014 - 9:44pm no religon.

no religon.

04/18/2014 - 11:38am planning to start my first

planning to start my first vegetable garden this spring - can you point me in the direction of the southeastern michigan specific stuff? so far i've been reading general stuff and i'm afraid what i'm learning won't apply in this climate. good luck with the project!

02/26/2014 - 1:46pm we were state champions.

we were state champions. so.... there's that.

02/25/2014 - 8:07pm not a baller but

i did synchronized swimming in high school.

02/24/2014 - 1:17pm this from their main

this from their main site:


MSU ALERT: At 1:00pm we had a report of a person with a gun at Bessey Hall. MSUPD found a person using a training weapon and there is no threat.

12/16/2013 - 6:37pm i scrolled down the comments

i scrolled down the comments just to find this one. i feel like i win for knowing someone else would notice the aim and comment on it.

08/27/2013 - 1:04pm we're going to be in ithaca

we're going to be in ithaca this weekend for a family wedding. it's early, so there is a good chance we will be able to catch some/all of the game. is there a way i can find out how it will be broadcast in ithaca, if at all? i'm not sure we'll have the ability to make it to little joe's, though that would be fun, but we'll have access to a television.