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04/25/2016 - 3:27pm Living outside Michigan

I was in Virginia in 2009 working on my Master's Degree and was starving for any info on Michigan football. I found the site then. At first I was confused by all the inside langauge and strange blog titles, but I pressed on because it was the most comprehensive site to get my Michigan football info. If I wasn't out of state I may not have been able to get past some of the more esoteric elements of the site, so luckily I found it at the right time. I have visited the site almost every single day since. 

Also, somehow even when the program was down in 2009 under RichRod, I was still able to see almost every game with just basic cable in Virginia of all places. Truly showed how national a brand Michigan is.

02/05/2016 - 9:48pm Thanks everyone

I have had my head buried in work, so I haven't been able to keep up with all the interviews of today and everything from NSD. I appreciate the OP and all of you who took time to embed links. Makes life a little easier and more fun when I can get my fill of Harbaugh in one thread.

09/12/2015 - 3:35pm Our defense is good. If our

Our defense is good. If our offense can control the ball like they did in the 2nd half our defense will be very good.

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07/01/2015 - 2:26pm Referring to Ohio State fans

Referring to Ohio State fans as juggalos is as hilarious and apt a parallel as anyone could have chosen. Bravo, Sir. You have made my day.

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02/27/2015 - 10:38am Yada Yada is not always better

"Yeah. I met this lawyer, we went out to dinner, I had the lobster bisque, we went back to my place, yada yada yada, I never heard from him again."

02/24/2015 - 1:49pm MAAR seems to be on a Levert type trajectory.

He has been much more than expected, much sooner than expected. I would not be surprised to see him make a big leap next year after he has an offseason to develop more and process the season. 

I can eaily see him leaving early, if he continues to grow like he has. I would say anything past Jr year would be a plus.

02/24/2015 - 1:43pm I am sure this has been discussed so pardon my ignorance.

I still do not understand why we struggle with recruiting. I appreciate what the squad has done and they are fighters without a doubt, but where are the big names? It seems like we either develop lower level guys, or get big time recruits that have lost a little shine during the process (McGary). Is it that we are perceived as a football school? Is it that we don't often take the one and done types? Are the bag men so strong in college basketball, that you can't recruit without one?

Seems to me like we develop players as well as any program in the country. I would think that big time recruits would want to come for a year or two and polish their game here. Is a guy who goes to Kentucky, really going to make as big a leap in their prowess and knowledge as a recruit who comes to Michigan? Beyond that, Michigan has had recent success in the tournament. So if winning is your deciding factor, you get that at Michigan as well.

I am not trying to be cheeky. I am serious, I must be missing something here, because our basketball recruiting leaves me puzzled.

02/20/2015 - 3:38pm Wish I could more.

I average once every couple days. Which is too bad. This is really a great site, however by the time I am able to comment on most things, the discussion has usually moved one, hence my lack of points. 

But the recruiting info here is outstanding, the articles are informative (I saw Brian's recap of his Brandon article, there was no need for him to explain himself in any way, that article was masterful) and the board while a bit snarky does a good job of policing itself.

Not to get too cheesy, but the quality of this site speaks to the quality of the fanbase. Compared to some other fan boards, we have about as articulate and well informed a base of fanatics as possible.

02/13/2015 - 2:50pm If Hoke had a bad eye than so did everyone else.

Besides the year of transition, every Hoke class was well regarded by both the recruiting services and other schools as evidenced by the offer sheets most of these kids had. Regardless college football is littered with 5 and 4 star players who never make a significant contribution to their team. Scouting and recruiting is an art not a science. Many top level teams have big time recruits, who they expected plenty of, sitting on their benches. You can't hit on every player.

If Hoke had a bad eye with some guys, then you have to believe the inverse with others. Guys like Kovacs and Jake Ryan come to mind. Both were players seen as MAC guys that played above all expectations.

I do not buy the idea that the cupboard is barren, that is why I am bullish on a good year next year. We have depth issues, a question at QB and a lack of playmakers in the skill positions. All those can be handled with a little luck and some good coaching.

Hoke was an excellent recruiter, a good man and beloved by his players and the University. He did not excel in delegation, time management and player deveolpment. Hence the sloppy play that surrounded our team. I believe Harbaugh will rectify this and I also believe it is way too early to dismiss a kid who hasn't played to his potential. Some are late bloomers.

Hoke was also too stubborn for his own good. I may literally get goosebumps the first time I see Harbaugh wearing a headset on the sidelines.

01/30/2015 - 5:02pm As an ordained Minister.

I can assure you the Lord is a Michigan fan. 

01/26/2015 - 10:08pm Shut it down?

Hell no. We can still piece together a top 30 class in 2015 if we have a good NSD. That may not be great, but given the circumstances it is better than shuting it down and looking to 2016.

Harbaugh is going after some big game. He may miss, but at least he is taking a shot. I like that we are trying to flip recruits. I like that we are going to California and Texas. Recruit National footprint.

It fits Harbagugh to be the bully. Yeah, we want your recruits, the ones in your back yard, the ones you had sown up. We aren't afraid to make it known either. You know what it takes to win? Big properly inflated balls. Harbaugh has them. We might be underdogs with recruits this year, but we still fight.  

This is Michigan, we do not shut it down. We fight you tooth and nail for every yard, every basket, every goal.

12/02/2014 - 4:52pm Michigan Man is dead according to Hackett.

Good now let Michigan Man mean what Bo originally intended.

10/27/2014 - 11:10pm I don't get it.

It seems like everyone says Harbauh won't come back because he hasn't won a Super Bowl and he is ultra competitive. Wasn't Nick Saban the same way? His stay with the Dolphins was rather short. Sure he lost more than he had before, but that wasn't the main rub. He didn't have control over the players or organization like he had as a college coach. Harbaugh seems to be getting rubbed the wrong way by the same thing. Why wouldn't Harbaugh want to come somewhere where he could win it all and also have total control of the program? Saban seems to like the challenge and his current situation just fine. I don't hear anyone knocking him for it.

If Harbaugh is that obessed with Carrol getting something he doesn't have, then why didn't he stay at Stanford to get a MNC first? Then he would have actually had a head up on Carroll who did it at USC as opposed to a school like Stanford. Besides, if Harbaugh needs a mortal enemy, I am sure he can make one out of Urban.

I am more worried that he can coach another pro team that will give him total control or that his family doesn't want to move back East.

10/27/2014 - 10:54pm I am with you 100%

I think those 4 names are considered a home run by the general fan base. If we get someone less well known, there will be unease and lackluster support from many. I think we need a big name. Open that check book wide.
I would take John Harbaugh over Jim, but I don't see it happening. I get a sinking feeling that we are gonna be calling Greg Schiano our new coach, and that does not inspire confidence for me. If we go lower than Miles who is 3rd or 4th on most lists, it shows the disconnect between what we think we are and what the rest of the country thinks we are.

Of course, I want a new AD before anything. Hoke we can keep till the last game, but if we don't move on Brandon and get an experienced and highly liked AD soon, our chances of a home run hire are fantasy.

10/09/2014 - 7:47am Oregon

It may take a couple more big losses this season, but I could see Oregon looking for a new head coach. Their current coach is seen as unimaginative, not great at player devolpment and trending downword. Oregon believes it is getting better players now with less results and may want the next hot innovator to step in. It is a long shot, but it would not surprise me.

Oregon football reminds me of one of those pop up stores you see during Halloween. It knows it could easily drop from beig a top 10 program and struggle to ever get back if it does. The Nike money will help them hire anyone they want and take care of any buyout. They are predicated on always being ahead of the curve offensively and since Helfrich isn't meeting those standards, it wouldn't surprise me if his seat is hotter than we realize.


04/16/2014 - 9:02am Not everyone can be the next Caris Levert.

I trust our coaching staff as much as anyone. However, maybe we should stop referring to every unheralded  or too skinny recruit as the next Caris. Caris is his own guy. The team caught a lucky break, even they didn't think he would play his freshman year. So maybe we should stop declaring all these guys the next Levert and let them be them. They have enough on their plate.

04/13/2014 - 9:33am UMHoops

From the story it sounds like Beilein is developing some ties with AAU guys in Indiana, or at least one specifically. Assuming there is nothing shady about that guy, and I would give the honoroable Mr. Beilein, the benefit of the doubt this could be really good. An AAU pipeline out of Indiana would suit our program well. Now maybe we can get a pipeline out of Chicago or somewhere else in the Midwest. Hopeful thoughts.

03/03/2014 - 1:01am Gold is tied to affluence in Asia.

While Gold will never be standard currency again, (unless that doomsday preppers show is right) I think the price has much more to do with the demand in emerging markets like China and India, and since those 2 countries seem to have tremendous upside over the long term, I am not too worried about the stability of gold prices going forward.

Of course stocks on bonds are where to put the majority of one's savings and retirement, just saying that gold seems no more volatile to me than the companies that make up the dow or nasdaq.

03/03/2014 - 12:52am I am suspicous of GLD as well.

Even though they are the ETF I use, I have heard the rumors about them not actually holding physical gold. Can you imagine if that was really the case? Madoff would look like small potatoes.

Luckily a scam that big would lead to serious reforms of our economic checks and balances and recalibrate the fundamentals of our economy like the Madoff scandal did...oh wait.

03/03/2014 - 12:43am My sympathies as well.

I apologize. I also misunderstood your OP. I lost my father a few years ago as well. Only time can heal. Glad you have that memory of him and that you realize what a wonderful thing you have.

Maybe a jeweler is more what you are looking for. If that is the case, I have bought jewelry for loved ones from Lucido's in Sterling Heights (not sure your location) a couple times and I have always been happy with what they produced and their customer service. I believe they can replicate jewelry as well. Just shop around because jewelery is a notoriously high margin business, so you may get some very different prices. Also, don't be afraid to negotiate hard with them, just like a house or a car dealer, jewelry is one of the few areas where you can negotiate really hard. Finally, if you can, find a place that does the work in house, versus sending it out, usually that results in better quality.

All common sense stuff I know, just hope it helps. Best of wishes to you during a difficult time.

03/02/2014 - 6:38pm Is there a brick and mortar store near you?

I am no gold bug, but I do buy gold and silver regularly (try to keep it around 10-15% of my portfolio). I would echo the suggestion that silver may be a better commodity to buy if you are just starting since it is actually very usable (as I understand, it is one of the best conductors of electricity around) and may have a higher upside in the long run. I buy most of my silver in American or Canadian coins, and I buy them from a local coin shop. They come with a little markup, but they are the easiest to unload in a pinch and the most widely trusted.  I am not buying them for any numistatic value but simply as bullion and I also don't plan on selling them for many years, so an extra $1 an ounce doesn't bother me.

That being said, if you don't want to go that route, I sometimes buy 1 oz gold bars online from Apmex. You can find gold cheaper by a fraction elsewhere, but that is not something I am willing to risk. That site has an impeccable reputation and in the half dozen or so transactions I have had with them they have never been anything but relaible. I simply hear too many horror stories about Ebay to ever buying anything from a seller there. Pennywise and poundfoolish, as they say. Finally, you can just buy the gold ETF (GLD). You buy it on paper like you would any stock and it is easily the most liquid way to get in and out of buying gold.


01/25/2014 - 2:33pm You sir have not been paying attention

Dave Brandon will succeed Brady Hoke as head coach.

01/25/2014 - 2:23pm Kiffin!

If a respectable coach had retracted an offer, I could live with it, but the fact that it was Kiffin, makes me dislike the move (if that is indeed what happens). It is almost as if Kiffin can't help but be a villian. I also don't get this charisma that the guy has in recruiting. He talks in a monotone, says dumb stuff all the time, and seems to be staring mindlessly into space whenever he is talking to someone. He is like a perfectly programed jerk robot.

01/25/2014 - 2:17pm What I love about College Basketball

is that there is an amazing tournament that decides who will be the champ, and one loss either way, won't be the end of the world. What seed we get in the tournament and what region we are in matter a little, but only to a certain level.

So who cares about our ranking, last year we were the pick de jour to be upset in the first round, and everyone had us going down to VCU if we survived the first game, so I will save my speculation for the Football season.

When it comes to basketball, I am more concerned with how the team is progressing as a unit, how individual players are getting better throughout the seasons, and if we are playing our best ball at the right time.

01/25/2014 - 2:09pm WIth all the added offers to

WIth all the added offers to RB's not exactly a shock. WIsh him well and hope he gets quality playing time at Central. Now on to the recruiting speculation and what this means for Michigan in the future.

01/20/2014 - 12:25pm Sherman is great.

However, guys like Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, Darrell Green, Reggie White, Rod Woodson, Steve Largent and about a thousand other guys were better at what they did than Richard Sherman is at what he does and they did it for longer. Even Champ Bailey was the best CB in the game for about 3-4 years. None of them talked like Sherman does. What he does is so over the top that he takes away from his what he does on the field.

I respect a guy who can be great and not shove it in everyone's face. His behavior is childish, he may play like a man on the field, but he acts like a brat off of it.


01/19/2014 - 1:47pm One and done.

I think the one and done crowd, doesn't think about Beiilein and his proven ability to make his players better, trust freshmen with playing time, or his incredible final four run. I think a lot of those guys think about where they can go and get the most attention for a short while before they bolt to the NBA. I also think our coach, doesn't really recruit those guys too hard.  It is totally different than Football recruiting, because of the one and done rule. Having said that, I am fine with us not getting the one year guys. Getting a guy who stays 2 or maybe even 3 years, watching him develop, and gain consistency is great.

The fact that this all happens while Michigan still has great success, makes it especillay pleasurable. I am really happy for guys like Morgan and Horford, who have stepped in for a much more heralded recruit and done well because of their time in the program. I am glad to see Trey Burke surpassing all expectations in the NBA (though I would be much happier if he were doing it in a Pistons uniform), and I am ecstatic that we can trust the evaluation of our coaches. I have totally forgotten about stars and recruit rankings when it comes to basketball. If our coaches like a player, I have full confidence that he will fit our system and excel.

We Michigan fans are often accused of being pompous, well that will soon extend to Basketball, as I think we are doing things the right way. I am also happy that whenever our coach steps down, he will leave the school as a premium destination for whoever follows him.

01/08/2014 - 5:58pm So doe that mean...

that we hire a guy with Devin and his strengths in mind or a guy with Morris/Speight and their abilities in mind? If we hire a manball guy, do we lose another year trying to put square offensive pegs in circles?

01/05/2014 - 5:58pm Worst autocorrect ever.

Unless of course you really hate the guy for some reason and have some personal vendetta and refuse to say his name correctly.

01/03/2014 - 8:13pm No.

I also am not rooting for Bernie Madoff, Satan, or the government of North Korea, and all other bad people/ things. Btw, Ohio is worse than all the things I mentioned.

12/30/2013 - 12:52am You don't need another year of transition or 5 years of excuses

You just hire a guy who does what Hoke does but does it better than Hoke. That is one option. Or you can hire a guy who can win with talent in any system because he knows how to maximize results. That is another option. Or you hire a guy that is brilliant when it comes to one side of the ball to be the head coach and just pay an obscene amount of money to the guy who coordinates the other side of the ball and also happens to be brilliant. These are all options to be a top 25 team next year, and dare I say, in the hunt for a league title.

The problem is the mythology of the Michigan Man has so overtaken the program, that almost none of those type guys would be considered. I fear we may have missed the forest for the trees on that one. Alabama has tons of tradition, yet they hired the ultimate mercenary in Saban, it didn't cost them tradition.

I simply cannot accept that this team doesn't have the raw talent to win a league comprised of teams like Minnesota, Iowa, and a flawed Ohio.

This idea that there has to be more rebuilding and great pain and gnashing of teeth if we hire a new coach is absurd to me. Switch our staff with BOB or Urbz staff right now and double digits wins looks very realistic.

I am all for Hoke getting 2 more years to flush out his vision. But, this season didn't have to go down like this. I think most of us know that in our gut.

12/29/2013 - 1:58pm Your argument is really the only hope at this point.

Hoke does look lost, Borges does look stubborn, Mattison does seems to have regressed, and the players look talented but lost. Even to the casual observer of the season, something seems amiss, a fire has been quenched. This whole seasons leaves one with a question mark. It is just beffudling.

The only hope we have is that Hoke does not look lost next year, but that he someohow takes the ship by the wheel and navigates it perfectly through the season (because he is not getting fired). That Borges and Mattison work out their issues, and that the team looks talented not just physically but mentally. Maybe something "clicks" during the offseason. It has happened before, worst to first and all that. But honestly that is the only hope I have at the moment. There is little to convince me that next year won't be another mediocre year that ends with the departure of Hoke or Brandon and Hoke and a lot more pain and suffering as we lement what we once were.

12/28/2013 - 11:29pm You cant go for it on 4th&3 at the 50.

Glad to see this staff has some hope of actually winning this game. Too early to be desperate. Maybe the D makes the mother of all adjustments and we have a shot in the 2nd half.

12/28/2013 - 11:12pm Did not expect Shane to look this good.

Trying to contain my urge to make him the next great thing, but I am pretty sure he is Tom Brady with a stronger arm.

Is this what Fred Jackson feels like all the time?

12/26/2013 - 1:18pm Ron Wolf

Long time GM for the Packers, and a pretty good one at that, said that if you get half your decisions right you are a good GM, 60% gets you to pretty good, and 70% gets you to great, and that he hadn't seen anyone get past 70%. (paraphrasing here)

Mayhew is not a bd GM, in fact I would be happy with him being our GM for a lot longer.  His drafting along with his free agent finds have been solid enough for us to acquire a baseline of  playoff caliber talent and he seems to be getting better at it with practice.

Schwartz probably was a bad hire, but he also may have been a stepping stone. Like when Gruden climbed the hill Dungy left behind. It could be argued that you needed a guy to get you to the guy who gets you to the Superbowl since there was so much transition needed. Yet to be determined.


12/23/2013 - 4:13pm No assumptions.

However, I am pretty sure that is the same computer Ivan Drago used to become the greatest physical specimen in the world. So I have no problem with it.

12/22/2013 - 7:56pm Double checked the DVR

At the end of regulation when the Lions just sit on the ball to go into overtime and the crowd starts booing, Schwartz seems to look back at them and start swearing/arguing with them. If that is the case, give him the Lane Kiffin treatement and get him out tonight.

Oh and the collapse is another reason to get him out right away, that coupled with the fact that we can get an early jump on the coaching search.

12/17/2013 - 4:50pm Maybe not on him completely.

I do wonder about how catchable some of Stafford's throws are. The screen play to Joique was a good example. I know other recievers in the league will talk about how a QB throws a very catchable ball. With Stafford throwing a lot of fastballs, at all kinds of arm angles, I think it makes it harder for recievers to catch the ball. I think his inconsistency may effect the psyche of some of the recievers.

12/16/2013 - 6:27pm I disagree

I bet this game means something to ultra-competitive Taylor Lewan. He stayed, and I bet he wants to leave with a win. Not to mention the other Seniors.

12/16/2013 - 4:20pm I wouldn't mind Coughlin

My two worries would be that he is a little burned out at this point. He has either been coaching deep in the playoffs or having a tumultuous season every year. I would think both have to wear on a coach, especially in the fishbowl that is NY. He may need a year off just to unwind from it all.

Also, with someone who is as big on organization and discipline as he is (I realize he has mellowed over the years), I would envision a really tough transition. It could get worse before it gets better.

I also, heard that no head coach who has won a Super Bowl with one team, has gone on to win it with the next team he coached. The closest was Bill Parcells. Since winning it all should be our goal, it seems like another thing we would have to overcome. I get sick of hearing all the talk of...the Lions haven't won in Philadelphia since (insert year)...or the Lions haven't won a playoff game on the road in (insert year)...and all the other ridiculous things this team is supposed to overcome like most of these guys were on those teams.

And to answer the original question, if we don't win the division this year, there is no way we should come back with the same coaching staff, the roster is good enough at this point to win a weak, injury riddled division. Let's start the Jon Gruden to Detroit rumors, because they are coming if we don't make the playoffs.

12/16/2013 - 3:35am If I had my druthers

I would rather go 7-5 and win the last game of the regular season, than 9-3 and lose the last regular season game. I realize you didn't say it was an either/or, I just wanted to make sure everyone knows how much I hate the Buckeyes. Beat Ohio.

12/16/2013 - 3:21am Debatable?

So now it is our fault that there was no BCS or Playoff in '97? We won every game, against a difficult schedule, that was all their was to do then. Besides, we don't have to go back to '97. In 2006 we were one Shawn Crable dumb late hit penalty from being in the National Championship Game, and we also happened to be winning a lot between 1997-2006, not to mention a BCS win 2 seasons ago.

We misfired on one coach, and had some lean years because of it. You guys have missed on every coach since Lou Holtz, and even he has been reduced to a lame talking head, with a lisp and too many stale motivational one liners. If we are living in the past...well pot meet kettle. You better hope Brian Kelly is not a one year wonder ala Tyrone Willingham, because despite his big red spittle oozing sideline demeanor, he is a very good coach, and if he can't pull you out of the mediocrity you have been mired in for the last 2 1/2 decades your program may be past saving.

However, if Hoke is indeed who we think he is, and recruiting holds pat, our players will develop just like they did back in '97. People forget that we are playing with a patchwork of young kids, and even the upper classmen weren't guys that were condsidered anything special. Go look at the offer sheets for guys like Jake Ryan, Desmond Morgan, or Jeremy Gallon, not exactly a list of premier schools. So despite all of the complaining on this board, this staff has shown they can develop talent. Our relevancy won't be something that NBC has to pump up. People forget that USC, Oklahoma, Alabama, and many other storied programs had lost decades. Michigan by comparison has been the model of consistency for many years.

Yeah I hate waiting for next year and I hate how much we talk about it, but I would rather root for a Michigan team that drives me mad and plays their hearts out, like they did this year, than a program that chronically underachieves. Give me a Denard Robinson or a Devin Gardner gutting it out and leaving every ounce of effort on the field, over guys who make up online girlfriends and look scared to tackle when they do make it to National Championship, or QB's that can't pass a test without a cheat sheet.

Now don't get me started on the scumbags to the south of us.

12/16/2013 - 2:42am Dare to dream my friend.

Dare to dream.

12/15/2013 - 3:32pm I don't see MSU as a destination school.

It is a stop on the road to a destination school. I don't know what Dantonio's goals are but if he wants to be a guy who could compete for a National Championship on any kind of a regular basis, he has to leave MSU.

12/12/2013 - 12:17am He looks like

half of the ND team from the movie Rudy.

12/12/2013 - 12:12am How about the road is a Hoke problem.

Instead of putting it on Al, Hoke is ultimately accountable for this. I even remember a quote from Lewan along the lines of...we don't play well on the road. That really worries me about the psyche of the team when traveling.

12/12/2013 - 12:07am Cincinnati may be the equivalent to some

However, when you consider that it has been a stepping stone for guys like Dantonio, Brian Kelly, and Butch Jones, I would think that Cinncy is a much more desirable job than Uconn, especially since the biggest move up was for Edsall who went to Maryland.

I think you actually make my point if Narduzzi has put together the best defense in the country with a bunch of 3 stars, it could be argued that with greater resources he could have a giant ceiling. Also, 48 is a great age for a head coach, not too young not too old. The only knock is that he was never a head coach, but that could literally be a knock on every coordinator who took his first HC job.

12/11/2013 - 4:46pm There is one caveat.

Those guys were assistants at places like USC, Oklahoma, Florida, and Texas. Those are all teams that consistently have top 15 recruiting classes and wind up in the top 10 in rankings. They are juggernaut schools with tremendous resources. The resources MSU brings to the table look mediocre compared to a Texas or Florida. Narduzzi looks very markeatable to me and like a guy who might not get a top tier team, but are you telling me a bottom of the bowl BCS team wouldn't take him as head coach (I am excluding Uconn). He has arguably done more with less than most of those guys.

12/09/2013 - 5:22pm Any more recruiting and Hoke will have Gout.

Still better than Sad Pizza.

12/07/2013 - 11:58am I will wait to panic.

I will wait till a bunch of guys flip their commits, a bunch of guys ask for transfers, or something else of note actually happens, before I go all crazy. Stinks we missed out on Hand, but the rest of this seems like normal recruiting drama.

Besides, maybe Hoke has like 8 commits from Alabama and Ohio that he has flipped and we just don't know yet. Maybe they were all at the Mone family table, and were just cropped out of the pic, which would explain all the protein.