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06/20/2018 - 10:33pm I was really excited by the…

I was really excited by the possibility of having the two Hughes boys playing on the same ice, in addition to all of the others. So this is a let-down, a bit. But it's kind of baked into the program--when you recruit prospects of that caliber, some of them aren't going to make it to campus, and others won't stay long.

I think Mel is recruiting with that in mind, and it's notable that there are like three guys ready to come in if Michigan has space on the roster. 

The team has already done considerably better than I thought it would in year one (or even year two) so a moderate step back this coming year isn't a disaster. But yeah, I want that tenth title, too. With Jack and Wilde and maybe Wahlstrom, that was a real possibility. The year will be a slog now, but Mel is playing with high stakes and sooner or later that's going to bear fruit.

06/20/2018 - 9:46pm Consider, for example, that…

Consider, for example, that this executive assistant probably has work to do during the games. Imagine missing the end of a game because you have to arrange Harbaugh's dinner plans or pull up the car for him.

06/20/2018 - 9:42pm Wahlstrom and Wilde are more…

Wahlstrom and Wilde are more open questions. We don't know what was going on with them (did Wilde have a LOI signed that keeps him from going somewhere else, or is he just choosing to skip college for whatever reason anyway?) and it's fair to wonder if a better job could have been done to get them in. It's clear that Mel wanted them in.

I don't think the Hughes situation is comparable, even though the top-line cause (academics) may look the same. Hughes isn't just missing a key class, but a whole year of high school.

06/20/2018 - 9:14pm Yost Built is a valuable…

Yost Built is a valuable resource for Michigan Hockey and a great fan of the program, but I think he's off base here. At least with regards to Jack Hughes, Spath made it pretty clear a month or so ago that there was a hefty load of work ahead for him to accelerate his schooling to make it on campus that fall; he further said that it would be pretty clear before or at the time of the NHL draft (when the other factor, the ultimate destination of Quinn, is decided) whether or not Jack was on track to finish high school a year early.

It is obvious, then, that Jack is not right now on track to graduate from high school a year early and go to college. That's not a knock on him, because he was only scheduled to be a senior in high school this year, and it's not like he hasn't been really busy with hockey besides. Doing another year of HS in three or four months? That's a lot.

So it's not like Michigan is keeping a guy out on a technicality, he's not not done with high school yet. 

No real idea what's going on with Wilde. But it doesn't surprise me that first round NHL draft prospects aren't always going the extra mile on academics. They are going to get rich playing hockey, it's what they love, it's their first priority. 

06/20/2018 - 6:40pm We had a very similar event…

We had a very similar event in Duluth six years ago. Pretty rough stuff, and while most things were fixed within a year, the last major project to repair the damage was only finished last year.

Northern Wisconsin was also smacked pretty hard by the same system. It's pretty wild out there. Not as bad as Houghton, but crazy nonetheless.

06/19/2018 - 11:03pm Everybody said that last…

Everybody said that last year and he was fine. Sure, he's missing Barkley now, but the cupboard isn't exactly bare. He'll be fine. 

I still expect to beat them, mind you. But McSorley is pretty good.

06/19/2018 - 10:20pm I don't think he wins the…

I don't think he wins the Heisman if the offense is clicking like that. Bama QBs generally aren't significant Heisman candidates with that kind of offense, for example, and neither are OSU QBs etc. If the offense is clicking with him at the helm, the credit probably gets spread around while guys that are lifting teams more single-handedly.

But I mean if I'm wrong and your scenario plays out I am totally, totally ok with that. 

06/19/2018 - 6:41pm I would go back and edit my…

I would go back and edit my third paragraph, which as I re-read it sounds snarky or harsh, not something I intended to bring across. Alas, the edit doesn't work!

Anyway I still stand by my point about the tiles: It's new and not useful right now but I think we're going to want it in the fall. 

06/19/2018 - 6:30pm Some things take time to…

Some things take time to install and some take time to get used to.

An important example: The tiles at the top to the so-called "stale stories" you mention.

Yeah, they're stale right now. It's June. Seth is busy trying to fix the site, several regular staff contributors are off-line, and Brian is using a crowbar to produce content almost every day while HTTV stuff is getting written up. It's going to be thin.

It won't be so in late August. I expect the week before the ND game to be as rapid-fire as ever, and when that time comes I look forward to how the tiles will help see content that might otherwise be missed. Game weeks regularly feature 3-6 front page posts per day, and being able to know that they're present will be a big boost.

That's not to say that there aren't things that can be fixed or that it will work great; just that the site has been designed for higher volumes, and we're getting this in the doldrums of the offseason when the only thing to talk about is what Maizen/Bluey thinks about how badly recruiting is going right now.

That kind of content volume also makes it easier to just not post (hey there, MGrowOld!) because there's not a lot to talk about anyway. I've certainly posted less, but I suspect what are currently minor site snags will feel irrelevant when we're busy woofing over a great win or calling for firings after an ignominious defeat.

That's when we'll know how the site redesign has worked out.

With this stuff all in mind, I feel a lot better about the decision to push back the site upgrade until the depths of the offseason. Putting up midseason, as many advocated, would have been a disaster.

06/19/2018 - 5:36pm It's just preseason talk…

It's just preseason talk. Nice to know that Steele recognizes that Michigan has a lot of developing talent on offense that could break out, but ultimately it's just talk. If there is ever a lick of talk of Patterson being even a marginal Heisman candidate as late as October, it means incredible things for the state of the program, because it means that the offense has been really good.

But even if the offense is off-the-charts great I don't think he will ever be a serious candidate, because off-the-charts great means that the OL is performing well and that means that the team is running the football very effectively. I guess there is a scenario in which his elusiveness overcomes an otherwise stagnant offense and he puts up a series of 300-yard games that win otherwise losable contests, but that is a remote possibility. It is more likely that both Higdon and Evans rush for 1000 yards and Patterson is a terrific but not Heisman-worthy player.

The pre-season stuff doesn't matter. I'm really optimistic about the team on the field, which is good, because the pressure is on to succeed this season. Hopefully Patterson and the OL are up to it.

06/18/2018 - 10:21pm One thing different from old…

One thing different from old times: Mel recruits in such a way that anticipates departures. He has a ton of guys ready in the pipeline. I doubt this is one he anticipated, but he knows guys are going to leave. 

06/18/2018 - 9:09pm The sidelines appear to be a…

The sidelines appear to be a different color; the field has not yet been brushed, and I would withhold any firm judgments on the color green until we actually see it in action. I suspect that it will wind up a similar color to the old field. At least, the old field when it was new. 

06/18/2018 - 9:07pm Probably, yes. The dirt…

Probably, yes. The dirt/rubber infill still to be brushed into the field. 

06/18/2018 - 9:04pm Ugh. He seemed like the…

Ugh. He seemed like the solid bet to fortify the team if the Hughes brothers weren't there. Now we're basically holding out for the Hughes brothers to keep us at the level we were at last season (!) or it might be tough going.

06/18/2018 - 2:56pm Yes. It is significantly…

Yes. It is significantly darker than the maize that characterized the football uniforms in the Carr years. It is not as dark as the last year of Adidas, which was borderline orange, but it is still too dark. 

The major difference is that now all teams have basically the same maize, whereas in the Carr era and earlier the maize on the football uniforms was a lighter (and in my opinion superior) color than the color used by other major teams. Most notably the hockey team, whose maize uniforms actually clashed with the helmets that were painted to football spec. 

06/18/2018 - 1:59pm A note: This shows the…

A note: This shows the layout of the lettering. It is "floating" and hasn't yet been stitched into the endzone (looked at the point of the M, for example). It should look a hair sharper when finished, though it's possible that the lettering may dull in luster somewhat when the infill is rolled in.

06/18/2018 - 1:50pm Looks good to me. Maize is a…

Looks good to me. Maize is a bit dark, but appears to be in line with the current color scheme. I'm glad they aren't trying anything fancier, like white outlines or football helmets or logos. Nice and simple. 

06/15/2018 - 5:55pm There are rare occasions…

There are rare occasions where I find this ok. For example, I use "draw" here because "tie" often means something else. There may be a word or two that is used so infrequently in America that the British pronunciation comes naturally. 

But deliberate use of British pronunciation and agreements (using plural verbs for team names, for example) strikes me as artificial. People are self-consciously changing pronunciations or language to sound British in such cases. I basically agree with you here. 

06/15/2018 - 3:52pm Games like this are why…

Games like this are why draws can be great. 

06/15/2018 - 3:46pm 3-3 in the 90th minute, but…

3-3 in the 90th minute, but who knows if it will stay this way. Crackling game. 

06/15/2018 - 3:45pm I don't like Ronaldo; I…

I don't like Ronaldo; I prefer Messi, quite strongly.

But Ronaldo is terrific. Him against the world. Unquestionably a brilliant day, and that goal was fantastic.

06/15/2018 - 2:54pm OS-GOOOOOOOOD

Might not be…


Might not be the best keeper in the world after all. Still got a ways to go to match Karius, though.

06/15/2018 - 2:16pm Hold up there, cowboy. I…

Hold up there, cowboy. I think there could be a place for the maize unis as well, but not at a home game. Definitely not.

06/15/2018 - 2:14pm I'm not familiar enough with…

I'm not familiar enough with the work of RBs pre-Jamie Morris to give a fully informed opinion on them. I know stats and some highlights, obviously, but I'm just going to abstain from that end of the conversation rather than pretend to be an expert when I don't know what I'm talking about.

In my life of watching Michigan football, which basically encompasses 1985-present, the best RBs we've had are:

Jamie Morris
Tyrone Wheatley
Tim Biakabatuka
Anthony Thomas
Mike Hart

There have been other good ones, of course, including a Doak Walker winner, but that's my list. I'm hopeful that Karan Higdon can be added to that list after this season, but we'll see. 

Who's the guy I would pick out of all of these? Tyrone Wheatley. 

06/15/2018 - 1:13pm I liked the old look (35…

I liked the old look (35 years running!) just fine. So I guess I am supposed to say: Get off my lawn.

But if you want to paint part of it blue, I think I can get used to it. I might even possibly be eager to see how it looks. Win a national title on this carpet and we'll all be all in.

Honestly, might as well give it a shot.

06/14/2018 - 1:39am I was wondering about this…

I was wondering about this. I've lived in neither and visited both, and while both are nice I've been more impressed with St. Paul than Minneapolis. 

06/14/2018 - 1:35am This is great.

It is, of…

This is great.

It is, of course, also entirely appropriate. The circumstances are shockingly similar.

But then the 1989 Michigan Basketball team is the only team I know of in sports history that won a title under when their coach was shown the door for reasons other than incompetence. So they basically have to go there because there's nothing else. 

If Glen Rice gets out there and starts hitting bombs from 35 meters I'll begin to believe.

06/13/2018 - 12:20pm Untrue. 61,500 is both well…

Untrue. 61,500 is both well above the minimum for a World Cup venue but also in line with capacities for other venues under consideration. It is, for example, significantly larger than the expanded capacity under consideration for BMO Field in Toronto.

06/13/2018 - 11:51am Agree. Sounds like a work…

Agree. Sounds like a work ethic / life application issue. That was my problem at that age, and no change of major would have fixed it. I don't know the kid and I don't know the situation, so I could be wrong, but on the surface it sounds like a kid who isn't really putting in the effort and doesn't have drive to do something. 

There's a small chance that there's a major that could excite their passion, but if they're looking for the "most marketable easy degree" I don't think they'll find it there. 

But it doesn't have to be permanent. I caught fire a couple of years later in life. It's fine.

06/13/2018 - 11:47am I don't know. But this…

I don't know. But this article makes it sound unlikely that Chicago would be interested in getting back in even if there was the option.

06/13/2018 - 11:44am Way too early to tell. We…

Way too early to tell. We haven't had much time to get used to it yet, and they haven't finished refining it. And we've been spending most of the last week staring at our own belly buttons, because there isn't much to think or worry about except the site design. 

I want to see how it works in football season. Will the smaller tab for the board on the FB be inconvenient with all the new posts? Or will the improved Mgoboard page be a natural draw that I find easy to navigate and page through? How will embedding work in its final form? How will UFRs look? etc.

I like the design fine. I might appreciate a couple of adjustments, but I also just need time to get used to it. 

Making a call like this is waaaay premature. Whether you're currently unhappy or through the roof, it's too early to know.

06/13/2018 - 11:39am It's not that much of a…

It's not that much of a question anymore. Things have come a long way from the Silverdome, and there are a number of domed or periodically domed stadiums that support live grass.

There are, for example, modular systems where the fields are permanently kept in trays and moved as necessary. Virginia Tech uses this kind of system, and there was a healthy debate here last year about whether or not such a system could work in Michigan Stadium. Adapting that to a dome venue like Atlanta would be no problem at all. 

06/13/2018 - 11:36am After all that, obvious…

After all that, obvious choice is obvious. No country in the world is better equipped to host this kind of event than the US, and it's not close. 

The venues have not been determined yet; the list will eventually be cut down to 10 US venues.

There are some obvious ones in there, but also some bizarre absences. Those absences appear to be attributable to FIFA silliness, naturally, but it's still weird that Chicago isn't even a candidate. The entire swatch of the upper midwest (that is, most of us) is basically out of luck regarding local venues. 

No-brainers here include Pasadena, Santa Clara, Dallas, Denver, Seattle, and Miami. I would call Cincy crazy, except that it's the closest venue to the entire Great Lakes region. I hope they don't just give the bids to all of the Acela corridor stadiums. 

06/11/2018 - 11:14am Ugh. Can't edit.


Ugh. Can't edit.

So, besides winning the college football playoff, what else would I like to see us do that we've never done?

Uh, that's it. Attend and win the playoff. The B1G championship game is implicit there. I want Michigan to win championships; if that's something that our team has already done, well, I want to do it again. 

06/11/2018 - 11:13am Since the playoff, the B1G…

Since the playoff, the B1G championship game, the nine-game conference season, and the subsequent ability to play fourteen games in a season are all quite recent innovations, Michigan's failure to accomplish any of these is simply a reflection of the troubled state of the program in the past five years rather than some bizarre historical anomaly. 

In a similar vein, we could knock Brazil for having never won a World Cup Finals with 48 participants (it hasn't happened yet? A minor problem) and ding the Vegas Golden Knights for never having won a Stanley Cup and criticize Brad Stevens for never getting over the hump as coach of the Celtics.

The Cotton Bowl, at least, has been around for a while and has a great history, but our lack of a title there has more to do with the scarcity of opportunity to attend. We haven't won the Idaho Potato Bowl, either. Seems more telling that we HAVE won the Fiesta, Orange, and Sugar Bowls despite appearing in those games a total of six times. 

06/10/2018 - 12:52am Larry Collmus (thanks…

Larry Collmus (thanks Chatster!) with another crackling call. Makes these events so much better.

06/10/2018 - 12:51am It's actually worse than…

It's actually worse than that, because perhaps the most significant racehorse in the interim between AP and Justify is just-retired Arrogate, and he's a Baffert horse, too. 

Fun to watch, though. 

06/10/2018 - 12:48am Secretariat's brilliance…

Secretariat's brilliance simply grows with time. My kids don't watch sports much, but they've seen the movie, and the fact that Secretariat still holds the record in all three triple crown races is just amazing. It's remarkable that you can tell them that the dramatic blowout in the Belmont was, in fact, just as dominant in real life. 

Horse racing is, in this way, remarkable different from human sports, where a combination of improved training / nutrition and PEDs have rendered virtually all records vanishingly temporary. 

I'm not a huge fan and the gambling aspect of the sport turns me off, but as a sports fan I can appreciate that a great deal.

06/09/2018 - 11:38pm Ok, it's early. People…

Ok, it's early. People always, always hate change. I've hated every redesign of from 1996 to today. I enjoyed the old site enough. It was fine.

So I'll hold off on judging the whole site now. Of course the loudest people are going to be complainers; it seemed like everybody was griping about the lack of a new site before, and now that it's here a lot of people are griping. Probably different people, mostly. But it's easy to miss that.

All that said, here are some initial impressions:

I agree with others, there just isn't that much information on a given page. I prefer to have as many comments visible on screen as possible. 

And it's a bit harder to physically scan comments quickly. Some of this is just newness; the new indent-and-drop-line scheme is different but fine. But there's no color separation the way there was on the old site, and there's no "new" flag that I think most of us became dependent upon to quickly drop to new comments on the board. 

It'd be nice to have some soft grey in certain areas to break up the white space.

I'll hold off on everything until football season. Once we see how things work after Notre Dame, we'll have a better idea--if most people still find the new board really awkward to use, that's not a good sign. But it may be that between time spent learning and continued improvements from the hamsters, we'll like it just fine by then. 

06/08/2018 - 4:45pm I thought the whole point of…

I thought the whole point of the Mgoboard was to waste time, why do I want to do it faster?

06/08/2018 - 3:48pm Dude.

Thanks for linking…


Thanks for linking that. Crazy.

06/08/2018 - 1:01pm Ontario! Steve Halko, Nik…

Ontario! Steve Halko, Nik Stauskas, Ben Flanagan!

... Ignas Brazdeikis!

06/08/2018 - 12:03pm I may be missing something,…

I may be missing something, but if a player were to transfer during fall camp, 2018 still counts as their ineligible year, right? He (or anyone else) would be able to enroll in a new school and play in 2019?

I know people are saying "just finish the year and grad transfer," and I understand that (and honestly at this point I think he's probably going to be the backup and may get serious PT) but if it looks like he's been passed over it's not unreasonable from his perspective to go somewhere where there's a fresh start available and start learning the new team right away.

06/08/2018 - 11:59am I actually liked some of the…

I actually liked some of the stuff Peters was doing early in the bowl game before everything fell apart.

Thing is, he was rushed along during the season due to the emergent nature of the QB situation. It was pretty clear to me that he was playing with a very limited playbook, and that they were just giving him enough stuff each week to get through the game. The bowl game gave him an opportunity to spend a solid month knowing that he was the starter, without fear of losing his job, with plenty of time to study the playbook and a couple of weeks getting first-team reps in practice. It was his time to shine.

And he didn't show much growth at all.

That, to me, was a big concern.

Does it close the book? No. Guys grow. Brian Griese and Tom Brady could easily have been written off too early; even John Navarre developed into a quality QB by his RS senior year. But the early returns show some challenge. It's not writing a guy off to say that he is in danger of being passed and might decide to transfer; he ultimately will confirm or repudiate those ideas himself in how he performs in the coming months.

BTW if a QB transfers because they're clearly going to struggle to get playing time, I respect it. Harbaugh is recruiting in a way that expects transfers. If Peters gets passed by McCaffrey, I would expect him to transfer and would wish him well. Same for McCaffrey/Milton, etc. It's a win for everyone.

06/07/2018 - 11:47pm 100% agree.

100% agree.

06/07/2018 - 11:45pm That was pre-lockout, when…

That was pre-lockout, when the NHL was rising enough to merit that infamous "Hot and Not" SI cover that contrasted the NHL positively with the direction of the NBA. 

Then came the lockout that summer. The the trap, continued southern expansion, an entire season wiped out... Bettman's bad days were in front of him. 

06/07/2018 - 11:25pm Yes. They "retire" the…

Yes. They "retire" the oldest one when they do that, and it goes on display at the HHOF.

06/07/2018 - 11:20pm I think Bettman is awful,…

I think Bettman is awful, but I will credit him here: I think he knew exactly what he was saying. He even paused for the boos. 

06/07/2018 - 11:20pm I think Bettman is awful,…

I think Bettman is awful, but I will credit him here: I think he knew exactly what he was saying. He even paused for the boos. 

06/07/2018 - 11:17pm HAHAHAHAHAHA

Crowd boos…


Crowd boos Bettman. Bettman: "Once again, you've proven this is an NHL city!"

Awesome. 100% awesome.