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04/11/2017 - 2:31pm from each school

a male and female (since 1982) athlete from each B1G school

03/09/2015 - 9:20am Disagree

There were two views that both showed the puck in the net; one was the from the camera on the opposite side, the other was from the camera directly above the goal. Even if only the former existed, why shouldn't that be used to make the correct call?

08/26/2012 - 10:14pm That's quite interesting,

That's quite interesting, Bluebells and maize (appropriate username for this topic). I wonder if there's a common genesis that both of these were copied from or if it's completely coincidental. The fact that you've also seen it other places would seem to point to the latter.

I forget to mention that the typo's in the lyrics to the Yellow and Blue, not the Victors. They're listed on facing pages in that book.


08/25/2012 - 8:35pm Minor quibble

Minor quibble (and maybe this has been discussed before), but he might be able to practice with the team (but not play in a game) without counting as a footbal scholarship. The NCAA rule book distinguishes between players who were "recruited...and/or offered financial aid to participate in football" and those who weren't. I don't know if that means recruited by any NCAA school or by the school he ends up attending.

Assuming it's the latter, he could redshirt with the football team before he and the coaches decide if he's going to continue. If he's going to redshirt for wrestling anyway and he's not sure about his choice, that's an option.  It would also depend on if he'd consider participating in both sports at the same time. That would be difficult since the two seasons overlap by at least a month, but it's been done before.

08/23/2012 - 4:32pm Beilein discussing a high

Beilein discussing a high school athlete with the media before he's signed his LOI would be an NCAA violation (with very few exceptions). I'm not saying Farmer didn't have an offer, but you're probably misremembering the article.

08/22/2012 - 11:19am Sorry Six Zero, but those

Sorry Six Zero, but those Upton shirts should never have seen the light of day.

08/21/2012 - 5:28pm They may haved fixed it

They may haved fixed it, but there's a typo in the lyrics. It's "gleams like a tear", not "gleams lie a tear"

08/02/2012 - 10:14am Bryant Scholarship

Bryant Scholarship

07/31/2012 - 5:12pm Yes, 1 in 6


1 in 6?   Both bits of good news are not for the same team.  Therefore, 2 teams of the 12 will get good news.  We are 1 of the 12, therefiore we have a 1 in 12 chance.


Using this logic, if 12 teams were going to get good news, Michigan's shot is still 1 in 12? 1 in 6 is the correct number.



07/30/2012 - 3:10pm I think it's clear from most

I think it's clear from most of the responses in this thread that Hoke is seen as strict on rule-breakers. You might argue that he hasn't done enough to deserve that reputation, but based on what we've seen I don't have a reason to doubt it.

Stonum's punishment certainly could have benefited the team this year if he hadn't messed up again, but don't forget the environment at the time. Hoke was going into his first year as a coach of a major program and had many fans questioning his ability to lead Michigan. It's unlikely that he anticipated the team would have such a good year. At the time I'm sure he was much more focused on having a successful initial campaign then stockpiling talent for 2012.

We still seem to disagree about kicking Toussaint off the team. My point is that I don't think dismissing him after his first offense is what people here are talking about when they say Michigan's staff isn't as lenient as other staffs. That's the most severe action Hoke could take against him and there is certainly some middle ground between that and what other schools have done. We'll have to wait and see what Hoke does with Toussaint and Clark, but I still think there are valid reasons to contrast Hoke's actions in his first year with those of some of the coaches of rival schools.

07/27/2012 - 1:12pm Didn't Floyd have a .20 BAC when he got his DUI?

Didn't Floyd have  a .20 BAC when he got his DUI? You could argue that a DUI is a DUI. But then you'd be wrong

Wasn't that Floyd's third alcohol related offense in less than two years? Toussaint has no such pattern to indicate this might be a much more serious problem.

Even if Toussaint does play against Alabama, the Stonum situation was much more analogous. Hoke sat him for the entire year.

07/27/2012 - 1:00pm Since when does Hoke not have an image of being strict?

Since when does Hoke not have an image of being strict? Can you actually point to anything he's done that makes you think he'll take issues of this magnitude lightly?

Also, you seem to equate this to morality, but  I just see as doing what's best for the players and the program in the long run. Assuming Toussaint and Clark did what it seems they did, I think Hoke would be short-sighted to play them against Alabama.

Finally, I don't see a lot of people advocating kicking Toussaint off the team. Maybe that's "as good" as you'd like to think Michigan is, but be careful when speaking for the entire fan base. I know that's not the image I have of the program, but maybe that's just because I know kids who have been ticketed for DUI (an admittedly reckless and dangerous act) and were able to turn themselves around.

07/22/2012 - 4:52pm 01010111

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02/03/2012 - 4:10pm That's not Musburger, it's

That's not Musburger, it's the ND audio stream

12/16/2011 - 8:32am Most recruits' families

Most recruits' families aren't going to have the Big Ten Network

12/13/2011 - 12:20am Better his arm than his

Better his arm than his head/neck

12/13/2011 - 12:02am You still can see the original

It wasn't actually deleted at the time, just unpublished. It still shows up when I'm logged in, but I don't know if that also applies to users that didn't post in it. Presumably the thread's not a big deal now since the meme's gone official, so here's the link:

I'm glad this has turned into a good thing. I know folks were just having some fun, but some of the responses were harsher than I expected. I still feel a little bad for not trying to reign things in (though I don't know how much difference it would have actually made).

Anyway, my offer for a beer still stands "Lloyd".

12/11/2011 - 12:34am That would certainly explain

That would certainly explain how he seems to show up at every Michigan related event, even when more than one's happening at the same time. Sort of like the agents from The Matrix, maybe.

12/09/2011 - 8:10pm It would be interesting to

It would be interesting to see if the NCAA could successfully force a student-athlete to assert their publicity rights and shut down some of these operations.

11/07/2011 - 10:30am I will add another PI here:

I will add another PI here: the last play of the game. I thought it was clearly interference live and the replay did nothing to change my mind. I believe the announcers were discussing it as well, though I was too sick at that point to really listen to them much.

I'm not trying to pull a Penn State circa 2005 and say anyone was in the bag, just that it's undeniable that the officiating was not good - to Michigan's detriment. There were many self inflicted wounds (4th and 7 argh!), but those three uncalled PIs were killer.

I can only think of one close call that went Michigan's way: the 4th and 1 illegal snap. Live I thought Mike Martin got away with one, but the replay showed that the call was definitely correct (though frankly Martin was lucky someone on the officiating crew caught it because of how subtle it was - it could have easily been missed and he would have given Iowa the free first down at a critical point in the game). The fumble and the Vincent Smith TD run being overturned were clearly correct calls. The Hemingway TD was close enough that it's hard to blame the refs or the replay official (though, for the record, it looked like the ball didn't move and I was hoping it would be an anti MSU v Wisconsin). I thought there were a few missed holding calls, but they went both ways. Those the PI no-calls, along with one or two others that looked like probable defensive holdings but were at the edge of the TV picture and weren't thrown at, are probably the game's biggest storyline for me.

10/27/2011 - 10:02pm That was pretty clearly (to

That was pretty clearly (to me, anyway) sarcasm.

10/25/2011 - 9:52am I believe OverTheTop's fear

I believe OverTheTop's fear is that, going forward, it will be harder to remain successful while maintaining the integrity we all expect from the program. It was in response to mgobluebraelow pointing out that Michigan's record against the SEC is good while Ohio State's is bad.

10/24/2011 - 3:44pm Triple posted, so it must be

Triple posted, so it must be true

10/21/2011 - 10:44am Walmart wolverines? Really?

Walmart wolverines? Really?

10/21/2011 - 10:20am Not true, spartan interloper

Not true, spartan interloper. Things Dantonio could have done to redeem himself or win a little respect:

  1. Sat Gholston after his second blatant personal foul
  2. Apologized publicly for his team's thuggish play
  3. Not accepted his defensive coordinator making light of the behavior
  4. Suspended Gholston of his own volition
  5. Suspended Gholston for more than the bare minimum of one game
  6. Not espouse "zero tolerance" only to later redefine it as "very high tolerance" with his actions
  7. Not get in a verbal sparring match with a student athlete half his age
  8. The list goes on, but it basically all boils down to showing that there is something, anything, he holds more important than winning.
10/17/2011 - 1:22pm Come on chitown

Come on chitown, what are you trying to do here? You're blasting rbgoblue completely unfairly for complaining about the dust-up with Schwartz and misrepresenting his take on Harbaugh's comments at Stanford. I think he made his point quite obvious:

It is pretty clear that Harbaugh has long since traded in his alma mater for his own personal benefit, evidenced no clearer than by his words and actions

When many fans are excusing his behavior in the NFL and NCAA because of his ties to Michigan, it's completely reasonable to question his actions with respect to the university. This has nothing to do with playing gatekeeper to the Michigan man club.

For the record, I can't blame Harbaugh for taking the 49ers job if that's what he really wanted to do. I do think, on the other hand, Harbaugh was not only hypocritical and self-serving, but also wrong, cowardly, and (disagree if you want) ungrateful when he made his infamous comments.

10/14/2011 - 2:41pm OldManUfer agrees

OldManUfer agrees

10/11/2011 - 11:17am I don't wish ill will on

I don't wish ill will on Harbaugh, but I'm not exactly pulling for him. I just have a bit of a hard time with the jabs he took at Bo, the football program, and Michigan while the head coach of Stanford. Left a sour taste in my mouth, so much so that I wasn't really sure I wanted him as our next coach. Did anyone else feel the same way?

09/30/2011 - 1:35pm Depends on how much you want

Depends on how much you want to pay and what kind of coat you want. Here's one:

Here's another:

If you're a lady who's into fashion, maybe this one:

I wouldn't go out and buy a coat just for this, but I wear my "cheap and ugly" sweatshirts until it gets really cold.

09/30/2011 - 1:13pm Apples to apple-type-substances

Apples to apple-type-substance: "$16.6 million of Illinois’ $22.6 million check comes from television rights" ( ). The BTN is producing basically as much revenue for the conference as the ABC/ESPN deal.

What I'm not sure about is how much of the BTN money to attribute to other sports (mainly basketball). I think it's safe to assume that the vast majority is from football, however, and that the revenue will continue to rise in coming years.

As for the bowls, both Michigan and Notre Dame make money from them. They both get a slice from the BCS (though Michigan's is usually a bit bigger). ND gets all the money from any bowl it plays in but nothing else. Michigan gets some extra money from the conference for making a bowl game ("travel budget") and surrenders the rest. However, it gets an equal share of all of the members' excess bowl revenue. I don't know whose take is more on average, but Michigan's is certainly more consistent. Watch out if ND starts making BCS bowls on the regular, though.

09/30/2011 - 12:36pm I don't think merchandising

I don't think merchandising or licensing revenue is split with the rest of the conference. Have a source for that?

09/30/2011 - 10:03am $120 million in profit by 2015 can't be right

$120 million in profit by 2015 can't be right. It's been widely reported that each big ten school pocketed $7.9 million from the BTN last year. Since the conference only takes about half of the profit, the BTN netted around $170 million last year. It should be significantly higher by 2015.

09/29/2011 - 4:05pm I don't get why people think

I don't get why people think that it's impossible to find maize winter clothes. Sure, it may not be as common as blue or gray, but by it's by no means difficult to find. I have a couple maize sweatshirts (which I have no trouble finding a "use" for the other 3/4 of the year) and I used to have a yellow winter ski jacket (sadly worn out, new one was a gift). I also have a maize jersey (ok, that one's hockey, like The FannMan). I don't really feel the need to wear jerseys to football games anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that I think everyone has to wear maize. If you're not going to join in the maize-outs though, don't blame it on an inability to find suitable gear. If you want to go in your blue jersey, that's up to you. I prefer to always go in maize because it's a more impressive effect, your preferences may be different.

09/20/2011 - 1:57pm #12

You probably already realized this, but that awe inspiring winged helmet at #12 belongs to Bellevue in Washington, Steve Schilling's old high school.

09/09/2011 - 3:49pm I've heard the rumor about

I've heard the rumor about the fan being thrown out of the bowl before, but never really believed it. What year did it happen?

09/03/2011 - 2:44pm Proud?

Definitely not all, there are many of us who hang around after the games specifically to sing it. I never even realized that only singing "Hail" was a thing. Are there really other people out there who are proud of only knowing one word of the lyrics of our alma mater? I heartily suggest you learn the entirety (The Yellow and Blue lyrics from and sing it with gusto.

09/03/2011 - 2:15pm A fantastic job indeed

A fantastic job indeed. I'm having a hard time understanding him on this computer, though. He's not singing the usual third verse, right? What was it?

09/01/2011 - 9:40am People with tattoos

People with tattoos are better at football. This is an undeniable fact.

08/30/2011 - 2:22pm Plated possum?

Plated possum?

07/28/2011 - 12:25pm I know you were just kidding,

I know you were just kidding, but for the record I'm not a lawyer. Also in the spirit of full disclosure, I got my Cornings crossed in my previous post. It's Owens, not Dow.

07/28/2011 - 11:58am The best known example is

The best known example is probably pink Dow Corning fiberglass insulation.

The case you're referring to set the precedent in the US. It was Qualitex v. Jacobson, which made it to the Supreme Court (see,_Inc.).

For the record, I think it's unlikely that Nike has trademarked Maize.

07/28/2011 - 11:42am Agreed

I've never seen precedent for patenting a color, I can't imagine it would fly. Trademarking, on the other hand, is often used to protect colors. In this specific example, I can tell you that Michigan does have a trademark on the colors Maize and Blue, a fact verified during the Budweiser dust-up of 2009:

06/15/2011 - 8:36pm As much as I love the campus experience

As much as I love the campus experience and not playing in a stadium the affection of whose naming rights are negotiable (to borrow a phrase from Brian), I would absolutely love it if Michigan played at Gillette instead of at UConn. I've been to Storrs, wouldn't be missing much.

Thanks for the heads up.

06/15/2011 - 8:22pm It was two days ago, on Monday

It was two days ago, on Monday (hence 6/13). I had the same reaction to Red's comment. I tried to ask if the reports that the format had been decided were inaccurate, but I didn't get called on.

I can't believe that between the head hockey coach and athletic director no one would know about this. The reports said the schools voted on potential formats, so who represented Michigan?

06/15/2011 - 8:15pm Agreed

I was there as well and that's an accurate description of his comment. I don't recall his exact choice of words, but he definitely invoked the old cliche about bloggers writing in their underwear from basements (all that was missing was "their moms'").

He said he doesn't read the blogs and doesn't really care what the authors think. The rest of his answer came off, to me anyway, as "I don't care what the rest of the fans think either." Most of the rest of his answers were pretty good, but I think he dropped the ball with at least that one.

06/14/2011 - 9:32am Interesting

Interesting, it seems this "important meeting" might have been a late breaking development. In Boston Brandon was talking about how he had to get to New York for the next event just seconds before leaving. I wonder what could have changed.

For the record, he seemed like a nice guy and was engaging. On the whole he's been a positive for the university. I can't say I've agree with him on everything. I'm not really a big fan of the night game jerseys (at least they don't look nearly as bad with short sleeves) or how he's handled one or two issues. My concern, and I think the reason he's being called "corporate", is that he doesn't seem to give much weight to the fans' opinions. He hinted as much at the alumni event. In the end I think what most of us want most is an athletic department that wins with integrity, so if he can continue delivering on that he'll be just fine.

05/20/2011 - 11:36am You (and other Michigan fans)

You (and other Michigan fans) are certainly not obligated to do anything, including hope Morris is drafted in the first round. But why wouldn't you? At this point he's not coming back, the best thing for Michigan is to root for him. What's the tangible benefit if he doesn't get taken in the first round? Do you think that Morris going undrafted is going to have much of an effect on the next player thinking about leaving early? Even if it does, from a purely Michigan-centric viewpoint, Beilein getting his first drafted recruit helps more. Yes, the same could be said if Morris had stayed all four years, but that's no longer an option. Given how much he helped the team this year, I'm sure Beilein would still have recruited him just as hard had he known what he now knows.

05/20/2011 - 10:30am That is Beilein's philosophy

I was at a meet and greet with Coach Beilein a few years back and someone asked how he handles it when a player lets him know he's considering entering the draft. He was pretty explicit that he wouldn't try to keep the player for selfish reasons. He talked about how he tries to be active in guiding them through the evaluation process and he has some scouting contacts. I'm sure Beilein and Morris had a frank discussion about what's in the young man's best interest. Since he stayed in the draft, I don't doubt that Beilein felt he was ready based on the feedback they received.

I'm definitely disappointed that I won't be able to watch him play in a Michigan jersey for another year (or two), but I wish him the best of luck in the draft. More importantly, I hope he goes to a team that is a good situation for him and he has a long and successful career.

05/17/2011 - 9:56am We may be bigger

but we're not allowed to hit back

05/12/2011 - 11:14am We can argue about OHL vs. NCAA

We can argue about OHL vs. NCAA division 1 (it's definitely not as clear-cut as you make it out to be), but the CIS is certainly not comparable to its American counterpart. It's difficult when they're mostly limited to former junior players with limited pro potential. No doubt there are good teams in the CIS, but the head-to-head record speaks for itself. Take this past year as an example.

There were 48 games between NCAA division 1 and the CIS teams in 2010-2011; the NCAA took the "series" 38-9-1. The only shocker was Denver losing to Lethbridge, all the rest of the NCAA teams that lost were mediocre to sub-par. New Brunswick and Western Ontario, the two teams you cited, accounted for 6 of those wins and were both top 5 CIS teams (each also lost a game to Providence and Michigan, respectively). The usual caveats about matchups and locations apply, but this is not how "comparable" leagues fare against each other.