The JJ statistics raise an interesting point. Why did he not score more against tomato cans. And why does this seem to me to be a Michigan thing, predating Harbaugh. Certainly this was true under Lloydin the 90s, even with Brady.
I agree the offense will be good. Some drop offs in personnel, but many excellent players. I expect offensive coaching to improve in the week in week out schedule due to losing Harbaugh. My pet theory is that the Harbaugh system run by someone other than Harbaugh might branch out in a way Harbaugh would not have done. So the offense might surprise and overwhelm even losing McCarthy, Corum, two receivers and the whole offensive line. Give them one game to learn.
Upside. A new D coordinator will be handed a scheme and can grow into it. While Sherrone greatly improved the offensive line (and he will be there to keep that monster going), the offense struggled against top defenses. Sherrone will hire an O coordinator. I hope the new O coordinator will improve the offense. So I think the team will improve if Harbaugh leaves. If he stays it will also improve. The glass is full. Just have a reasonable QB.
The WSU run game was hobbled by injury to its running back, probably second quarter. Similar to injury to D Johnson. One difference: our defense was challenged early, then tightened up later.
How to double with a safety when they throw out four and five receivers. How to stop the run in the same 4-5 receiver formation. I am not the first to point out the similarity to Ryan Leaf and WSU. This time, don’t let a lesser team dominate the trenches for 3 quarters, and this time be prepared to air it out as long as it takes.
Just don’t pull a Lloyd Carr against WSU and fritter away the advantage in the trenches until the fourth quarter. Also be prepared for five receiver sets from which they pass or run. Random thought- part of Penix’ apparent long ball accuracy is Odunze being able to run under the ball and out position his defender. Having said that, I also see Penix fire Brady style 10-12 yard passes on a rope with perfect accuracy. Be ready for a really good game plan from UW on both sides of the ball.
JJ should return. Still shows jitters. Still cannot routinely throw passes that need a soft touch, like Penix does. Brady made major improvements in his last year, 1999. JJ can also, and he needs it.
This will be just like the arm bar coached by Pitino in 2013 NCAA final. As soon as the game is over a move to change the rule benefiting our opponent will commence.
Score in that Florida game not indicative. Hart fumbled twice because he was trying too hard. At least once as he approached the goal line. And our defensive line was dominant at the end.
I asked Buckeye Chuck about this at the time. All Day had to do was get 10 more yards dor his kicker to win the game, and he turtled. It was all on Day. OSU was better than GA last year, and that includes coaching until the last minute.
In 2020 Cade took the job from Joe Milton in middle of Rutgers game. Did Joe treat him like dirt? I have never heard Joe Milton speaking badly or detached about Cade.
Problem of non-Will Johnson cornerbacks. If OSU goes five receivers wide, what would we do. Hard to double Harrison. Would we rely on safeties or go with five cornerbacks. Do we have five good cornerbacks. Thinking of Tressel surprise move in The Game 2006.
This could have been driven by legal predictions based on Big10 compliance with its governing docs, legal impenetrability of conference docs and inability to take away conference discretion. That is what the law can often be about, NOT THE MERITS. It might not be the merits. Whatever you thought about the merits, stick with that. What Stalions did was a stop sign and this is bullshit. But that often happens in law. 85 grad.
It was foolish of Stalions to go to CMU (allegedly) when he could have asked Day and Schiano for their vetted signals sheets. What was he thinking. It would have saved a ton of work.
I would like to see JJ throw more lofting passes like the long pass to Donovan against Purdue. He needs to show he can throw the soft looping pass in addition to Brady style rifle shots.
I agree. Think of OSU 1996; Shawn Springs falls so Tai Streets scores for I think only touchdown of the game for either team. This happened against us sometimes, which I will not name.
I grew up in Lower Merion, just past City Line Ave. in Philadelphia’s western suburbs. I have never been to Penn State’s campus even though I had two siblings that went there. It is far away from Philly and you would need a reason to go there.
Because Texas lost to Oklahoma, who lost to OSU, who just got destroyed by UCF. Alabama’s improvement over the season changes the head to head calculation, making what to do with Georgia the big question.
I don’t read anything from NY, living out here in the southwest. But I recall that Chait once published an article speculating that Trump was a Russian spy going way back, maybe to the 1980s. Since the whole collusion thing was a scam and a hoax, I guess he had no basis for his speculation. But I will happily read good takes from him on our team.
I agree with XM. Having the issues briefed by both sides and a week for all to prepare probably obviates the need for a 10 day hearing on the same issues that would have occurred had the TRO been issued yesterday.
I agree that the real Vegas issue is whether Michigan’s point spreads have decreased due to a belief their winning margins were partially due to sign matters. Apparently Vegas does not think anything has changed. The gang mentality of the other B10 school reps is appalling.
So Ohio told TCU of Michigan’s sign program. Why would they do that? So they would not play us again in the playoff, and they had all the time in the world to change their signs. They wanted to play TCU, not Michigan, and it had nothing to do with signage.
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The JJ statistics raise an interesting point. Why did he not score more against tomato cans. And why does this seem to me to be a Michigan thing, predating Harbaugh. Certainly this was true under Lloydin the 90s, even with Brady.
I agree the offense will be good. Some drop offs in personnel, but many excellent players. I expect offensive coaching to improve in the week in week out schedule due to losing Harbaugh. My pet theory is that the Harbaugh system run by someone other than Harbaugh might branch out in a way Harbaugh would not have done. So the offense might surprise and overwhelm even losing McCarthy, Corum, two receivers and the whole offensive line. Give them one game to learn.
Need a special counsel asap.
I watched MNF on ABC.
NM attorney here. Leroy T’s advice is what I would tell somebody here. Well stated.
+1 for 2000 Orange Bowl, and how about 1991 Notre Dame and the 4th down TD pass Grbac to Desmond.
Time to let the other guys have a shot at playing. They might be very good.
Upside. A new D coordinator will be handed a scheme and can grow into it. While Sherrone greatly improved the offensive line (and he will be there to keep that monster going), the offense struggled against top defenses. Sherrone will hire an O coordinator. I hope the new O coordinator will improve the offense. So I think the team will improve if Harbaugh leaves. If he stays it will also improve. The glass is full. Just have a reasonable QB.
The WSU run game was hobbled by injury to its running back, probably second quarter. Similar to injury to D Johnson. One difference: our defense was challenged early, then tightened up later.
“There ain’t no sanity clause.” Chico Marx, noted commercial attorney
I started November-December 2007 with a Fire Lloyd Carr thread somewhere, and stumbled on to this site. Don’t know how specifically.
How to double with a safety when they throw out four and five receivers. How to stop the run in the same 4-5 receiver formation. I am not the first to point out the similarity to Ryan Leaf and WSU. This time, don’t let a lesser team dominate the trenches for 3 quarters, and this time be prepared to air it out as long as it takes.
Just don’t pull a Lloyd Carr against WSU and fritter away the advantage in the trenches until the fourth quarter. Also be prepared for five receiver sets from which they pass or run. Random thought- part of Penix’ apparent long ball accuracy is Odunze being able to run under the ball and out position his defender. Having said that, I also see Penix fire Brady style 10-12 yard passes on a rope with perfect accuracy. Be ready for a really good game plan from UW on both sides of the ball.
What was Lloyd Carr’s defense for five wideouts and a QB that could throw all over the field.
JJ should return. Still shows jitters. Still cannot routinely throw passes that need a soft touch, like Penix does. Brady made major improvements in his last year, 1999. JJ can also, and he needs it.
Why not do both. Hang back with two safeties, then do surprise blitzing.
What lopsided loss to South Carolina. They came from behind on 2012 and 2017. Did I miss one?
We need to get into the weeds: New Mexico State
This will be just like the arm bar coached by Pitino in 2013 NCAA final. As soon as the game is over a move to change the rule benefiting our opponent will commence.
I was impressed with the OSU defense, players and coaching. On a separate note, I still think Day blew last year’s Georgia game.
Is ESPN aware of our offensive tackles? not /s
Score in that Florida game not indicative. Hart fumbled twice because he was trying too hard. At least once as he approached the goal line. And our defensive line was dominant at the end.
Serious question. How did we run the ball better against OSU, post-Zinter injury, than against Iowa.
Bryan, your demise of the Big10 West was a highlight this year.
How about we come out fast even against playoff teams with top notch offenses.
I asked Buckeye Chuck about this at the time. All Day had to do was get 10 more yards dor his kicker to win the game, and he turtled. It was all on Day. OSU was better than GA last year, and that includes coaching until the last minute.
My opinion is consistent with Team 101. We should have gone for it on 3rd down at the end of the game.
In 2020 Cade took the job from Joe Milton in middle of Rutgers game. Did Joe treat him like dirt? I have never heard Joe Milton speaking badly or detached about Cade.
The worst time on the Board was the 2019 season. So many posters were trolls, and many who were not trolls were equally negative.
I remember this post and it was hard to argue with at the time. We were all down on Harbaugh and the program after the losing season.
Problem of non-Will Johnson cornerbacks. If OSU goes five receivers wide, what would we do. Hard to double Harrison. Would we rely on safeties or go with five cornerbacks. Do we have five good cornerbacks. Thinking of Tressel surprise move in The Game 2006.
This could have been driven by legal predictions based on Big10 compliance with its governing docs, legal impenetrability of conference docs and inability to take away conference discretion. That is what the law can often be about, NOT THE MERITS. It might not be the merits. Whatever you thought about the merits, stick with that. What Stalions did was a stop sign and this is bullshit. But that often happens in law. 85 grad.
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It was foolish of Stalions to go to CMU (allegedly) when he could have asked Day and Schiano for their vetted signals sheets. What was he thinking. It would have saved a ton of work.
I would like to see JJ throw more lofting passes like the long pass to Donovan against Purdue. He needs to show he can throw the soft looping pass in addition to Brady style rifle shots.
I agree. Think of OSU 1996; Shawn Springs falls so Tai Streets scores for I think only touchdown of the game for either team. This happened against us sometimes, which I will not name.
What would Ted Lasso wear.
Friday, at about 3:30.
I grew up in Lower Merion, just past City Line Ave. in Philadelphia’s western suburbs. I have never been to Penn State’s campus even though I had two siblings that went there. It is far away from Philly and you would need a reason to go there.
Carpetron, I gave you a thumbs up for a polite and well written response. But we will have to disagree.
Because Texas lost to Oklahoma, who lost to OSU, who just got destroyed by UCF. Alabama’s improvement over the season changes the head to head calculation, making what to do with Georgia the big question.
I don’t read anything from NY, living out here in the southwest. But I recall that Chait once published an article speculating that Trump was a Russian spy going way back, maybe to the 1980s. Since the whole collusion thing was a scam and a hoax, I guess he had no basis for his speculation. But I will happily read good takes from him on our team.
I agree with XM. Having the issues briefed by both sides and a week for all to prepare probably obviates the need for a 10 day hearing on the same issues that would have occurred had the TRO been issued yesterday.
Too late for Entertainment Sports Network. I will never go back, and they should never be allowed on campus unless they buy a ticket.
I agree that the real Vegas issue is whether Michigan’s point spreads have decreased due to a belief their winning margins were partially due to sign matters. Apparently Vegas does not think anything has changed. The gang mentality of the other B10 school reps is appalling.
So Ohio told TCU of Michigan’s sign program. Why would they do that? So they would not play us again in the playoff, and they had all the time in the world to change their signs. They wanted to play TCU, not Michigan, and it had nothing to do with signage.
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Hoagies are from Philadelphia. I didn’t always live in the Southwest.
I still remember his post-game interview, Nebraska 2021. Michigan used to lose those games. He helped turn that corner.