I was in the band in '86 when Harbaugh beat them. We missed the last half of the 4th quarter because we were literally evacuated. While leaving, troglodytes threw batteries at us so as to dent our horns. Ya.
I remember another fatal wrong way M14 crash just a few years ago.
You may discount that observation except that I moved from SE Lower Michigan 25 years ago, and recall only one wrong way traffic incident in my adopted metro area since then. That metro area is much larger than SE Lower Michigan.
Having read the article, I find it relates the demise of my classmate Don Cash. What a waste! It is no longer about summiting Everest; it is now waiting around until you asphyxiate. Shut it down.
I came on here to wish for an even playing field. Oh, and a band that actually marches. But what is all that, really? I ENVISION those UM docs doing magic! And your family having precious time together.
Bring it home Santa!
Was I so provincially obnoxious (or is that obnoxiously provincial?) as an undergrad? Perhaps, although I just dont think so..... So my grievance: provincially obnoxious provinciality!
Visiting a former Soviet Republic (not the Russian one) fifteen years ago was quite an eye-opener either way. The British ambassador to that country lived three doors down from the friends I was visiting. He now is taking responsibility for the Wikileaks handoff blamed on WD's Russians (and Sarah Palin's neighbors). WD (et al) you might want to google Wikileaks + British + ambassador. Your eyes will be opened with force. Having met said ambassador and with the verification of my friends of twenty years none of what he says is "fake".
History, heretofore, has been written by the winners (often employing BigTen officials). We owe it to our children much less our selves to investigate the other angles. And, with this intertubes thingy we just might expose those other voices to the now and future provincial. WD you have a winter break ahead of you, and a seemingly precocious mind. Go google the British ambassador + Wikileaks. It's my Festivus gift to you!
Don't fret Im a woman....But then I do play for the other team <<<I know the reading comp of our cohort is such that no further explanation is required >>> <<<geomagnetically lost HairlessOnes and Sparties, you're on yer own>>>
No really. You have sung my lament in two chords. I'm a bit indifferent to the "studs" meme, not because it's not repugnant (it is), but then Im going to bet you my NewCrush, that those that use "stud" in a sentence on this board are rather derogatory in their musings on we womenz, as well. Just a quickly flung together theory. Lemme know what you think.
As to the TechMonsters..... I started out as one of them so long ago the industry was called "Systems". Have studied technological change at our fair University back in the dark ages (30odd years ago), I could extrapolate a date in the then distant <ha> future where, if all we system folk were successful, well..... here we be. What drives me crazy, as I now am mostly a customer and only secondarily a designer is the arrogance you correctly attribute to the industry. This isnt "Michigan arrogance", either. This is a group of people who have determined to maximize one variable (their profit) even as the appropriate objective fuction demands we optimize "their" profit with the impacts on THE REST OF US. Even Henry Ford saw in 3d where these smug bastards can only see 1d. And as they foist system testing (for which I got paid a decent wage out of school) on all of us users, I am afraid it gets worse before better...<grrr>
And then there are those somnambulants in the left lane. You cite all the hoary results of their mindless (at best) or even selfish (at worst) behavior. I recently drove the highways of Italy. Friends and family were most worried on my behalf. Alas, it was a revelation. People stay right, and only move left...... TO PASS. Crazy, eh? I would drive the highways of Italy anyday before those in the US. Who really are the crazy drivers?
Thanks for letting me resonate with you WaHoo, and Happy Festivus!
Under the tutelage of my mother (who had season tickets while I was en utero) I saw my first game in 1971 as a six year old. I agonized thru the awfulness that was 73 and 74, in my most formative years. I marched in the band while Jimmy (whom I knew living in South Quad) played QB. Took my mother to the 98 Rose Bowl (yes, THAT one). The joy was sublime. The years 07 - 14 were truly a Biblical desert in their woe. Kept my season tickets thru it all. And then Jimmy came home. Our son of a bitch. But even our son of a bitch needs time to replenish the cupboards and return the menu to the Michelin level he (and we old farts) knew to be Michigan. Im more than fine with that.
Iowa was a behavioral echo of undefeated Bo-led teams losing in places like West Lafayette or Iowa City. Excruciating, but almost comfortable in its similarity to the Bo era. And then that travesty in Columbus. Even Woody would not (could not?) have rigged such an officiating farce. I watched that game with a feeling, for the first time in 45 years, that the fates, gods, Satanic overlords (fill in your telelogical construct) were really screwing us. My mother shook her head and reminded me that 73-74 was much the same in the bureacratically induced pain and bitterness.
I am done watching CFB for the season. I am still too sick to my stomach as to the rigging. I wish there was a way for us to affect a change to a more level playing field, but I fear that like everything in our society the money is just too much, and the extent to which it is used to alter events and policies by those with not a shred of integrity is too great. And if Michigan were ever to "play along to get along", that would be a permanent end to all things CFB for me.
I know there are many on this board that feel the same. Frankly I wish there were more, as the changes needed in CFB, not to mention our country will require a critical mass demanding redress. 240 years ago (yes, Im going there) it took 10% of the pop to DEMAND change. Until then?
Your choice is to accept the screw and hope that Jimmy can manifest a team that is so great as to be impervious to the screw (on to the Orange Bowl!), or check out entirely. I am currently in Option #2, but will probably be pulled (by my 45 year love for all things Maize and Blue) into Option #1 when season tickets reup. Like your friends, it wont take much for me to go Option #2 permanently. Got that Mr. Delany?
I sincerely hope that Manuel is bashing on the back-channels to insure that that travesty in Columbus never happens again. I expect Jimmy will come out of this annealed with an even stronger strength in the spine. Should we have to be 120% better than every team we play? Apparently.
My grandfather played tackle in the 1920 Grey Cup. No face mask, no chin strap. When he showed me the "proper" way to tackle circa 1970, it was with SHOULDERS! around THIGHS!
Perhaps we should return to leather helmets, too. I'm only half joking.
I was born in Ann Arbor to parents who had season tickets. You could say I was gestated in maize 'n blue amniotic fluid.
But I was raised in Cleveland, and so peripherally was a Browns fan. Indeed, my sorority sister's father had 50yd line seats for us to witness John Elway's "Drive" - a Brown's version of the 2015 MSU play I also witnessed firsthand.
When the NFL sleazily, indeed fraudulantly (if you were a Maryland taxpayer that is) ripped the Browns out of Cleveland and deposited them in Baltimore over 20 years ago, I, even as I love football, swore to never engage the NFL as an organization again. For surely, if they could rip the hearts out of faithfuls like Clevelanders, who was immune to their scheming? And I just refused to participate in the actions of such sleazeballs.
Some who know me question my logical consistantcy when they are faced with my rabid GoBlueocity. I tell them, "Show me the scenario where the NCAA or any other organization moves the Wolverines from Ann Arbor."
It amazes me to this day how the NFL has bought allegences to teams with such a fickle, brittle, even arbitrary ties to their localities. I just shake my head in amazement at how we humans have such a tenacious urge to belong to a tribe, what we will do for it (I mean look at the culture of our main rivals!) and how the NFL has done such a glorious job of exploiting it and screwing people over on it at the same time. A major disintermediation on these folks a la music, travel, even retail, will be glorious. Now if we could just do the same with the Banksters.....
It's the end of the Big Money world as <the NFL> knows it,
It's pretty clear to me that TPTB, the fates, the stars, the cards, or the fix (take your pick) was pushing pretty hard to, if not insure a Sparty win, well certainly beat the spread.....
Even in the face of that, with a hardscrabble transitional QB-lacking team, these guys came to within a whispers' breath of winning. When Harbaugh has his team, they will not be in a position where that last play means didley. Curses are the realm of the weak-willed. I say FU to curses on at least a weekly basis. Those with whom I interact that have achieved success do the same. I went to school with Jimmy. He's a dick. But in this case, a dick is a good thing; a dick says FU to curses....
"We are what we think; our thoughts create the world." - The Buddha
Born in A2 in 65 to Clevelanders. Moved to the Cleve in 1970. First Indians game 1970. First Browns game 1978. First Cavs game 1979. I was there when John Elway marched 98 yards to beat the Browns in the playoffs in 86. As a member of the MMB, I saw the Tigers win the World Series in 1984 and even as it was great fun, I knew it wasnt my team. I watched the Indians lose to the Braves in the 1995 World Series 1-0. I also watched them lose to the Marlins in teh first game of the 97 Series. Of course they lost in 7 in the 9th inning.... In my FIFTY YEARS no Cleveland professional team has won its championship. No other city can match that "claim to fame".
Yeah, the travails of the Michigan fan are long and hard. But, woe to be a Cleveland fan....
I was telling the 70 something woman behind us that my 75 yr old mother (next me) was seeing all her teams (UM, Cubs, Browns) win for like the first time evah. And then..... Of course the Cubs are currently losing.... I would bet HEAVILY against the Browns tomorrow.....
The most raucous stadium experience I ever experienced was Madison 1985.
There was no piped-in music. Let me repeat: THERE WAS NO PIPED IN MUSIC.
The students did Tequila, Beer Barrel Polka, Hot Time, and several others I cant remember at this point, all over the place. It was NUTS! The few times the Badgers were actually in the game (this was pre Alvarez) they made enough noise to befuddle our Wolverines. I remember telling my sorority sister. "It's a good thing they're not good, or we might be in trouble!"
I mean really: it's thirty years ago and I STILL REMEMBER how awsome that "Stadium Atmosphere Experience" was, and it was ALL BAND. Of course we need a band director to, well, lead the band.....
If I was a recruit from Florida and Texas, and I came into that stadium, with those helmuts, with Harbaugh at coach, that band playing, and fans acting like the ones in Madison..... Ohhhhhh DAMN!!! the chills! Your shit pop/rap aint doin NOTHIN'!
Met the man at an alumni event roughly four years ago today.
Repugnant in his smug arrogance. I watched the next three and 1/2 years in pain. So very glad that he showed himself to be not just an ass but REALLY an ass so that we could finally be rid of him.
Met Hoke the same day. I do wish he had had more fortitude because for every bit of an ass Brandon showed himself to be, Hoke was warm and sincere and you could read his integrity. Neccesary but unfortunately not sufficient......
Summer of 2011 alumni meet and greet with coaches in NYC. Came hopeful and excited. Left feeling impending doom foreseeing all that lay ahead (and now thankfully behind) us......
There was a thread the other night that sung the praises of the mgoblogosphere in contrast to the real world, where the real world was (not in my words) 65% idiots....
4 people upclicked "Maize/Highlighter observation - 1 downclicked. Yes we are still a respite from the real world, but Im worried about the trend....
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I grew up in Ohio.
I was in the band in '86 when Harbaugh beat them. We missed the last half of the 4th quarter because we were literally evacuated. While leaving, troglodytes threw batteries at us so as to dent our horns. Ya.
I will never step foot in that cesspit again.
You might wish to re-evaluate your perspective.
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Which do you prefer:
Fatigues or jailhouse?
Go to ESPN.com. there is a raw feed, and it is AWESOME!
Child, I mean Enfante looks 40yrs old.
I remember another…
Damn.
I remember another fatal wrong way M14 crash just a few years ago.
You may discount that observation except that I moved from SE Lower Michigan 25 years ago, and recall only one wrong way traffic incident in my adopted metro area since then. That metro area is much larger than SE Lower Michigan.
MDOT: wtf makes M14 so ripe for wrongways?!
Amen.
I went to high school with Don. He was badass and very fit. He apparently had Icarus syndrome, as well. RIP Don.
Having read the article, I find it relates the demise of my classmate Don Cash. What a waste! It is no longer about summiting Everest; it is now waiting around until you asphyxiate. Shut it down.
I found out this…
WTF.
I found out this morning one of my high school classmates died on Everest this week, and then this post shows up in my feeds ninety minutes later.
I had been experiencing a number of synchronicities recently, all light and breezy. I prefer they stay that way.
Carry on.
In absolute agreement with your thought process.
How…
Unforced error indeed.
How could Warde et al have such a tin ear?
This move turns my stomach.
And that team's field leader is now sideline leader.
Is Rutgers causal or symptomatic?
New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island..... and Canada....
One of these things is not like the other....
Was I so provincially obnoxious (or is that obnoxiously provincial?) as an undergrad? Perhaps, although I just dont think so..... So my grievance: provincially obnoxious provinciality!
Visiting a former Soviet Republic (not the Russian one) fifteen years ago was quite an eye-opener either way. The British ambassador to that country lived three doors down from the friends I was visiting. He now is taking responsibility for the Wikileaks handoff blamed on WD's Russians (and Sarah Palin's neighbors). WD (et al) you might want to google Wikileaks + British + ambassador. Your eyes will be opened with force. Having met said ambassador and with the verification of my friends of twenty years none of what he says is "fake".
History, heretofore, has been written by the winners (often employing BigTen officials). We owe it to our children much less our selves to investigate the other angles. And, with this intertubes thingy we just might expose those other voices to the now and future provincial. WD you have a winter break ahead of you, and a seemingly precocious mind. Go google the British ambassador + Wikileaks. It's my Festivus gift to you!
No really.
The Bard could learn a few shakes from this post......
Don't fret Im a woman....But then I do play for the other team <<<I know the reading comp of our cohort is such that no further explanation is required >>> <<<geomagnetically lost HairlessOnes and Sparties, you're on yer own>>>
No really. You have sung my lament in two chords. I'm a bit indifferent to the "studs" meme, not because it's not repugnant (it is), but then Im going to bet you my NewCrush, that those that use "stud" in a sentence on this board are rather derogatory in their musings on we womenz, as well. Just a quickly flung together theory. Lemme know what you think.
As to the TechMonsters..... I started out as one of them so long ago the industry was called "Systems". Have studied technological change at our fair University back in the dark ages (30odd years ago), I could extrapolate a date in the then distant <ha> future where, if all we system folk were successful, well..... here we be. What drives me crazy, as I now am mostly a customer and only secondarily a designer is the arrogance you correctly attribute to the industry. This isnt "Michigan arrogance", either. This is a group of people who have determined to maximize one variable (their profit) even as the appropriate objective fuction demands we optimize "their" profit with the impacts on THE REST OF US. Even Henry Ford saw in 3d where these smug bastards can only see 1d. And as they foist system testing (for which I got paid a decent wage out of school) on all of us users, I am afraid it gets worse before better...<grrr>
And then there are those somnambulants in the left lane. You cite all the hoary results of their mindless (at best) or even selfish (at worst) behavior. I recently drove the highways of Italy. Friends and family were most worried on my behalf. Alas, it was a revelation. People stay right, and only move left...... TO PASS. Crazy, eh? I would drive the highways of Italy anyday before those in the US. Who really are the crazy drivers?
Thanks for letting me resonate with you WaHoo, and Happy Festivus!
Look
There is no justice.
Look around, everywhere you look: no justice.
Under the tutelage of my mother (who had season tickets while I was en utero) I saw my first game in 1971 as a six year old. I agonized thru the awfulness that was 73 and 74, in my most formative years. I marched in the band while Jimmy (whom I knew living in South Quad) played QB. Took my mother to the 98 Rose Bowl (yes, THAT one). The joy was sublime. The years 07 - 14 were truly a Biblical desert in their woe. Kept my season tickets thru it all. And then Jimmy came home. Our son of a bitch. But even our son of a bitch needs time to replenish the cupboards and return the menu to the Michelin level he (and we old farts) knew to be Michigan. Im more than fine with that.
Iowa was a behavioral echo of undefeated Bo-led teams losing in places like West Lafayette or Iowa City. Excruciating, but almost comfortable in its similarity to the Bo era. And then that travesty in Columbus. Even Woody would not (could not?) have rigged such an officiating farce. I watched that game with a feeling, for the first time in 45 years, that the fates, gods, Satanic overlords (fill in your telelogical construct) were really screwing us. My mother shook her head and reminded me that 73-74 was much the same in the bureacratically induced pain and bitterness.
I am done watching CFB for the season. I am still too sick to my stomach as to the rigging. I wish there was a way for us to affect a change to a more level playing field, but I fear that like everything in our society the money is just too much, and the extent to which it is used to alter events and policies by those with not a shred of integrity is too great. And if Michigan were ever to "play along to get along", that would be a permanent end to all things CFB for me.
I know there are many on this board that feel the same. Frankly I wish there were more, as the changes needed in CFB, not to mention our country will require a critical mass demanding redress. 240 years ago (yes, Im going there) it took 10% of the pop to DEMAND change. Until then?
Your choice is to accept the screw and hope that Jimmy can manifest a team that is so great as to be impervious to the screw (on to the Orange Bowl!), or check out entirely. I am currently in Option #2, but will probably be pulled (by my 45 year love for all things Maize and Blue) into Option #1 when season tickets reup. Like your friends, it wont take much for me to go Option #2 permanently. Got that Mr. Delany?
I sincerely hope that Manuel is bashing on the back-channels to insure that that travesty in Columbus never happens again. I expect Jimmy will come out of this annealed with an even stronger strength in the spine. Should we have to be 120% better than every team we play? Apparently.
Cbus is heavy on the fluoride.
Does tOSU have a graduate school?
And with Mr. Pickles involved, we have a parasitic issue of epic proportions.
I was born in Ann Arbor to parents who had season tickets. You could say I was gestated in maize 'n blue amniotic fluid.
But I was raised in Cleveland, and so peripherally was a Browns fan. Indeed, my sorority sister's father had 50yd line seats for us to witness John Elway's "Drive" - a Brown's version of the 2015 MSU play I also witnessed firsthand.
When the NFL sleazily, indeed fraudulantly (if you were a Maryland taxpayer that is) ripped the Browns out of Cleveland and deposited them in Baltimore over 20 years ago, I, even as I love football, swore to never engage the NFL as an organization again. For surely, if they could rip the hearts out of faithfuls like Clevelanders, who was immune to their scheming? And I just refused to participate in the actions of such sleazeballs.
Some who know me question my logical consistantcy when they are faced with my rabid GoBlueocity. I tell them, "Show me the scenario where the NCAA or any other organization moves the Wolverines from Ann Arbor."
It amazes me to this day how the NFL has bought allegences to teams with such a fickle, brittle, even arbitrary ties to their localities. I just shake my head in amazement at how we humans have such a tenacious urge to belong to a tribe, what we will do for it (I mean look at the culture of our main rivals!) and how the NFL has done such a glorious job of exploiting it and screwing people over on it at the same time. A major disintermediation on these folks a la music, travel, even retail, will be glorious. Now if we could just do the same with the Banksters.....
It's the end of the Big Money world as <the NFL> knows it,
and I feel fine!
Well, isn't that just the perfect ending to the most egregious exhibit of derilict officiating evah*.
*Well, in this case "evah" relates to this "old lady's" (right Spike?) frame of reference ie 45 years of going to Michigan Stadium....
Well ya are one, now aren't ya?
My high school band director went on to be the band director at Kansas State. Yeah that guy....
It's pretty clear to me that TPTB, the fates, the stars, the cards, or the fix (take your pick) was pushing pretty hard to, if not insure a Sparty win, well certainly beat the spread.....
Even in the face of that, with a hardscrabble transitional QB-lacking team, these guys came to within a whispers' breath of winning. When Harbaugh has his team, they will not be in a position where that last play means didley. Curses are the realm of the weak-willed. I say FU to curses on at least a weekly basis. Those with whom I interact that have achieved success do the same. I went to school with Jimmy. He's a dick. But in this case, a dick is a good thing; a dick says FU to curses....
"We are what we think; our thoughts create the world." - The Buddha
Is that you Jeff?
We are what we think; all that arises, arises with our thoughts.....
- The Buddha
You're a Michigan grad. I expect you can make the extrapolations. We should ALL make the extrapolations......
Overheard in Section 24:
My Kingdom for a Quarterback!
Born in A2 in 65 to Clevelanders. Moved to the Cleve in 1970. First Indians game 1970. First Browns game 1978. First Cavs game 1979. I was there when John Elway marched 98 yards to beat the Browns in the playoffs in 86. As a member of the MMB, I saw the Tigers win the World Series in 1984 and even as it was great fun, I knew it wasnt my team. I watched the Indians lose to the Braves in the 1995 World Series 1-0. I also watched them lose to the Marlins in teh first game of the 97 Series. Of course they lost in 7 in the 9th inning.... In my FIFTY YEARS no Cleveland professional team has won its championship. No other city can match that "claim to fame".
Yeah, the travails of the Michigan fan are long and hard. But, woe to be a Cleveland fan....
I was telling the 70 something woman behind us that my 75 yr old mother (next me) was seeing all her teams (UM, Cubs, Browns) win for like the first time evah. And then..... Of course the Cubs are currently losing.... I would bet HEAVILY against the Browns tomorrow.....
The most raucous stadium experience I ever experienced was Madison 1985.
There was no piped-in music. Let me repeat: THERE WAS NO PIPED IN MUSIC.
The students did Tequila, Beer Barrel Polka, Hot Time, and several others I cant remember at this point, all over the place. It was NUTS! The few times the Badgers were actually in the game (this was pre Alvarez) they made enough noise to befuddle our Wolverines. I remember telling my sorority sister. "It's a good thing they're not good, or we might be in trouble!"
I mean really: it's thirty years ago and I STILL REMEMBER how awsome that "Stadium Atmosphere Experience" was, and it was ALL BAND. Of course we need a band director to, well, lead the band.....
If I was a recruit from Florida and Texas, and I came into that stadium, with those helmuts, with Harbaugh at coach, that band playing, and fans acting like the ones in Madison..... Ohhhhhh DAMN!!! the chills! Your shit pop/rap aint doin NOTHIN'!
Met the man at an alumni event roughly four years ago today.
Repugnant in his smug arrogance. I watched the next three and 1/2 years in pain. So very glad that he showed himself to be not just an ass but REALLY an ass so that we could finally be rid of him.
Met Hoke the same day. I do wish he had had more fortitude because for every bit of an ass Brandon showed himself to be, Hoke was warm and sincere and you could read his integrity. Neccesary but unfortunately not sufficient......
My mother has said that Michigan always gets the bum deal on officiating for at least 40 years now. I used to think she was paranoid.....
No interference on MSU in the endzone for Desmond....
Charles White's touchdown...
Well your credo is certainly in line with your login name, now in' it?
Id short it if it wasnt private......
I too met him, and YES! he was an ass hole.
Summer of 2011 alumni meet and greet with coaches in NYC. Came hopeful and excited. Left feeling impending doom foreseeing all that lay ahead (and now thankfully behind) us......
Ya are a spiteful little guy arent ye now...
Ye heart be of de scarlet en grey variety dint de be.....
There was a thread the other night that sung the praises of the mgoblogosphere in contrast to the real world, where the real world was (not in my words) 65% idiots....
4 people upclicked "Maize/Highlighter observation - 1 downclicked. Yes we are still a respite from the real world, but Im worried about the trend....
You LIKE HIGHLIGHLIGHTER!?!?!?!??!
Seriously?!
Its one thing to have to look at highlighter yellow masquerading as Maize.
Its entirely another thing to watch another team do Maize better than we do.....