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It was Darrion Henry, 6’6”…

It was Darrion Henry, 6’6” SDE from Cincinnati that was next to Thomas speaking to Chase.

Dead to me!

Dead to me!

Gray Lot

Anything to know about parking in the Gray Lot?

Based on Lorenz's info, that

Based on Lorenz's info, that 4.58 40 time looks like it deserves only 1 or 2 FAKES out of 5 - apparently Michigan timed him themselves. I think that's the explanation right there. He's the Joe Milton of TE prospects - monster physical talent in a raw package.

In Harbaugh we must trust - he's earned the benefit of the doubt. I sympathize with those concerned about the ratings gap with OSU, but that is going to continue because Michigan scouts and recruits without regard to ratings, while Urban seeks to recruit based on the service ratings, at least in some significant part (has been confirmed by Sam Webb).

The Golden State

The Golden State Wolverines??!! The Michigan Warriors??!!

GO BLUE!!

Things we are over?!

"Over Macho Grande?"

"I'll never be over Macho Grande!"

Brutal...life is fragile.

Brutal...life is fragile. Best to him and all those battling this insidious disease.

"Enjoy every sandwich" - Warren Zevon

Tom Herman

Silver lining for Delance at Texas is he'll probably end up playing for Tom Herman in 2017.

Leavitt

Seems like Leavitt would be best to go coach Indiana high school football in Hickory with that on his record...small town, but they've had other success rehabing coaches with anger problems.  Maybe he wins the state championship!

Is that like Tobias Funke was

Is that like Tobias Funke was a hybrid analyst/therapist? You should see his business cards.

I have to say thanks to all

I have to say thanks to all of the other cereals that recruited me at my breakfast table over the years - I'm truly blessed with so many great choices and cereal mascots. However, I'm announcing my top 5 cereals, in no order:

Fruity Pebbles
peanut Butter Crunch
Crunch Berries (the "just berries")
CTC
Frosted Flakes (so much tradition)

"3 sticking out"

He reported what amounts to his top 3 at the moment as UGA, FSU and Bama.

Given how long Michigan has been recruiting him, it would seem that is not a promising sign at this point.

Please take it to the holier

Please take it to the holier than thou board.

Yeah, stop letting the facts

Yeah, stop letting the facts get in the way of a good story!!

Except that Stanford had

Except that Stanford had Andrew Luck. I'm all for believing that Harbaugh won with less talented Stanford teams, but Luck kinda helped with that.

Stealin' ur doodz

Stealin' ur doodz

M-Dog is obviously correct. 

M-Dog is obviously correct.  That the Fab 5 made it to the final and were competitive in the first half was unbelievable - and it was quite a ride. 

Compared to where the team was the year before made it that much more stunning. 

Good lord, Bill Frieder was a

Good lord, Bill Frieder was a mediocre coach at best...he could recruit, to be sure, but HE was the Ron Zook OR Will Muschamp (whichever you prefer) of Michigan.  In my opinion, the '89 team had no shot of winning the NC with Frieder, and got lucky that he bailed and Fisher was able to coach the team (whatever your opinion of Fisher in the long run).

The team under Frieder was a major underachiever - 12-6 in the Big Ten in spite of the top 6 guys all having NBA talent (Rice, Vaught, Robinson, Mills, Higgins, Hughes)!  Frieder had an incredibly short bench (refused to practically let Calip on the court), got soundly beaten by Illinois in the final regular season game in Ann Arbor, got beaten by Alaska Anchorage(!), etc.  Frieder was too laid back and the teams were too undisciplined to win.  At least with respect to the '89 National Championship, we got lucky that he bailed when he did.

Doesn't need to be the case

Not sure why that's necessarily the case. I'm sure they record the whole practice so no issue with the coaches reviewing film of the portion of a practice they couldn't catch in person. If they don't it makes no sense these days.

The view of insiders is that

The view of insiders is that it is the late start that the staff got on 2016 that is causing the commitment drought but the ball will start rolling in the near future.  Take it FWIW.

Over at 247, Wiltfong

Over at 247, Wiltfong expressed the opinion that Peters is arguably a better prospect than Costello, so I wouldn't be too bummed other than the potentially missed opportunity to have a big time CA prospect pushing UM for a year to other CA recruits.

Blake Bars at 6'5" 281 lbs -

Blake Bars at 6'5" 281 lbs - not going to see the field at OG at that size.

Get them to sign on the line

Get them to sign on the line which is dotted!

I'm all for these threads,

I'm all for these threads, even if duplicative (within reason) - if it helps a kid to get attention he otherwise wouldn't have gotten (which is certainly possible), go for it.  No shame in that.

I believe it's already

I believe it's already reported he has no interest.

I'm a bit concerned that the

I'm a bit concerned that the number of high level power 5 commits and very in demand 5 star types are too high relative to their likelihood of choosing Michigan in 3 weeks or so - would like to see more Norfleet and Christian types (mid/lower level power 5 commits or offers) getting attention.  2016 will undoubtedly be a great class, but we don't want a giant hole where 2015 was. 

Brian Kelly

Now if we could only get the Raiders and Jets to interview Brian Kelly, we'd really be in business...

From "Coach Visit Tracker" on NFL.com

from today (Jan. 5):

 

..."Rapoport reported that other potential candidates for the [Niners] coaching job include Ravens offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, 49ers defensive line coach Jim Tomsula, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, Browns offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and UCLA head coach Jim Mora. McDaniels interviewed with the Niners on Saturday."

Russel Wilson did it from NC

ack! Double post.

Russel Wilson did it from NC

Russel Wilson did it from NC St. To Wisconsin

Redshirt

Best thing that could happen to Morris in the long term is for Hogan to come and start all next year and allow Shane to redshirt since he wasn't able to at the beginning. Has to use the year to work hard with Harbaugh.

2016 would look like ths:

Morris (RS Jr.)
Speight (RS Soph)
Malzone (RS Fr)
2016 recruit

Wins.

That is all.

Nothing earth shattering here, but

hear it directly from some of the recruits:

 

http://usatodayhss.com/2014/michigan-all-staters-might-consider-wolverines-if-jim-harbaugh-is-coach

 

 

@sleeper

if Harbaugh does anything close to that in 4 years at Michigan, given his success in SF, he'll have his pick of NFL jobs IF HE WANTS THEM (he of course may not at that point).

That's why I think he'll take the job - NFL will always be there, but the Michigan job may never be open again at the right time for Harbaugh.

Without access to the

Without access to the contract, I can't know for sure (and this in no way constitutes legal advice and no one should rely on it) but there would seem to be no reason that he couldn't sign a contract that was contingent on the termination of his 49ers contract in accordance with its terms. 

In the contract is undoubtedly a representation that the contract doesn't conflict with any agreement to which Harbaugh is a party (no such thing as "illegal" in conflicting contracts - the question is whether it constitutes a breach of an existing contract) - if it doesn't kick in until the other one goes away, shouldn't be an issue.

Did they do this?  No idea.

Harbaugh?

harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh! MGO HARBAUGH? Harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh Garbaugh Harbaugh Harbauuuuuuugh!!!!!!

You would all be reacting

You would all be reacting differently to this thread if it had been entitled "highly experienced coach at NFL factory St. Thomas Aquinas High of Florida heavily recommends Wisconsin over Michigan to its high level recruits."

That it is Chris Carter who is the source of that doesn't make it any better or less concerning, in my view.  In fact, to me it makes it worse - I actually believe he knows what he's talking about.

Carter wasn't saying it

Carter wasn't saying it couldn't be turned around, but he was saying that:

 

1.  15-19 kids don't care about the "tradition" of schools for the most part

2.  Even the right coach would need a few years to turn things around completely because in the St. Thomas Aquinas's staff view at least we don't have a team of NFL sized type people (obviously there are exceptions like Funchess, etc.) on the whole, while the OSU/Wiscy/Florida/USC types do already.

 

You can choose to dismiss these views if you wish.  I find them a bit disconcerting. 

I listened to the segment

I listened to the segment this morning, and I thought it was very concerning not because of the comments of Mike & Mike, but because of what Chris Carter had to say - now, I'm aware of his OSU background of course, but he essentially said that he coaches at St. Thomas Aquinas High in Florida and was comparing their views regarding sending their kids to Wisconsin vs. sending them to Michigan.

 

[here's a link to an article on the schools football products - a factory]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000355190/article/floridas-st-thomas-aquinas-high-leads-in-producing-nfl-talent

Basically, he said they think Wiscy is a great program and they like to send kids there because of the academics and how they get them ready for the NFL, but that Michigan while great academically hasn't been doing a good job essentially (though he didn't say it directly) in the S&C program - thus he was shocked at how "tiny" the team as a whole looked in comparison to OSU when he was on the field at the game.

I think given his position as a coach there this is definitely thread worthy and that downvoting for something you don't agree with or like is silly.  Not good that a HS program like that has a dim view of Michigan at the moment.

doing more than that - he's

doing more than that - he's issuing a non denial denial.

 

IT'S HAPPENING [?]

I still thin Pat Shurmur

I still thin Pat Shurmur should be a candidate - way better than Schiano, Addazio, et al.

I think the ultimate question

I think the ultimate question to answer at the outset is:

Aussuming he wants to stay in the NFL, Would Harbaugh allow Michigan to twist in the wind to use the job to leverage the 49ers to deal him where he wants to go, or would he not place his own interests first and tell M upfront that he isn't interested so they can move on? The answer to that question would tell you where we really are.

Shawn Hunwick

I think the most apt comparison is Shawn Hunwick (yes, I wish he wasn't white so it didn't seem like I picked it because of that) - both highly skilled and able to display it on the college level. Neither could (likely in Spike's case - would love if he proved me wrong) translate that at the pro level when the size and athleticism gets out of hand for everyone on the court/ice, but that doesn't mean he can't be a great college player. I think the grit thing is wildly unfair to Spike.

Now Novak - he was grit.

Todd Graham and Pat Schurmur

My choice I think (assuming no Harbaugh and no Miles) would be Todd Graham - may have been a bit of a tool for how his Pitt departure was handled, but he ticks all the boxes:  successful head coach in multiple jobs, midwest experience, recruiting, etc.

Obviously this isn't on the table, but I'm a bit surprised that Pat Schurmur hasn't gotten any play for any of these college HC jobs, including Michigan.  He grew up in Michigan, went to MSU, coached for MSU for a long time so has plenty of college experience, is a West Coast Offense guy originally so he'd be a personnel fit, coaches under Chip Kelly now as Eagles OC so he has seen how Chip takes advantage of defenses and can work some of that in along with tempo if he wants.  His Brown stint was short enough that there's no reason to really hold that against him.  Could do a lot worse in my opinion

He really is the most

He really is the most likeable football player ever. 

That game was a classic...

...Dead Cat Bounce. But I'll take what I can get.

I actually think that was a

I actually think that was a pretty fair presentation of the situation.

My guess/take

FWIW, my best guess as to why Hoke said what he said at the presser was that Brandon told him they were going to put out a statement that said they didn't know he had taken a blow to the head but there was no diagnosis at the time of a concussion - they'd take the blame for not following the proceedure properly and say they'd get it fixed, but no real harm done.  Deflect the questions to the statement to come, don't admit anything, and CYA accomplished.

However, it would seem that the Drs. didn't cooperate - they refused to sign off on a release that said Morris didn't have a concussion (thus the dissembling "probable, mild concussion" - I can hear the argument now with Brandon saying "is there ever a way to guarantee that there was a concussion?!"  and when the Docs have to say of course not, it's a diagnosis but no guarantee, he jams the word "probable" in there).  So when the release finally comes out, Hoke looks like an idiot (now proven to be either that or a liar or both) because they couldn't coerce the medical staff into cooperating with the probable, mild coverup.

Rock Bottom

We have reached rock bottom...and are starting to dig.

Assuming no Harbaugh (either)

Should look at Mike Munchak - HOF O Lineman, Penn State alum (with Franklin there not likely to have his alma matter job opening up any time soon), NFL head coaching experience, OL coach

I'd also be interested in Jeff Fisher if he gets fired by St.L., but that seems unlikely.

I'd try to keep Mattison around to help adjusting to the recruiting/college game, though he may refuse if Hoke is fired.