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09/22/2018 - 9:41pm Indiana is setting a down on…

Indiana is setting a down on fire every series running into the strongest unit on State’s team.  Did Debord see what worked on their scoring drive and then decide to do the exact opposite of that for the rest of the game?

09/22/2018 - 8:43pm We have ourselves a ball…

We have ourselves a ball game.  Indiana should put it up, constantly.  State is weak and thin in the secondary.  Put it up, Debord.

09/22/2018 - 8:41pm ^^^ This.  They need to air…

^^^ This.  They need to air this shit out.  State’s secondary can be had.  Stop running into the best unit on their D!!

09/21/2018 - 2:35pm Oh no, I share your funny…

Oh no, I share your funny business feelings as well.  I was just curious as to how both of these offensively challenged teams racked up those numbers.

09/21/2018 - 2:31pm Yeah, it took me until about…

Yeah, it took me until about the 14:00 minute mark of the first quarter of the Michigan v. ND game this year to realize that I did not need more Michigan v. ND in my life. 

09/21/2018 - 2:27pm Yeah, I'm not buying that…

Yeah, I'm not buying that either.  If anything, the fact that they are as gross and despicable as they are makes them more of a rival, not less.  And the series is like a dead heat since the "modern era" of college football began (1990ish).  They are a rival.  There is no point in arguing otherwise.

09/21/2018 - 2:22pm It was Purdue who told…

It was Purdue who told Speight to walk up the street to the clinic, right, now Iowa?

09/21/2018 - 2:17pm Honestly, I think the ND…

Honestly, I think the ND rivalry over MSU narrative is BS.  Not only is Michigan State an in-state rivalry, we play in the same division and our chance at the BTT game basically begins and ends with that game every year.  We lost this year to ND and it did absolutely nothing to our BIG chances and arguably nothing to CFB Playoff chances.  I know there is a lot of history between the schools but we have only played them like 40 times. 

Frankly, I think both Michigan v. Michigan State and Notre Dame v. Michigan State are bigger rivalries than Michigan v. Notre Dame.

09/21/2018 - 2:05pm Interesting.  So how does…

Interesting.  So how does this go down?  Martinez plays and we can't contain him on the ground?  Bad turnovers deep in our territory?  A four overtime game where the actual score was 13-13?

If we were to lose the game, I think the most likely scenario is that our non-SMU offense shits the bed and we lose like 17-13.  A high scoring loss did not enter my mind.

09/21/2018 - 2:00pm It has been a very good,…

It has been a very good, balanced series since they joined the BIG, but I don't think it could be classified as a "rivalry."  There just isn't a geographical or other notable historical connection between the schools to separate from any other game.  Both teams are typically very good, but it isn't a "rivalry."

09/21/2018 - 1:25pm I think Michigan will score…

I think Michigan will score more points than Nebraska.  Anything more specific than that and I have nothing to offer.  I can't get a handle on Michigan.  I can't get a handle on Nebraska.  

09/21/2018 - 12:49pm I'm not sure that adds up. …

I'm not sure that adds up.  If he does have an injured shoulder, is there any reason that he would play against Western and SMU?  Why not rest him.  I don't care what injury it is, rest pretty much helps it, right?  If he was legitimately hurt, why play him at all the last two weeks?

09/21/2018 - 12:44pm I don't really think the…

I don't really think the slants are much of a concern.  It appears that SMU looked at Michigan's entire defense and deduced that, based on their personnel, they could complete slants against our safeties to get some chunk yards here and there.  I don't think I have ever seen a team "slanted to death" or where the slant with an immediate tackle after the catch becomes so unstoppable and damaging to a defense that it loses the game.  Eventually the field shrinks on the offense and they can't keep going to that well.

My concern has more to do with the PI calls.  Our cornerbacks under Brown have always been grabby.  They almost have to be to play that kind of press man.  They are very good players but at some point you are either Dion Sanders or you aren't.  I know the consensus is that the PI calls were bad, and while the calls on Hill this year have been kind of 50/50, our d-backs do initiate a lot of contact with receivers and I worry that the word is out and we will see this parade of flags going forward.

09/21/2018 - 11:26am In what way?  Just curious. …

In what way?  Just curious.  I don't think I saw that thread.

09/21/2018 - 9:40am Indiana is particularly…

Agreed.  I expect State to win but it would not shock me if Indiana took it to them.  It is a nice little night game for the BIG opening weekend. 

09/21/2018 - 9:19am Yes.  2006 ND.  Probably my …

Yes.  2006 ND.  Charlie Weiss and the Irish "did their talking on the field."

Probably my "most You Tubed" Michigan football game of all time.

09/21/2018 - 9:07am Perhaps it won't count…

Perhaps it won't count toward their record, but just be a way to avoid having to refund tickets sales and not lose a Saturday of concession revenue, etc?  That could be, and not a bad idea if they can't reschedule with Akron or find another suitable opponent.

09/21/2018 - 8:56am I think tomorrow is a huge…

I think tomorrow is a huge game for State.  I think it is 50/50 right now whether that team rallies and is a tough customer for the rest of the year or that they tank and have significant issues all season.  LJ Scott has appeared disinterested, making me question why he came back, and I think they are another loss away from some significant locker room problems. 

Unlike a lot of other people, I never thought they were good last year and thought instead that they benefited a lot from some fortuitous occurrences that lead to directly to wins they would not have otherwise had.  A bowl win against a terrible opponent without their starting QB also played into a narrative of vast improvement I did not think was evident. 

Mike Valenti said late in the summer that he thought this could be "the most talented team that Dantonio has ever had."  I did a double-take to make sure I heard what I thought I did and sure enough he repeated it.  That is what State fans were expecting and I thought it was very clearly fake news.  If they do lose tomorrow, I think their season could go to a place that no State fans foresaw.

09/21/2018 - 8:50am One way or another, the end…

One way or another, the end of my life is going to involve that.... thing.  I'm sure of it now, the only question is how.

09/21/2018 - 6:36am With a targeting ejection,…

With a targeting ejection, after a lengthy review, for a player who was not on the field at the time.  And a sideline warning against Harbaugh, followed by a full media timeout.

09/20/2018 - 2:33pm If we are being completely…

If we are being completely honest, no Star Wars movie is a "good movie" in the traditional sense of such discussions.  There are movies and there are Star Wars movies.  Neither pretends to be much like the other.

09/20/2018 - 1:30pm Solo was the most…

Solo was the most entertained that I have ever been by a Star Wars franchise movie.

09/20/2018 - 9:56am I can't believe I am saying…

I can't believe I am saying this, but comparably, OSU took the "high road" when contrasted with MSU.  Even if far too late in the game, they at least acknowledged there was a problem that was handled improperly and inadequately, and while it has taken several "amended" apologies, I have to believe that Meyer understands that he can longer act as though the rules don't apply to him.

If you contrast that with Michigan State, that entire University as a culture, (fans, students, players, coaches, administration) continues to deflect and obfuscate to a truly alarming degree.  Their ability to rationalize the most ridiculous aspects of what transpires in their programs has been staggering, and has been aided significantly by a dismissive local media who protect them at every turn with minimization and false equivalencies.  That is a truly systemic issue, it is not just Izzo, or Dantonio, or just the coaches, or just Hollis (formerly) or just the media, or just the fans, etc. etc., it is very truly a comprehensive cultural problem. 

I do not understand quite how the Michigan State athletic department has reached the point it is at, or how it has been allowed to get there, but the entire identity of those programs has been completely hollowed out to the extent that it really doesn't matter whether they win or not, they are not really winning.  There are certain alums, like my dad, who has been a lifelong fan but simply does not follow Michigan State anymore because he can see the forest for the trees and no longer sees anything in those programs "worth rooting for."  It is one thing for an institution to not be defined by specific ideals, it is quite another for it to be distinctly defined as the lack of anything resembling them. 

09/19/2018 - 4:00pm I just mean that roughly 4…

I just mean that roughly 4 times per week heavy favorites are taken to the limit or close to it, at least that is how it seems.

09/19/2018 - 3:55pm Still sucks that Paulie did…

Still sucks that Paulie did not get to watch the Rose Bowl Game.

09/19/2018 - 2:48pm Not that often in football. …

Not that often in football.  During the last few years, even when the "feels" seem to be leaning in Michigan's favor they are often obliterated in spectacular fashion.  I thought we had the "feels" in 2015 Michigan State for sure, 2016 Ohio State lined up as a nice bookend revenge game for 2006 and Harbaugh's signature moment, I thought all signs pointed toward Michigan beating Notre Dame this year.  Even last year against OSU, I thought UM as a heavy underdog finally breaking through against OSU and O'Korn making amends for his past performance had a very intriguing feel to it.  Again, not to be. 

So I guess it is fair to say that recent results in the "feels" department may be turning me into a pessimist by nature as far as football goes.  Or maybe my "feels" are just completely off-base entirely which means that Michigan will win 56-0 this weekend.

09/19/2018 - 1:47pm Nope.

Rocky V never…

Nope.

Rocky V never happened.

 

09/19/2018 - 1:36pm It somebody cutting onions? …

It somebody cutting onions?  

Pollen alert today?

09/19/2018 - 1:26pm Has there ever been a…

Has there ever been a substantial coaching change without "internal problems?"  That is kind of a built in hazard.

09/19/2018 - 1:23pm Yeah, to properly represent…

Yeah, to properly represent Rocky IV we will need to play "Hearts on Fire." 

09/19/2018 - 1:11pm I can disagree with the …

I can disagree with the "entire football community."  The "entire football community" is literally wrong like 4 times per week.  I have never bet on a sporting event in my life and am not going to start because I think Nebraska is going to play Michigan tough.

I hope it is a blowout, I just don't think it is going to be.  I will drink a glass of really sour lemonade live on Mgoblog if I am wrong.

09/19/2018 - 1:04pm Are they doing those badass…

Are they doing those badass hanging sit ups?

09/19/2018 - 12:58pm I give the tangibles to…

I give the tangibles to Michigan heavily, but I give all the "feels" to Nebraska.  First year coach, trying to get that first win, a historical connection to the game, a freshman QB with breakout potential, Hudson out the first half.  I think there will be a heavy Nebraska lean in the narrative leading up to and during this game.

Once again, I don't think Michigan will lose the game, and I think the next two games after this will be comfortable wins, but I expect this game to be surprisingly close and am prepping myself for the taeks after it is.

09/19/2018 - 12:50pm I have a sneaking suspicion…

I have a sneaking suspicion that this game is going to be a lot closer than you think it is if Martinez plays.  I DO NOT think Michigan will lose the game.  I do, however, think there will be uncomfortable moments in the second half.  I think Scott Frost has probably been game planning semi-exclusively for this game since the Spring, and that Nebraska will be ready to compete hard in this game.

09/19/2018 - 10:26am Wait, I thought they prayed…

Wait, I thought they prayed together?

09/19/2018 - 10:25am Ok, I am finally going to…

Ok, I am finally going to bite.  The last I played organized football, it was on a crappy high school team where offensive lineman were the biggest (fattest) guys with enough agility and coordination to engage in an athletic endeavor.  A guard could be a tackle, a tackle could be a center, it really did not matter, it (I) was a big fat guy doing his best to push another one.  (Obviously I knew there were intricacies in the different positions at higher levels, but it never occurred to me that two players of roughly the same dimensions could be really good at guard, but almost excluded from consideration at tackle).

What is it about a player like this that is disqualifying from him being considered a future tackle?  The proportions are there, what is the difference between a tackle and a guard to the extent that whatever nuance involved between the positions cannot be taught to a talented and engaged recruit?  When I see that Michigan continues to recruit and get commits from "interior lineman," I ask, why can't he simply be made into a tackle.  What are the intangibles that seemingly cannot be taught?

09/18/2018 - 4:05pm Through three games, I have…

Through three games, I have seen nothing to indicate that he will leave after this season.  He has a lot of potential, but plenty to work on.

09/18/2018 - 3:23pm I either believe every word…

I either believe every word of this or absolutely none of it.

I just can't figure out which one it is yet.

09/18/2018 - 2:46pm That is a free market…

That is a free market consideration, though, and we can't have any of that.  If we could, then starting QBs and backup punters sure as shit aren't getting paid the same amount of money.

 

09/18/2018 - 2:34pm "They are not going to free…

 

 

"They are not going to free market this?"

What the hell are we talking about then?  So you want college athletes to be compensated, but paid in such a way as remove all free market considerations so that they are essentially paid for "labor."

Like...... perhaps a scholarship and stipends?

In that case I think you may be pleasantly surprised!!!

(And this argument cuts directly against your argument below where you opine that athletes in different sports would be paid different amounts.  Why?   They are only being paid for labor, right? What a mess).

09/18/2018 - 2:29pm That doesn't even factor…

That doesn't even factor into what I was saying.  Let them profit off their likeness.  Let them work.  Let them sign autographs.  Let them star in car ads, school ads, whatever.  I am all in favor of that.

09/18/2018 - 2:12pm Hilarious?  Like, you are…

Hilarious?  Like, you are laughing out loud, holding your side.  That funny?  Really?

We are not talking about the rest of the world.  We are talking about the topic at issue right now.  Note that you have not answered the questions, just talked about how hilarious they were as a deflection. 

(And I never said anything about taxes.  You threw that one in there.  Obviously any employee of any entity would have to pay taxes.  Hilarious that you couldn't figure that one out).

09/18/2018 - 1:58pm It isn't competitive balance…

It isn't competitive balance, but it is a host of other issues that make it next to impossible, and it is really odd that a lot of people cannot see the huge problems with it. 

What is required of a college player in return for their salary?  When it is earned?  Do they even have to take classes?  If they stop playing football, do they still get paid?  If not, do they still take classes?   Do they have to pass their classes to make money?  Why?  Is there any educational component whatsoever to the arrangement?  Four year or one year salaries?  What if they are never good enough to play, do they still get paid or do they have to pay the money back?  Do all athletes get paid the same amount of money, if not, how do you determine who gets paid what?  Can other schools offer current players on a team more money to play for them?  Why not? 

It isn't a sustainable idea.  It never has been.

If the economics of college football are too out of whack to be comprehensible anymore for the participants, the NFL and the NCAA should just eliminate the three year rule and begin a minor league football program for the top talent and leave the leftovers for college ball.  Paying college players like employees is actually very non-sensical and untenable.

09/18/2018 - 1:44pm I'm just here for the…

I'm just here for the outrage.

09/18/2018 - 12:37pm I don't think it rained at…

I don't remember any rain at ND.  I remember it sucking, very distinctly, but I don't remember any rain.

09/18/2018 - 12:17pm If we lose two more games…

If we lose two more games before The Game, frankly, I am probably not going to be interested enough in The Game to really be that invested in which QB starts The Game.  The Game does not happen in a vacuum, sure I would like to win The Game, but if we are playing The Game simply to spoil OSU's season, it will not mean nearly as much to me than if we won the rest of our games before The Game.

In other words, I hope the coaches do whatever they need to do to win every game before Ohio State, because if we are playing Ohio State to determine whether we are going to the Holiday Bowl or the Outback Bowl, it just doesn't mean nearly as much.

09/18/2018 - 10:23am The NFL is a mess.

The NFL is a mess.  I have trouble watching one series of NFL football, like one offensive possession, let alone full NFL games.  There is nothing original or organic about it.  Every college football game is like its own "local pub" with different recipes, traditions and nuances.  NFL Football is basically McDonalds. 

09/18/2018 - 10:21am It looks to me like teams do…

It looks to me like teams do their best to scheme Gary out of the game.  I am not sure if his inability to rack up gaudy numbers despite this constitutes a "stock down" consideration, but I will say that I don't consistently see Gary being as disruptive as I had hoped.  He does a lot of things really well, he strings out the run perfectly most of the time despite being held and often "harasses" the quarterback well despite doubles, but he does not seem to have really developed a buffet of moves when he is not doubled to get to the QB that frequently despite what seem to be immense physical gifts.  So, I guess long story short, Gary seems like a very good player who is not quite having the impact on our overall defense that I expected. 

Once again, I'm not sure what that means for his "stock" going forward, but he does not stand out as the cream of the crop of the defensive lineman we have seen come through here in the last four years.

09/18/2018 - 9:58am To be honest it feels like…

To be honest it feels like we give up a lot of big plays.  I feel like our defense could best be described as "break but don't bend" so this statistic surprises me a little bit.  Maybe I am not seeing things clearly.

09/18/2018 - 9:42am But you have to like …

But you have to like "recover" and carry on with your day afterword.  Not the same.