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08/23/2017 - 8:48am In before delete

Two can be as bad as one.

08/23/2017 - 8:46am In before delete

Good morning mods. Hopefully your peaceful slumber took a direction much better than this thread.

06/12/2017 - 12:36pm Nadelen's staying at Towson

Nadelen's staying at Towson per Baltimore Sun. I'm guessing next up is Scott Marr. Beyond that, Gerry Byrne? Judd Lattimore, the former Michigan OC now at Holy Cross? Andy Shay or Ryan Polley? It's back to being a total crapshoot.

06/02/2017 - 11:46am Prairie Home Companion is far

Prairie Home Companion is far better with Chris Thile than it ever was with Garrison Keillor.

05/30/2017 - 6:30am I see we're setting

I see we're setting reasonable expectations for our new coach here.

But really. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We can be elite in a year or two, sure, but maybe let's win a conference game before we set the bar at a national championship within five years. The only precedent for that is Denver, who got damn lucky with Bill Tierney at exactly the right time.

05/13/2017 - 4:51pm I'd still take him. He's had

I'd still take him. He's had a few down years, but they've still had good teams, and he's won championships, which is more than we can say for any other realistic candidate for the Michigan job.

05/13/2017 - 3:49pm There was a pretty great

There was a pretty great discussion about Brady Hoke, Ohio, night game jerseys, and laundry detergent a few years ago that remains my favorite.

05/13/2017 - 3:46pm One would think. It's unusual

One would think. It's unusual for sure.

05/13/2017 - 2:48pm Bummed to hear that former

Bummed to hear that former Michigan goalie Gerald Logan got ruled academically ineligible for Hopkins in what would've been his first career playoff game against Duke today.

Though maybe if Hopkins loses, Pietramala will be on the next plane to Detroit and we'll have an announcement on Monday.

03/11/2017 - 8:31pm I'm deferring this evening to

I'm deferring this evening to my trusty Founders Centennial IPA.

75-55 Michigan, and they'll decide to wear the practice unis for the hell of it

03/11/2017 - 7:39pm If we're going to be nitpicky,

There are six games left and we have a 7-1 record. Winning record has not been clinched.

Monumental win, though. I think the team's known they can hang with the big boys for a while; good to know we can actually beat some, too.

02/11/2017 - 12:52pm I don't think they've ruled

I don't think they've ruled out using Glick. Either way, Oosterbaan is getting shrunk for football facilities, so it won't be regulation size next season.

Edit: Sorry. I should've read the OP to see that was already covered.

11/19/2016 - 12:17pm This monologue perplexes me.

This monologue perplexes me.

04/23/2016 - 7:32pm In defense of Coach Paul

I feel compelled to step out in defense of JP to help create a little more substance to this discussion.

My Michigan fandom came not from the football team, but from the lacrosse team. My family has been attending games since 2004 (I'm relatively a young-in, I'll acknowledge). We've gotten close to a significant number of players, and many of the coaches, including JP. No idea if I'd know anybody who's come out on this board as a former player, but it wouldn't remotely surprise me. 

Realizing that I have a bias, I'd offer that JP is still the best coach for this team moving forward on the basis of his previous work. He took the team from club to varsity club. He made that varsity club a consistent contender, though one that could never take the next step for a few years. After a humiliating first round MCLA tournament loss in 2007, he (along with the '08 captains) worked hard to develop a new culture for the program - a culture which created four straight seasons of being the #1 seed in the national tournament and more National Championships (3) than any losses (2) from 2008-11. 

When he took over the varsity team, it went from how you'd expect a varsity club team to do at a varsity level early on, but then there were significant developments. In year three, we went from one win to five. In year four, we were in contention to sneak into the Big Ten tournament, and continued to put scares into top 20 teams. Year five has still been a setback, but setbacks happen (if we'd fired Beilein after Manny Harris' last season, we'd have been screwed). But even with that, we were a bogus call and an inch of the crossbar away from upsetting Maryland - not just a top 20 team, but a top 5 team without our two best scorers. We were hanging with Hopkins into the fourth quarter today. We've significantly narrowed the margin against teams that are competing for the national championship to the point where we're a bounce or two away from actually beating one, and that hasn't been true in any of the first four years of the varsity program.

Maybe the defense needs to change - at least to us, Broschart's been a nice guy, but that's not necessarily in his job description, so I'll defer to JP and Warde - but at the very least, let's give JP the chance to prove this is a setback and not a trend and not blow the whole thing up.

04/02/2016 - 11:14pm You can't hold a lacrosse

You can't hold a lacrosse team in its fifth year of existence to the same standard of Michigan's teams that have been around for much longer and have a much larger body of work.

There's much more to coaching than wins and losses (if you want more on that, let's talk about the tennis coach Brandon fired in BLL). We've spent years building culture and national standing in a sport where the parity has increased dramatically even since Michigan's first varsity season. You know what part of that culture is? You play the best - from the beginning - to be the best. For every blowout loss to North Carolina, there's a loss in overtime to a Cornell team that nearly went undefeated that regular season. For every blowout loss to Brown, there's a near-upset of a Maryland team we're not supposed to be in the same stadium with.

I'd suffer through ten more seasons of losing records if the culture JP builds sets us up for long-term success. Admittedly, I'm biased since I know the man, but I love his emphasis on developing a plan for sustained long-term success. Anybody who watched him flip the switch of the club program from being a top-ten program to a virtually unstoppable machine from 2008-11 knows where his head's at as he builds this program.


04/02/2016 - 3:42pm Maryland's #5 for a reason.

This is a top team that has been playing for decades and consistently puts out championship-caliber teams. We've been playing for five years, and while I get that people are upset that we're not competing for championships yet, try competing in recruiting with established powerhouses that have piled up Final Fours and Championships for decades. This is my main problem with everyone's complaints - we think about it as if the fact that we're four recruiting classes in means we should be winning all the time. It doesn't, nor should it. It takes longer than four years to build a reputation, and Maryland, Hopkins, Syracuse, and Virginia all walk in with decades of championship-caliber teams. We can't compare with that. It's different for football - Michigan has been dominant for literally centuries, and has an incredible pedigree for winning. The lacrosse team has five short years to build on. There's a little more nuance to it than I've seen the commenters on the board give credit.

Then consider we're short KJ and King, without question our two best offensive players on a team that knew that offense was going to be their main strength, and I have a hard time not being proud of these guys for taking a team as good as this team to the wire.

If JP's on the hot seat, this game has nothing to do with it. Hopefully this is a turning point and we're able to parlay this performance into 2-3 conference wins to get into the tourney.

05/08/2015 - 7:52am Barrow Bowl?

Barrow Bowl?

03/14/2015 - 3:54pm Going through the

Going through the stats:

Michigan took 14 of 24 faceoffs. Not Lott's best day statistically, but he did well, especially in the third quarter.

Both teams effective on the clear. Michigan 19-20, St. Joe's 22-23.

Michigan was very disciplined, but couldn't capitalize on St. Joe's penalties. St. Joes had one EMO and cashed in, Michigan had five and cashed in once.

Otherwise, I was a little surprised to realize how much the stats still favored St. Joe's at the end of the game. 49 shots to Michigan's 38, 40 groundballs to Michigan's 28. It seemed more balanced than that.

Having Peter Kraus makes not having Ian King around that much more okay.

03/14/2015 - 3:37pm We caught St. Joe's after an

We caught St. Joe's after an emotional high from the near-upset of Virginia on Tuesday. Statistically, we were clearly the better team in the first half, and clearly the better team in the third quarter. This game should not have gone to overtime.

This is still a great win. We should've won based on that dominant third quarter, but St. Joseph's held in tough and we didn't execute in the fourth quarter. Also very nice to get a win on the road against a team that beat us 15-6 in the Big House last year.

On to Drexel.

03/14/2015 - 3:22pm WIN THE GAME


03/14/2015 - 3:17pm FOUR OVERTIMES


03/14/2015 - 3:07pm FREE LACROSSE


03/14/2015 - 2:59pm THIS IS THE WORST


03/14/2015 - 2:42pm GMFL


03/14/2015 - 2:40pm Big possession.
Eat the

Big possession.

Eat the clock, preserve the win. 

03/14/2015 - 2:31pm Starting to get a little bit

Starting to get a little bit tense here. St. Joe's has momentum and is down by two.

Far too much game left.

03/14/2015 - 1:39pm Gerald Logan is

Gerald Logan is singlehandedly keeping us in the lead. 

03/14/2015 - 1:23pm 2-1 UM after 1Q

Not bad, considering St. Joe's near-upset of Virginia earlier this week.

Gerry Logan with five saves. He's warming up a bit.

02/21/2015 - 1:57pm Started the half strong,

Started the half strong, finished the half strong.

02/21/2015 - 1:41pm Oosterbaan is indoors

There was originally talk of moving to Glick several years ago when it opened, but someone decided along the way that the windows were a little too precarious for lacrosse.

So in a couple years when the new stadium opens, it'll probably be a pretty steady rotation between Oosterbaan, the new stadium, and probably one a year at the Big House.

02/21/2015 - 1:36pm Doublepost

02/21/2015 - 1:33pm On the bright side

If there was any concern about Logan just needing to see some shots to get back in his groove from 2013, we can rest assured that he will see them.

02/07/2015 - 9:40pm This is the first year of B1G

This is the first year of B1G lax.

09/03/2014 - 8:32pm 37-34 Michigan

With Notre Dame up 34-31 late, Jack Miller inadvertently snaps a lemon to Gardner who throws the lemon for a perfect strike to Funchess who scores a touchdown and then throws the game-winning citrus at Brian, which would normally draw an excessive celebration penalty, but the officials know it's for a good cause, so they let it slide.

03/19/2014 - 10:55pm A few weeks ago, I told a guy

A few weeks ago, I told a guy I'd eat my socks if Watkins, Tate, and Megatron were all playing for the Lions in Week 1.

In the event that I must eat my socks, how do you suggest I prepare them?

03/15/2014 - 11:16pm Almost.

The game is at Ohio Stadium, not in Ann Arbor. We've hosted it the past two years.

01/27/2014 - 10:15pm And then MSU publicly

And then MSU publicly announced that they are having class tomorrow and reminded students that 10-15 minutes of exposure to the wind chill could create frost bite.

Is it wrong to laugh?

01/20/2014 - 9:01am Am I the only one who seems

Am I the only one who seems to think there's a method to Sherman's madness? Yes, he is kinda being a dick about it, but he definitely grasps that so much of football is mental, and he clearly got in Crabtree's head at the end. He backs up his trash talk with great plays- or just one great play, that happens to clinch his team's trip to the Super Bowl.

02/16/2013 - 2:49pm GERRY WAT R U DOIN


02/16/2013 - 2:20pm Am I the only one watching

Am I the only one watching the live stream wishing they would stop commenting on how the officials throw their flags and make calls?

02/03/2013 - 7:51am I was expecting, with Emil's

I was expecting, with Emil's transfer, that we would not be very effective in goal. When I went to the game yesterday, it took me about three minutes of watching Logan to convince me otherwise. JP even said that he expects one of our strengths to be in goal, a comment I certainly could not have anticipated, and Logan was outstanding. It looks like our backup at this point is Dylan Westerhold, who was pretty meh filling in for Emil in a few games last year, and Mike D'Alessio, and I don't know if he even was dressed yesterday. So while we may not necessarily be deep, we do have an anchor in goal.

10/20/2012 - 6:48pm GIBBONS' HAIR LENGTH IS


10/20/2012 - 6:48pm GIBBONS' HAIR LENGTH IS


09/29/2012 - 3:45pm Baylor-WVU

Anyone else watching intently? I've never seen a quarterback throw for over 500 yards and 5 TDs (Nick Florence) only to be trumped by a 600+ yard, 8 TD performance from another quarterback (Geno Smith).

07/29/2011 - 6:52pm Well...

I'm not gonna lie, I'm totally and completely in favor of it.

With the loss of freshman eligibility, you lose the 18-year-old kids who are getting full of themselves (a lá Pryor, Tate) and allow them to, you know, actually focus on their academics. I feel like this could actually lead to a distinct lack of egos, and then indirectly cut down on the number of scandals you run into because there's less motivation to even recruit players illegally when they can't even play for you right away.

I'd say more, although I'm pressed for time. Thoughts?

07/22/2011 - 8:21pm At the risk of being flamed:

...what does YMRMFSPA mean?

05/09/2011 - 4:39pm lax opponents

The schedule next year, I think, will probably consist of the natural rivalries of Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Penn State; the geographic rivalry of Detroit-Mercy; a game against Johns Hopkins because JP and Hopkins coach Dave Pietramala are buddies; and a bunch of games against lower-level D1 teams.

04/22/2011 - 11:47pm Pros and Cons

Michigan Stadium Pros: It's Michigan-freaking-Stadium.

Michigan Stadium Cons: JP has made it pretty clear that he doesn't like playing in big, empty stadiums. Given, I don't think anyone likes that.

Field Hockey Pros: Umm... none, really. Other than maybe location, but not really.

Field Hockey Cons: Very small, astroturf used for field hockey not the greatest for lax

Soccer Stadium Pros: Nice size, nice facility, nice surface... pretty great.

Soccer Stadium Cons: Really can't think of much, other than it would be a shared facility.

Elbel Field Pros: Can be customized to whatever lacrosse team wants and needs.

Elbel Field Cons:It has to be customized to whatever lacrosse team wants and needs.

That good enough?

04/17/2011 - 12:11am Oh, no, it wasn't all in the

Oh, no, it wasn't all in the beginning. It was actually mid-to-late fourth quarter, it just all happened in a minute-long sequence. But still. Sparty. Must. Die.

04/16/2011 - 11:58pm Yep

Agreed ^ (infinity)

It should be noted that within a matter of a minute of game time, Sparty delivered an illegal helmet-to-helmet hit and threw a punch at a Michigan player, and didn't get a second of man-down. The refs did not have the greatest game, to say the least.