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08/19/2018 - 9:42pm lol. Their BoT hasn't even…

lol. Their BoT hasn't even met yet. They're required by law to give 24 hours notice to all of their meetings.

Guy is FOS.

08/18/2018 - 11:43pm lol. You must not have any…

lol. You must not have any experience with the  Boardroom. The President answers to the Board, not the other way around.  They are effectively his boss. 

So while it may be his "decision" they will tell him what they want.  If he goes against them, they could force him out.

08/11/2018 - 2:33pm Now being reported there are…

Now being reported there are payments of $10k going from Tom Herman to Courtney Smith. Wow.

08/11/2018 - 2:10pm This doesn't make sense from…

This doesn't make sense from a few angles...

1) Herman wasn't even at OSU when the event of 2015 happened.  Herman left in early 2015. 

2) I'm not sure anybody "tipped off" McMurphy.  Zach Smith's trespassing charge in 2018 was public info.  It's also unlikely Herman would have known about that event, either.

 

08/08/2018 - 8:32pm So this protection order was…

So this protection order was filed July 20th and he was fired 4 days later.

I'm failing to see how this implicates Urban or OSU.

08/06/2018 - 10:12pm People should wait for the…

People should wait for the results of the investigation before taking a "side."  Of course, Finebaum's living is from people watching his show so I guess there's a monetary incentive to have a hard stance.

But already convicting Urban before the facts are known is just as bad as the people blindly supporting him.

08/06/2018 - 12:18am And keep in mind this is the…

And keep in mind this is the same "victim" who refused to pick up her kids after Zach had visitation, which resulted in him having to drop them off at her house, and then she takes a picture of his car in the driveway to get him in trouble for trespassing.

This couple was all kinds of fucked up.  To paint her as some kind of saint is laughable.  She was pulled over 3 times for DUI and the police let her off every time because she claimed DV.

And nobody is saying Zach is a great guy either, he's a POS too.  They're both dysfunctional alcoholics. 

08/06/2018 - 12:09am Zach Smith was never charged…

Zach Smith was never charged with anything, let alone arrested. That's what some of you keep missing.  

In the eyes of the law, he's innocent. If the Columbus police didn't find enough evidence to arrest him, what is OSU supposed to do? ZS could have sued them for wrongful termination.

Sometimes the justice system doesn't get things right, or maybe it got it right in this case and his ex-wife is crazy and lying. I don't know. So none of you could possibly know.

Only ones who know for sure are Zach Smith and his ex-wife.  And possible the police.

 

08/05/2018 - 11:03pm lol, yeah. Because major…

lol, yeah. Because major institutions are in the business of handing out 10s of millions of dollars.

Like I said, either they find a way to fire him for cause, or he's not getting fired.

If they do try to fire him for cause, I'm sure he'll sue and then they'll probably settle down the line.  But they're not working on a buyout in the next 2 weeks, I can guarantee you that.

08/05/2018 - 10:49pm I don't give a shit about…

I don't give a shit about title IX.  And I don't like the current political climate we're in where every man is assumed guilty before the facts are in.

08/05/2018 - 10:47pm Urban has admitted he knew…

Urban has admitted he knew about the incidents in 2015 and "reported it through the proper channels" 

If he's telling the truth, he's safe. If not, he's probably fired.

And the fact Zach Smith met with Gene Smith about this, I'd say it's pretty likely Urban told someone.

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

08/05/2018 - 10:41pm That's not what he said. 

That's not what he said. 

Starts at 0:38.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ev0uN0cuYg

08/05/2018 - 10:34pm Buyout talk is nonsense…

Buyout talk is nonsense. Either Urban is fired for cause or they're keeping him.

You're nuts if you think OSU will pay him even $10-20m (of the $40m he's owed) to not coach.

08/05/2018 - 10:20pm As Bruce Feldman pointed out…

As Bruce Feldman pointed out, Urban talks in absolutes. Either something is black or white.

McMurphy initially reported that Zach Smith had been arrested in 2015 for domestic violence.  That was false.  He updated it later to reflect there was an investigation, but no arrest.

So the way OSU and Urban will spin this is: Urban was referring to the "arrest" as "nothing there."

08/04/2018 - 10:28pm If in fact this is a Title…

If in fact this is a Title IX case.  That is not even certain at this point.

Lawyers can;t even agree whether title IX applies here.  So I'm sure Urban would get a pass.

08/04/2018 - 10:26pm My point is, do 15 people…

My point is, do 15 people have to report the same Title IX violation, or just 1.  If 15 coaches know about something because their AD told them, are all 15 required to go file a report if their AD has already filed one?

08/04/2018 - 10:23pm You must have been asleep…

You must have been asleep for the last 24 hours.  Urban admitted he knew about 2015 and reported it "through the proper channels: 

08/04/2018 - 10:17pm Yeah, that could be a…

Yeah, that could be a problem for him.  But lying to the media won't get him fired. And in that quote I believe he was talking about the NCAA.

08/04/2018 - 10:10pm Or, let's say the police…

Or, let's say the police contacted Gene Smith and then Gene Smith told Urban.  What are Urban's reporting requirements at that point?  Does he have to report back to his boss what his boss just told him?

08/04/2018 - 10:03pm Many lawyers have said this…

Many lawyers have said this is not a Title IX issue because she was not a University employee/student. So it is far from decided that Title IX even comes into play here.

Further, I don't know the exact protocol for how Title IX reporting works.  If Urban reported this to his boss (Gene Smith) that may be sufficient.  

08/04/2018 - 9:54pm OSU has gone into a media…

OSU has gone into a media blackout. Not sure why Meyer released that statement at the same time Zach Smith was doing an interview. Could have been one of a few scenarios, 1) they were working in coordination, even though Meyer just fired Smith 2) Meyer thought Smith might lie during the interview and wanted to get his own statement out 3) it was a Friday news dump and just coincidental Smith was doing an interview during the same time.

OSU won't say anything publicly until this investigation is done. That's just how investigations work.  Maybe stuff gets leaked, but they won't say anything officially. 

08/04/2018 - 9:34pm Attack my premise if you…

Attack my premise if you want, but don't make it personal. 

08/04/2018 - 9:19pm If Meyer actually did report…

If Meyer actually did report this, there is literally no way OSU will fire him because there's no way they will pay him the $40m he's owed.

I tend to believe his statement Friday because Meyer is a guy who looks out for himself and covers his ass. And he reported it at Florida in 2009. So it would make sense he reported it in 2015. And it's already been stated their AD knew about the DV incident because Zach Smith said he met with their AD about it.

Now to be honest, and this won't be a popular opinion, but OSU may have done what they needed to do, legally, here. It's not clear if they're the ones who contacted the police or if the police contacted them, but either way, the police investigated this. And the police didn't find enough evidence to even charge Zach Smith.

So the only thing left is why was he still employed after 2015? That may end up getting Meyer suspended, but not fired. And the AD had the power to fire Zach Smith at any time too, so maybe something happens to him too.  But both will just say the matter was investigated by police and no charges were filed.

Having an independent police department being in the center of this is what will save both Meyer and Gene Smith, like it or not.

08/04/2018 - 8:58pm FWIW, this is the reporter…

FWIW, this is the reporter Urban kicked out of practice while at UF...you may remember the video.

08/03/2018 - 7:09pm Zach Smith was fired because…

Zach Smith was fired because he was finally charged with something in 2018.  Not sure why people are glossing over this.  Prior to 2018, he wasn't charged with anything.

08/03/2018 - 7:05pm Media can piss and moan all…

Media can piss and moan all they want about Meyer lying to them, but it doesn't really matter what they think.  OSU has circled the wagons and it's apparent Meyer is not getting fired. Hell, Zach Smith, who Meyer just fired, is on ESPN right now sticking up for him.

08/03/2018 - 7:02pm Okay....what does this have…

Okay....what does this have to do with anything? Zach Smith has been fired.

08/03/2018 - 6:19pm Zach Smith was only charged…

Zach Smith was only charged with something in 2018.  Before that there were no charges.  That's exactly how they'll justify his employment. 

08/03/2018 - 6:00pm Zach Smith was never…

Zach Smith was never actually charged with anything, until like 2 months ago.  That's how they'll justify keeping him employed for the last 3 years.

08/03/2018 - 5:53pm This is as good of a…

This is as good of a statement as could be written.  There's no way to square the circle of saying you reported the 2015 incident and then denied knowing about the incident at B10 media days.

So he went with the option of saying he lied to the media.  No crime there.  And he'll keep his job.

08/03/2018 - 5:42pm Says he told their AD, Gene…

Says he told their AD, Gene Smith. Gene Smith said he told the police.

08/03/2018 - 5:42pm Actually a brilliant…

Actually a brilliant strategy. He covered his ass. Don't see any way OSU could legally fire him now.

08/03/2018 - 5:29pm Gene Smith is saying he…

Gene Smith is saying he turned it over to the Powell police. That covers his ass too.

07/23/2018 - 1:43pm FWIW, OSU fans do not like…

FWIW, OSU fans do not like this guy.  Only reason he's even on the staff is because he's Earle Bruce's grandson.  With Bruce dead, and now this story, I doubt he lasts the week.

Sounds like he was a decent recruiter, but a terrible coach.  Probably going to be a net positive for OSU (no surprise there).  They fall in shit and come out smelling like a rose.

07/03/2018 - 4:56pm Guy may have been a pedo,…

Guy may have been a pedo, but that's not is what is being alleged.  Known potential victims were college aged.

07/03/2018 - 3:49pm FWIW, this story has been…

FWIW, this story has been around for several months. OSU opened an investigation into it back in April, IIRC.

Probably doesn't have legs for a number of reasons: 1) The alleged perp is dead, and has been for like 15 years. 2) It's not going to involve any high ranking University people because most, if not all, were not at the University 30 years ago.

 

02/07/2018 - 11:08am Reported by Bruce Feldman.

Reported by Bruce Feldman.

02/01/2018 - 6:50pm Disagree. OSU was

Disagree. OSU was investigated by a lot of people. SI and ESPN basically set up shop there and all they could come up with was....what? Some free golf? The car thing was debunked.

OSU was the ones who found the Tressel e-mails.  That's the essense of self-reporting.  If they were "dirty" they would have made those e-mails disappear.

I hate OSU as much as anyone, but trying to say they had a decade of cheating is laughable.  Of course, they probably say the same thing about us beacuse of practice-gate.

02/01/2018 - 2:34pm This is my pick as well. Not

This is my pick as well. Not gory or anything, but it's impactful because something like that could potentially happen one day.

One of those movies that I still think about from time to time.

01/29/2018 - 2:04pm We also don't know for sure

We also don't know for sure that Izzo wasn't carrying on a homosexual relationship with this man.  In fact, I'd say it's likely

Izzo likes the BBC.

Either that or he's a cuckhold.  Both likely.

01/21/2018 - 2:18pm He wasn't OSU's OC on a NC

He wasn't OSU's OC on a NC team. That would have been Tom Herman. He was their line coach.

01/04/2018 - 11:18am Found it hard to believe

Found it hard to believe Woody only had five 10 wins season, so I looked it up.

While technically correct, there were only 9 games in a season from 1952-1967 (which was more than half of his coaching career).

01/03/2018 - 4:59pm He's the new Jon Gruden.
But

He's the new Jon Gruden.

But to be realistic, if some NFL team really wanted him, they could get him.  Offer him personnel control and an ownership stake and he's gone, IMO.

I doubt he wants to leave UM right now, but everybody has their price.

01/01/2018 - 11:13am Any word so far on the B1G

Any word so far on the B1G being 7-0 looking to make it 8-0?

We all know if that was the SEC it would be flashed non-stop on the news ticker at the bottom.

12/31/2017 - 9:56pm #TeamTossedSalad

#TeamTossedSalad

12/30/2017 - 11:27pm Rising tide lifts all

Rising tide lifts all boats...

12/30/2017 - 11:26pm In 27 minutes it will be

In 27 minutes it will be tomorrow.

12/30/2017 - 4:57pm OSU always has 1 or 2 "wtf?"

OSU always has 1 or 2 "wtf?" games every year.  But it's usually a team that sneaks up on them.  Michigan always gets their best shot, which is why it's hard to beat them.

12/30/2017 - 3:18pm I had sex with your wife.

I had sex with your wife.

12/30/2017 - 2:54pm I honestly think they'll be

I honestly think they'll be better next year.  If they end up with a competent QB (which it looks like Haskins is) their offense is going to be dangerous.