|11/16/2017 - 2:21am||Nice write up||
|10/08/2017 - 10:37pm||That's evidenced by play on the field.||
Teams quit, we've all seen that many times in our lives watching sports. We watched it many many times under Hoke.
They were terrible on O last night, but they never quit. And the D never EVER laid up because they wanted every last chance we could get.
There is a difference
|09/11/2017 - 1:47am||My gawd||
Please someone take this down.
The irony in this is that there is always so much discussion about the "death of football" when clearly it's this type of PC feelings culture that's killing the sport just as much as any issues with injury.
|11/05/2016 - 7:47pm||That's not a fair assessment of Rodriguez's offense||
Look, I'm not here to argue if he was a good coach or not, but I do think that offense was his specialty and Hoke had the benefit of an offense that might of been historically great if it weren't suffocated by bad coaching.
The offense under Hoke got worse each year after that.
|09/09/2016 - 2:03pm||Context||
The fact that the people that are talking about the bad things, which if we are being honest the majority of it is completely inevitable, is the issue.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Either it's bad or it's not. Either you contribute by watching or you don't watch and it will go away because the financial means to play will have dried up.
But you watch. Hence hypocritical nature of these threads for a majority of dissenting posters.
|09/09/2016 - 2:55am||Hypocrisy||
The amount of it on this thread makes me laugh.
Obsessing about a game and frequently visiting a site dedicated to a team of players who play that game all whole denoucing football in various ways and vilifying it's nature is ridiculous.
|01/21/2015 - 3:16am||Just so all of the over reacting drama queens have all the info||
The balls were switched at halftime.
Brady 11 for 21 in the first half. 1 TD and 1 INT for a 52% clip with the under inflated balls.
Brady 12 for 14 in the second half. 2 TDs and 0 INTs for 86% with the refs regularly inflated balls.
The Vikings and Aaron Rodgers have both Been proven to tamper with balls this season and they faced ZERO punishment.
The Patriots out scored the Colts 28-0 in the second half.
This is one of the dumbest controversial topics ever put on prime time television. The NFL is skating on thin ice for even pressing this with words like disappointing and upset.
Ray Rice and AP have proved just how upset and trustworthy you really are.
|12/28/2014 - 10:26am||Well as you can see from the searchbits photo on the main page||
We are breaking Harbaugh.
I will not let the pessimists ruin my truth.
|12/28/2014 - 4:11am||Okay I'll bite||
Rosen, Harris, Iman, Roseboro, South, Clark, a 5 star wideout, some OL stud, an undecided top 100 drifter, and a last minute flip.. Right before someone who doesn't like Jimmy bolts opening up another spot where Weber becomes one more wheel on the Harbaugh train come signing day.. cuz you know.. 2 running backs IZ necessary when you just simply can.
We are just a couple days away from basically hiring a Rockstar as our coach all while ESPN uses it's played out mellow dramatic format that most of us usually hate to recruit for us.
So I'll believe anything now. Which means my koolaid is strong. And I'm drinking it. Hard. .
|12/16/2014 - 1:55am||Let's make that 11||
7 is just putting it nicely.
|12/12/2014 - 5:06pm||Agreed||
Too many other successful programs/coaches were going after these same players.
The quarterback situation is one thing because you only have a couple guys at the most important position on the field, but outside of this if there is one thing that Brady Hoke has done while he was here that is restocking the talent pool.
this team is loaded. Whomever the coaches as long as they are competent they are going to come into a situation that is very good from a talent standpoint.
|12/04/2014 - 11:30am||Did we get pushed around in 2011?||
You know, once we had more than a couple years with those players that ran that system.. and when those same players were no longer freshman and sophmores?
It would have been nice to see Rich's teams mature on offense so that consistent upperclassmen were starting on the field instead of babies. You know.. Kinda like Wisconsin who's constantly starting 320ish lb redshirt juniors and seniors in most years.
|12/04/2014 - 9:10am||He kidding bro||
|11/09/2014 - 4:55pm||I disagree||
I think that unfounded whispers of that being a possibility have planted that idea and nothing else.
Michigan football is at a point where it's financial success in the future depends on it success on the field. The program has used up all of its Goodwill which in turn means that Hoke will not in anyway be given another pass. Whether that is Jim Harbaugh as the head football coach or somebody else Brady Hoke is done at the University of Michigan. Even with a win over OSU.
Sorry was trying to reply below on keeping Hoke another year.
|11/09/2014 - 4:50pm||I like Fred. I like Hoke. I like all the coaches honestly.||
Michigan hired classy, professional high character guys. I just think many of those same guys aren't good coaches. Fred Jackson simply isn't developing running backs. Because of that, and since this is a job you must produce at as a fan I want him gone. I don't mean to sound disrespectful, it's just as a fans who loves the university and the football program (and my wallet shows it year in and year out) I've seen enough of the clown show.
|11/09/2014 - 4:28pm||I don't think so and I don't think he should||
If there is one thing that I am advocating with any coaching change that takes place is the complete overhauling of every position group. No more nepotism in anyway should keep coaches in place at a job as high profile as Michigan's.
It is time to start over and hope that the next regime hires the best of the best and guys like Fred Jackson are gone and never to be seen again.
Nothing against Greg Mattison, but I personally feel that it's time to move on.
In speculation, I feel that if Jim Harbaugh were actually to be hired at Michigan there will be absolutely zero leftovers.
|10/24/2014 - 12:13pm||They won the game||
All other details are a small side note.
Was Reggie Bush not the best player in college football the year he won the Heisman trophy? These ongoing dramas are just that. They'll never change who the best team or player actually was regardless of what notes on paper change.
|03/25/2014 - 12:43am||Marcus Taylor||
The thing people forget when talking about this draft is how deep it is and how falling to the late first and early second affect the money you make and how much is guaranteed if any at all. If you aren't drafted in the first round you are at the mercy of the club who drafts you and can be cut like the NFL on a seconds notice.
McGary doesn't wanna put himself in that kind of jeopardy. If he doesn't get a few teams to basically tell him that he's getting drafted at a certain time then it makes sense for him to stay. It's the same gamble as staying except with higher benefits as well as he'll have 1 more year at school. Would you rather play in the D league or compete for a national championship?
People like to compare the Trey/Timmy situation but they aren't the same. Burke's stock was never gonna be higher than it was this year and Timmy's could only get lower.
|02/17/2014 - 12:31pm||I'm sure Saban welcomed the news||
Another reason to cut a scholarship on a guy who wasn't producing. Bank for next years class of 28.
|11/23/2013 - 8:30pm||Silly excuse||
I never get into these flame wars about RR on here but one thing is certain, and goes for both Lloyd and that asshole at the free press, you don't throw the program under the bus because you don't like how things didn't go your way. Loyalty to Michigan should always come first and foremost. If Moeller doesn't get drunk and wild out he never even sees that job. It was a great opportunity and he should have took it upon himself to make sure that the following regime had all the support he had himself. I'm sick and tired of hearing about poor Lloyd.
|10/28/2013 - 2:43pm||MGOPESSIMISM||
Sick of it.
They have a defense. Big woop. This is a flawed team just like ours who has beaten absolutely nobody. 6 of the worst teams in college football were on that schedule. The one decent team they played, they lost to. They "improved" about as much as we did against Indiana.
This is year 3 with Hoke. They have seen this show twice before and I am very confident that defensively they are going to shut that pile of shit down. They have two weeks to do it. And trick plays will be on watch. They won't be getting the okey doke pulled on us this year. So its up to the offense to score a few times. 17 should do it.
Loosen up chaps. We win this weekend. Maybe even big.
|10/28/2013 - 2:33pm||What?||
Your reply makes zero sense
|10/28/2013 - 1:59pm||I think this is the week to let the dogs out.||
Blitz blitz blitz blitz.
I have never seen a team as terrible as this years Spartan squad strike so much unwarranted fear into my fellow fan base.
I don't care what they did against 3 of the worst teams in college football. Thats like saying we are as good as Baylor after Indiana.
Have confidence in this Defense, because besides one half against Indiana they have been the best unit in the Big 10 besides MSU. The offense has spotted so many points to our opponents it's ridiculous. And the D almost bailed us out of the PSU game save a couple amazing catches and missed timings. They had one bad half against Indiana. This same Indiana team has put up huge points all season and took it to the Buckeyes for 49 points at the end of last season. Hanging our heads is silly.
For once we have the bye week and this offense is in our wheelhouse. IMO if Devin can keep from turning the ball over on the wrong side of the field we will win by a lot. Sure MSU's D is stout, but you have to score points and its obvious that Michigan can score the damn ball.
|10/28/2013 - 1:49pm||I agree with this more than most people. It is frustrating.||
And as one of the posters pointed out and many keep asking.. WHERE the hell is Braden. I heard on here that he has problems pulling and can't play the interior as good as tackle.. Ok fair enough, but why is he not seeing and playing time at all as a tackle like when Lewan went down if they are trying to squeeze short yardage? I mean hes the biggest linemen we have and he's had an entire year and a half in the system. If he is just not good i'll be a disappointed fan for sure. The expectations were sky high.
|09/15/2013 - 3:39am||I'm 37. I might not be ancient, but I've been around long enough||
to know that this would have been much worse than App State. And part of the reason it would have been worse is because app state happened. Michigan lost due to complacency and arrogance in that game. They also lost to a team that would have obliterated Akron today. App State was no Bama but they sure weren't a shitty team like Akron was.
Considering the fallout from App State and the years it's taken to start building what we have now losing to Akron today would have been even more damaging to the program, it's reputation and the momentum the Michigan Football program has been busting its ass to build going forward. We'd have had to live this App State and Toledo all over again collectively and had to see it all season. A season that could haul in the possible consensus number 1 and 2 recruits in the entire nation.
Sometimes perception can change on a dime and this is one of those games that could have did it. Regardless of us being top 5 in 2007, or who was on that team, it would not have affected the programs reputation or stung quite like a loss today would have. It's an embarrassment even as a win.
Is App State a very close second? Yes. But today losing would have been much like Mike Tyson losing his last fight. Every last bit of mystique would be gone. We'd be the joke of college football. No other power program has ever had as much shit happen to us and stayed relevant in national perspective. Say what you want but losing to App State was a fluke thing. Now we've been warned. Losing to Toledo was terrible but there were legitimate circumstances for it. Today there was Zero reason for this to happen and we should feel blessed as fans that we didn't have to bear it in all it's ugly glory.
I'm fucking sick of being a large part of the overrated talks in college football. Wether Michigan fans wanna believe it or not we haven't done shit in a long time. And today would have made me feel like a permanent death in the family happened had we lost. It didn't and I'm greatful. We get a chance to bury this and redeam ourselves.
|09/14/2013 - 5:30pm||Michigan football as a whole got a gift today.||
What could have been a momentum changer for the entire program, a loss much worse than Appalachian State, and just a flat out embarrassment a million times bigger than anything we've had happen before instead we got a gift.
A gift that still stings and embarrasses and hopefully resonates with every major figure involved with the program. This win should be the one that let's us know that we cannot continue to expect anything anymore. Ever.
Coach Mattison deserves just as much criticism as Devin does today because he was arrogant and stubborn. They almost beat us with the same game plan that App State used in 2007. Spread us out and pi I us apart with speed. The god damn linebackers should have been pulled on so many of those plays it is ridiculous that a man making a million dollars a year and has been so stellar since he got here could be so damn stubborn, or clueless for that matter. They needed more speed out there and we refused to do it for what reason I have no fucking idea.
I understand that I am a fan. I don't coach D-1 football. But I have common sense and that entire game plan or lack there of was terrible. The usual halftime adjustments were basically zero and because of it we almost lost.
This game needs to be remembered like a death in the family. It is pitiful and we dodged a serious bullet to the perception of Michigan football. One that we've been trying to rebuild. I hope that I am not the only one who feels this way because if its just the fans this team, and program is in trouble.
|08/30/2013 - 4:34pm||I don't see CMU putting up 14||
Not even late with the starters long gone.
|08/20/2013 - 2:16pm||It doesn't matter what was cited or researched.||
None of it is proven. Zero percent of the actual story that involves Lewen or the rape itself is proven whatsoever. It is basically a shotty opinion piece.
|08/20/2013 - 2:16pm||It doesn't matter what was cited or researched.||
None of it is proven. Zero percent of the actual story that involves Lewen or the rape itself is proven whatsoever. It is basically a shotty opinion piece.
|08/20/2013 - 2:07pm||So we just post stories now from... Who?...||
Nice 1 sided story of unsubstantiated SHIT.
As a former victim of rape fraud, knowing how damaging unproven allegations can be I say take this damn thing down ASAP.
|06/26/2013 - 4:16pm||I disagree||
Kids are molded by peers, parents and mentors. Maybe it isn't cool to put the onus on Urban, but considering his track record at Florida he sure didn't help the situation.
It's obvious that rivalry bias aside Urban Meyer is not a great person. Winning and his own self satisfaction are the top priorities. It's very well possible that whatever troubled past Aaron came from that with a little guidance might have changed his life's direction.
Take Dantonio for example. Had he not let a kid who had been locked away for 6 months get directly back on the field the minute he was released it is very possible Glenn Winston learns a little from his mistake and doesn't repeat it.
We aren't a Sparty or OSU board but at the same time the examples set by the staffs that have been in charge of those programs have left a very stained and non respectable image for everyone to see and therefore when stuff like this happens people look back and question what if when you were a part of that past.
Not that its always accurate but if the shoe fits the general public is gonna make you wear it.
|02/27/2013 - 7:34pm||Anyone on here saying the Pistons have a pg doesn't watch them||
Calderone doesn't play D and is 31. Even if he stays you have 2 seven footers who are under 22 and that doesn't equate to a long term commitment in the point guard department.
None of the rest of Detroit's combo guards really knows or has shown the slightest ability to play the pg position. Trey is perfect for Detroit.
Comparing Trey to Chris Paul etc is just silly. Even if he doesn't end up as good as Paul (which I'm not yet convinced he can't be) Burke can still be a solid NBA starting point.
Eric snow lasted a long time in the league as a solid starter and he had no jumpshot. Anyone thinking Trey is a back up and that the pistons wouldn't be lucky to have them needs to reevaluate that assessment
|02/16/2013 - 10:34am||They didn't show your highlights?||
I only had to endure beat down at the Breslin on BTN for a week and turn off Sportcenter for 24 hours.
|02/13/2013 - 7:14pm||I posted the same thing regarding inexperience||
In a thread yesterday. And all people kept saying was Kentucky, Kentucky, Kentucky.
I have to be that guy and tell all those people they don't obviously know a damn thing about basketball and are sounding very ignorant right now in their sporting knowledge in general. This isn't a video game and we are not recruiting on Kentuckys level. Nobody in the history of college basketball has.
What Kentucky did last year is unprecedented. And IMO it was also in a down year for top tier college basketball teams.
Not to mention they had a 7 foot defensive freak of nature an anchoring their D. Davis was also surrounded by a class actually rated higher than the Fab 5. A class that followed another top class where a few players stayed from the previous year.
Look at Kentucky this year? Why aren't they dominating? Why didn't they win it all 3 years ago?
Michigan didnt bring in the fab 5, and the upperclassmen in the rotation (Morgan/Horford) besides Burke and THJ are guys that are not world beaters and never will be. What happened last night was an avalanche and 3 freshman who play major minutes responded like it. Get used to it. Very few freshman are going to be on Webber or Juwans or Jalens level. And they won 0 titles.
Michigan is still in a state of transition to becoming elite and having mostly elite prospects on the roster.
|02/12/2013 - 10:20pm||Kentucky and who else?...||
And look at Kentucky this year? In decades and decades of basketball it's only been done once. And that one time was with back to back recruiting classes that not only ranked number 1, but had one class that was higher ranked than even the Fab 5.
Not ever good freshman class is going to have the caliber of players Kentucky had last year. Even they had trouble reloading that.
|02/12/2013 - 10:05pm||There is a reason freshman don't win NCAA championships||
And this is why its sad Trey isn't coming back next year.
All the youth is showing up with every single big game that we play as the conference grind wears on. This team will not be the same next year, and with Trey Burke to run the point and Walton backing him up we could do something really really special.
I'm not contemplating doom and gloom, we are still very good, but this is not an elite team that can win it all. Elite teams do not get punched in the mouth this many games in a row. They have moments and then turn it on. Michigan is regressing, not progressing.
|02/07/2013 - 1:15pm||I know 1 thing about this class||
It better have at least 2 blue chip wideouts.
|02/06/2013 - 3:37pm||Though its highly likely that he will||
I think people are overestimating the possibilities after this season with Trey Burke. These kids have grown tight, and everyone is eligible to come back. Not being as desperate and more sure than ever that his dream is actually in his grasp, if they don't win it he may very well come back because of the opportunity.
This isn't something just any player who is lottery/draft eligible has a chance to be a part of. If they all returned there is no doubt in my mind we are number 1 in the country next year and could possibly gash through the entire season.
Burke also has to know how huge of a jump his game has made since last season and that guys like Stauskus, GR3 and especially McGary will be 10 fold better next year. Not to mention that the system he is in will be that much more polished.
It has to be tempting. In the NBA he is just another face. In college basketball, especially on Michigan campus he is a little hero right now and its got to be a total blast.
|02/06/2013 - 1:59am||Gutty gutty win||
Ive seen a lot of people on the board in several threads commenting that Craft was fouled and we were lucky. That is total BS.
Just because Dicky V annoyingly wants to annoint Aaron Craft the greatest defender in college basketbal and say he got fouled at the end doesn't mean that people have to follow that lead or buy into it so easily. Craft is a great defender, but he is also the champion of fouling and getting away with it.
Trey was playing him legally and very similar to how Aaron plays him during the game so why should he get a foul call for something that doesn't get called on him on the other side of the ball. Burke is faster than him and he just shadowed him down the floor as Aaron was using his hand to try and create space. Timmy's block was legal and we shouldn't be bailing a player out just because he is pushing hard to the basket. His shot wasn't affected by Trey's D, Timmy just happened to already be there because Trey shadowed him all the way down the floor.
Also, we wouldn't even have had this controversy had the officials did there job at halftime and waived of that 3..
|02/04/2013 - 7:47am||Just an FYI||
As far as blowing people out, a stat that hasn't been talked about on here but I have been keeping track of - in every single game this year other than IU and OSU on the road Michigan has had a 14 or more point lead in the game at some point or another. Every single game.
Though some teams have pulled it closer towards some of the endings it still does not negate the fact that in every game but those 2 we have been blowing teams doors off.
Also take into account we had a chance after being down 21 at OSU to beat them when Trey went for the jugular with that 3 he took at the end that barely missed, and also tied up a game at IU in which IU did not miss a single shot for 7 tries to start the game. Many deep contested 3s. That will not be replicated.
And I think too many people dismiss Jordan Morgans absence.
And last but not least those losses were big time learning moments for a very young team. Nobody, and I mean nobody will wanna play Michigan in March.
|01/28/2013 - 12:34pm||He should have been last year.||
What he did with that roster last year was top notch. For everyone that would credit the emergence of Trey, it was John Who put them in position to win.
So this year they need to make amends.
|01/22/2013 - 3:02pm||You can never have too many backs||
Maybe it won't just be Notre Dame. Signing day ain't here yet. I'd take all 3.
Hey I can dream can't I?
|01/13/2013 - 1:33am||Ass woopin or not||
They were there.
|01/12/2013 - 11:55pm||I understand your POV||
And some of it is rather convincing, but when you are a program that has been what we have been since the scandal and are finally digging your way back to being on an elite level exposure matters. Being number 1 puts you on the radar of everyone who watches basketball.
Look at NDs football success in recruiting just from going undefeated and showing up in the BCS Championship game. Sure they recruit well but this is another step up and that exposure counts.
|01/09/2013 - 10:39pm||Stop||
|01/07/2013 - 6:14pm||I am turned on||
Now will I actually get to see it?
|01/04/2013 - 3:09pm||The New England Patriots are the best place for him||
Belichick will find out where he works. He'd play him everywhere.
Danny Woodhead? He's a stud in that offense. Wherever Denard would shine they would surely find his calling.
|12/30/2012 - 4:48pm||C'mon fellas||
Enough of the pessimistic view points on here. We have a very legit shot at this kid. Stop assuming we are always playing second fiddle.
We are Michigan Fergodsakes
|12/16/2012 - 4:49pm||Like I said its just a guess||
Between the tweets, interviews etc he just comes off that way. Maybe I'm way off. But that's how I perceive it from a guessing standpoint.
|12/16/2012 - 4:32pm||Some frivolous conjecture||
I think this staff chilled out on chasing him because like a lot of blue chip players who have a very me first attitude it gets to a point where you start wasting energy and time into something that maybe isn't the right fit to begin with.
I am not saying that Treadwell is a bad guy but he is 17 years old and all 17 year old kids are in need of molding. But when it starts looking like a guy is possibly going to disrupt team chemistry his attitude starts looking like its not worth the talent. It's one guy.
I am also not saying that the coaches think Treadwell is some horrible person but that He had a lot of me first mentality hence the comment that the Michigan coaches work showing him a enough love.
I think there comes a time when you have invested so much time into a particular person to show them how much you want them to be a part of your program and yet they still seem to want to look around while the rest of the team seems like damn near family already.
I know what a lot of people are going to say, but what about all the rest of these players like Dawson And McQuay and green that are all and have been on the fence for a long time. True but You have to admit that they have all been very up front or classy about it or in Dawsons case had a very real 17 year old moment, but none of them have acted quite the way Treadwell has.
Funny thing is if I were a kid like Treadwell that wanted to go to a major program that had a good school and was on the rise I think that Michigan would be easily in my top group if not the leader considering the depth chart.
There are very few positions in football where you can come in and be THAT GUY Neatly like you can at positions like receiver. And you would think that Treadwell would see he could step on to the field next year and start.
Just my two cents anyways