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08/18/2018 - 9:14am It wish one of these insider…

It wish one of these insider reports would provide a couple more details as to how the OT battle is going.  Just about every day we get another version of the whole "well right now it looks like it could be Mayfield or it might be JBB, but don't count out Hudson or Stueber" thing.  But what can we really do with that information?

We know JBB is a good run blocker, but has struggled in pass pro.  If Mayfield genuinely is ahead of him, it could mean any number of things: that Mayfield is a comparable run blocker and better in pass pro, or that Mayfield is comparable in pass pro but even better at run blocking, or that Mayfield is an inferior run blocker but superior at pass pro and the staff prefers that combo to the former, or even that Mayfield is about even to JBB in both phases already and is favored due to anticipated development.  There's countless other possible explanations as well.  And that's without even getting into what's happening with any of the other OT candidates.  So it would really be nice if  somebody would just elaborate a bit on this stuff--even to say what a couple of the guys we haven't seen do well/don't do well so that we could make projections from there.

But I guess that's one of the reasons for going into a submarine...

08/16/2018 - 3:12pm The more I look at this, the…

The more I look at this, the more I hate it.

I do think doing the Yankee pinstripe thing for a game at Yankee Stadium is a good idea, but the execution is way off here.  They should have tried to incorporate a pinstripe element into ND's iconic uniform--but by making the base uniform color black, they just fucked the whole thing up.

If they had only done pinstripe sleeves on a normal ND jersey, or just put a pinstripe sticker on the gold helmet, or even did like a "pinstripe ND" thing on the helmet, that would have been enough.  This look is way over the top and nothing about it says "Notre Dame" except the actual words printed on the stupid thing.    

Who ever designed this would get voted off Project Runway for sure.

08/14/2018 - 1:42pm Yeah man, everybody murders,…

Yeah man, everybody murders, rapes, flinches from me, flinches from you...

08/14/2018 - 1:39pm I actually thought, based on…

I actually thought, based on the title, that the "player practice equipment" thread had something to with the shoe-selling issue or procedures for inventorying equipment related to that.  I wasn't interested in that topic, so didn't click on it until I came to this thread and saw what it was really about.

08/11/2018 - 8:56am This is really appalling.  I…

This is really appalling.  I liked Durkin, but not anymore.  

08/11/2018 - 8:42am I'm a big fan of that ATC.  …

I'm a big fan of that ATC.  "I think they'd give you a job doing anything if you can pull this off."  

08/10/2018 - 1:11pm I would generally be…

I would generally be embarrassed to shit in a restaurant bathroom.  Not sure why, but I kind of view restaurants as #1-only facilities.  Now an airport, that's another story.

08/10/2018 - 1:03pm How sure are we that bland…

How sure are we that bland food is not a component in unlocking the Minor Rage?

08/09/2018 - 6:19pm There's a rumor she uses…

There's a rumor she uses mgoblog under the username "Computer Blue."

08/09/2018 - 2:18pm Kind of like Old Man Johnson…

Kind of like Old Man Johnson's farm.

08/09/2018 - 12:16pm I agree this is true in many…

I agree this is true in many fields.  But you are overlooking the importance of credentials in the modern job market.  As has been pointed out above, if you want a decent job these days, you almost certainly need a bachelor's degree and there's a good chance you need a post-graduate degree as well.  Can you still read and study things for your own personal enrichment and learn a comparable amount?  Often, yes you can--though often you cannot.  But even when you can, independent study outside a degree program is not going to produce a credential that will enable you to compete for employment in that field.  That's especially true in licensed professions like law or medicine--if you don't have the degree, you can't get the license, no matter how much independent learning you may have done.

Given the importance of such credentials in the 21st century job market, promoting opportunity and upward mobility requires that we ensure broad access to those credentials.  We provide public funding for K-12 education because in the past, a high school diploma was an adequate credential for most purposes--as well as the extensive benefits an educated populace provides in an industrial democracy.  But times have changed.  A college degree now is the approximate equivalent to what a high school diploma once was.  So the argument for publicly-funded college education (or "free college," as you have deemed it) is that requiring students to pay ungodly amounts of tuition for the basic credential needed to secure decent employment in the modern economy stifles upward mobility and denies economic opportunities to working-class and indeed many middle-class young people.  You can agree or disagree with that argument if you want, but it's far from a frivolous position and at any rate is not vulnerable to any claim that "well you can just read shit on your own."

08/07/2018 - 12:17pm I am looking forward to OSU…

I am looking forward to OSU deciding not to fire Meyer and hgb4529 coming back to mgoblog with quality posts like "Ha ha ha, I told you we would get to keep our lying, wife-beater-harboring coach.  Go Bucks!"

08/07/2018 - 10:15am I think the largest…

I think the largest financial risk is definitely from Meyer, at least in terms of lawsuits.  If they fire him without cause they are on the hook for a $38 million buyout, and $38 million seems like way more than Smith could realistically recover in a lawsuit even if she could establish some kind of liability (which seems very questionable to me, but obviously we don't have all the facts).  I don't know if the reputational harm could approach or exceed that in terms of foregone donations, but it at least seems possible if, say, OSU has a Stephen Ross type alum who decides not to write a check for a new business school or something like that.

 

08/07/2018 - 9:59am Yes, when I saw that former…

Yes, when I saw that former prosecutors are on the committee, that's what gave me some shred of confidence that it won't just be a whitewash.

Also, MSU had a supposedly "outside" investigation that was quite transparently designed to shield Dantonio.  As long as it's OSU initiating the investigation, ultimately some insider (or team of insiders) will be the ones choosing the investigator and giving the marching orders.  So unless you have some outside entity (like a DOJ/Title IX official or the NCAA) bringing the investigation, it seems to me that the integrity and interests of the people on the committee are going to be more important than whether they are "insiders" or "outsiders."  

08/07/2018 - 9:52am Yes, though I kind of think…

Yes, though I kind of think if McMurphy had anything more substantive he would have put it out by now.  He is a journalist, after all.

Of course, it's also possible that McMurphy has information that isn't really significant right now, but contradicts something that Meyer or OSU hasn't been said yet or that comes out of the investigation.  So if OSU is thinking about calling his bluff, they had better be very careful.

08/07/2018 - 7:36am Cowboy was the first O.  The…

Cowboy was the first O.  The nut guys were H and I.  And the last O was Zach Smith.

08/07/2018 - 6:37am 100? Wow.  If their…

100? Wow.  If their objective was to demonstrate to the OSU administration that firing Meyer will incense the fanbase, with such a low turnout I'd say they had the opposite effect.

08/06/2018 - 12:33pm Look dude, OSU has had a…

Look dude, OSU has had a better football team than Michigan for the better part of two decades now.  But if you want to try and compare the programs on an ethical basis, ROTFL.

Just go slink off in some corner and enjoy your ill-gotten gains.

08/06/2018 - 12:28pm I don't know.  But I was…

I don't know.  But I was responding to your assertion that there was nothing but "circumstantial evidence and hearsay" to prove that Meyer had lied to cover up his failure to take action on Smith--which Meyer himself admitted to doing on Friday.

08/06/2018 - 10:35am Uh, did you not see Meyer's…

Uh, did you not see Meyer's own Tweet in which he claimed to have reported the 2015 incidents to his superiors and apologized for failing to answer the questions about it honestly at the Big Ten media days?  

08/06/2018 - 10:25am I know you're a troll and I…

I know you're a troll and I really shouldn't respond, but I will anyway.

First, Perry's offense was not really "sexual abuse" in my opinion, if it was it was a very borderline case.  He cut in line at an East Lansing bar and then got into some kind of confrontation with a woman who did not approve.  He reportedly menaced and intimidated her, which was awful, but he  didn't sexually assault her and this wasn't a DV scenario.  

Second, what Grant Perry did was nonetheless pretty bad and there are lots of opinions about whether the punishment Harbaugh imposed was sufficient.  He was suspended for eight months and missed a bowl game, spring practice, and the Italy trip.  Many here thought this wasn't enough and that Perry should have been dismissed from the team.  But it's ultimately a judgment call and reasonable minds can differ on the correct response.  There is no reason to think Harbaugh didn't take the situation as seriously as necessary and impose the sanctions he felt were most appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances.  If people don't agree with that, fine--but that doesn't make Harbaugh a bad guy or establish grounds to question his character or integrity.

Third, the one player who committed an actual "sexual abuse" type of offense since Harbaugh has been at M, Logan Tuley-Tillman, was dismissed from the program immediately. And LTT's one-time offense (recording consensual sex without permission and transmitting it to his phone), despite its sexual nature, was not even in the ballpark of Zach Smith's serial DV.  

Fourth, there is no indication that Harbaugh failed to comply with any law or university policy in connection with any of these incidents.  

Fifth, and perhaps most importantly, Harbaugh hasn't lied about these incidents (or his handling of them) to the media.  That's what ultimately makes Meyer a shitbag.  See, if he'd fucked up his handling of Zach Smith but was at least honest about it and said things that indicated he'd recognized his mistakes and learned from them, then Meyer could perhaps be viewed as a well-intentioned coach who'd screwed up a difficult situation.  But lying to the media shows that Meyer holds the rights and interests of others in contempt--that he's not a good guy, but just a selfish a-hole looking out for #1.  You can say he doesn't deserve to be fired over this, and likely cherry-pick enough tidbits of information to justify that to yourself.  But in the end, you really only care about winning football games, even if your coach is a lying a-hole.  And since enough people at OSU probably feel the same way, you just might get to keep him.  But that doesn't make him a "good guy."

08/06/2018 - 9:51am Clemson has three starting…

Clemson has three starting DL on the list, and was the other team in the running for Rashan Gary.  

08/06/2018 - 9:03am Meyer has won, what, three…

Meyer has won, what, three national championships?  He's 73-8 at Ohio State.  He's not overrated, come on. 

Dantonio at Ohio State would be Tressel 2.0, IME.  He'd have an outstanding defense, run a conservative offense, and get 90% of his talent from Ohio.  That's still a formidable program, but it's not the beast Meyer has going.

08/06/2018 - 8:17am Ohio State is always going…

Ohio State is always going to recruit at a very high level, but Urban Meyer is one of the only coaches anywhere in college football who instantly gives OSU a shot with almost any prospect anywhere in the country.  If they fire him, then OSU will likely hang onto most of the players they have signed for the upcoming class, but over time I think we'll see at least a little bit of a decline in their recruiting--still consistently within the top-10, but not necessarily the top-3 anymore.

If they keep him around, even with a suspension, I imagine the machine will just keep rolling.  Even if he misses out on the occasional prospect who doesn't trust him or doesn't want to play for a coach with his stained reputation, it's hard to see that having a significant effect.

08/06/2018 - 7:59am I appreciate the thorough…

I appreciate the thorough response.  But I still disagree.

An assault occurs when a person is put in fear of an imminent, unwanted contact, even if there is no contact. Even if Perry never touched her, his threats and taunts could have been enough on their own for assault.  And while there may have been conflicting evidence, Perry ultimately pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault & battery, which establishes (for legal purposes, at least) both that he committed an assault and that there was contact (i.e., the battery). 

08/05/2018 - 10:30pm Those damn East Lansing…

Those damn East Lansing probation officers can't keep their mouths shut, I guess.

08/05/2018 - 9:37am Bad mah-muh-jah-mah?

Bad mah-muh-jah-mah?

08/05/2018 - 9:26am Not trying to nit-pick this…

Not trying to nit-pick this fine diary, but you list M has having zero "non-dismissal[s] for verified assault by the player."  I'm wondering why the Grant Perry situation wouldn't count there.  

08/05/2018 - 8:42am I agree with this.  But it's…

I agree with this.  But it's not clear what Meyer is claiming his supposed report consisted of.  If he made the report by email or filed some kind of form or something, then there absolutely should be a record.  But what if he claims he reported it by phone?  Then there's only a record if the person he spoke with made one.  Even if the policy requires a written report, now we're talking about more of a technical violation (reporting by phone, rather than in writing). And, of course, the big questions then would be about whether that phone call was ever even made--and if so, to whom and what exactly was said.  

08/05/2018 - 8:28am You're going to put the…

You're going to put the voodoo doll in a can?

08/03/2018 - 12:50pm At Miami they don't.

But I…

At Miami they don't.

But I will say, I always appreciated how Tommy Amaker cleaned up M's hoops program and I'm still a fan of the guy even though he never got us to the NCAAs.  It's tough, but at some point you do have to say, "thanks, but we'd like to win now."

I don't know enough about the Randy Shannon situation to say whether he got a fair chance to prove himself at the U, but his Wikipedia page shows he went 9-4 and 7-5 his last two seasons there and only got 4 years overall.  Granted, it's probably easier to win in football at Miami than hoops at Michigan but that still seems like a pretty quick hook.  Amaker got six years.

08/03/2018 - 7:19am First of all, Meyer is…

First of all, Meyer is ultimately a state employee and has a right to some due process before he is terminated.

Second, Meyer has a huge contract and if OSU fires him without good cause they will be on the hook for millions of dollars in future salary.

Third, while there is extensive evidence that Meyer knew of Zach Smith's abusive behavior and failed to take the actions required by university policy to address it, there are also plenty of unknowns.  For instance, we don't know exactly when Meyer became aware of Smith's post-2009 abuse, or how he found out, or what (if any) steps he did take to address the conduct.  Part of the reason we don't know is because Meyer denied being told about the abuse at Big Ten media days--which now appears to have been an obvious falsehood.  But the point remains that there are many unanswered questions here and it's prudent for OSU to investigate them and try and put together a more complete picture of what happened before coming to a final decision.  

Fourth, what's the rush?  Meyer is already on administrative leave, so he isn't coaching the team and isn't in a position to commit additional wrongdoings.  

08/03/2018 - 6:57am Also Dave Brandon's jam.

Also Dave Brandon's jam.

08/03/2018 - 2:45am I propose that a poster who…

I propose that a poster who is both a troll and a tool henceforth be called a "trool."

08/02/2018 - 4:24pm "This is what losers do. …

"This is what losers do.  Being unable to beat someone on the field they take excitement that some other means of derailing a rival will suffice."

Wow.  He might as well have just said that as long as Meyer wins football games, nothing else he does matters.

08/02/2018 - 4:13pm If I was Urban, having Jay…

If I was Urban, having Jay Paterno take my side would probably push me over the line into resigning.

08/02/2018 - 4:09pm  


It makes not sense that…

 

It makes not sense that Courtney Smith was suffering in silence for many years and said nothing publicly because she feared even more violent retribution from Zach.

Again, as you yourself pointed out above, she (i) reported ZS' conduct to the police, (ii) obtained a protection order (which requires her to have testified about the conduct to the court under oath);, and (iii) filed a divorce proceeding, which more than likely also contained allegations of domestic violence.  As you did not point out, she also directly informed Shelley Meyer about the abuse, and in discussing it with Lindsey Voltolini, was told that ZS denied the allegations to Urban Meyer (thus giving CS every reason to believe that Urban Meyer had been informed of the allegations).

And so yes, your premise that "Courtney Smith was suffering in silence" does not make sense--because the essential facts of the scenario show that she was very vocal about her suffering.  

Courtney Smith's entire course of conduct has changed 180 degrees since Zach was fired ... why is she becoming such a media figure now?

Again, this is totally irrelevant.  Courtney Smith's behavior is not at issue.  Courtney Smith's reasons for "becoming a media figure" are not at issue.  Assuming she is telling the truth--and seeing as her statements are corroborated by extensive text messages and other documentation there really is no serious doubt on that point--then what difference does it make why she has chosen to share this information or why she may have not been public about it in the past?  Your insinuation that she must have some kind of improper motive is baseless, and even if she does have an improper motive, that still doesn't change the fact that Urban failed to handle the situation property and then lied about it.

Meyer is on paid administrative leave because of his own acts and omissions, and if he winds up being fired then him will have only himself to blame.  That this never would have happened if CS hadn't spoken up about it is neither here nor there.

08/02/2018 - 2:11pm Are you just conveniently…

Are you just conveniently ignoring the fact that she texted Meyer's wife and other people associated with the program about the abuse?

Besides, as you've acknowledged, Courtney Smith reported the abuse to the police, obtained a protection order, and got a divorce.  These are the things a DV survivor would normally do to protect herself from further abuse.  Trying to get the abuser fired from his job has nothing to do with that, so the fact that she "didn't do what could have been done to get Zach fired by OSU" is irrelevant.

Another factor here is that Meyer lied about his knowledge of the 2015 assaults at the Big Ten media day.  Maybe she felt the lie made her look bad, or maybe she feels an obligation to set the public record straight, or maybe it just pissed her off, whatever--but if Meyer hadn't denied knowing about the 2015 incidents then there would neither have been any need for McMurphy to interview her about whether Meyer knew or not, nor any lie for her to expose.  

It's like Buckeye John Ross said.  Meyer was dealt a shitty hand, but Meyer made it worse by not handling it by the book and then really screwed himself by lying about it.  Armchair quarterbacking what Courtney Smith did or didn't do is really beside the point.

 

08/02/2018 - 10:37am My first job out of law…

My first job out of law school was at a small personal injury firm, and we had this case where a lady had gotten a pretty bad case of food poisoning from a Taco Bell chicken burrito.  So I call her up to get some details about the case, and she informs me that she only ate half the burrito and kept the other half in her freezer for "analysis."  (This is months afterward, mind you.).  I'm like, "yeah, we're probably not really going to be able to have the burrito analyzed.."  But she wasn't satisfied with that, so a week later she shows up the my office with the thawed burrito in hand and insists I take it to some kind of lab.  

I think that might have been the first client I ever fired.

08/02/2018 - 10:28am I do think, in the abstract…

I do think, in the abstract that pressuring Courtney Smith not to press charges was a worse action than declining to fire Zach Smith.  But Meyer declined to fire Smith in 2015, after he'd exhibited a long history of abuse, whereas in 2009 appears to have been at least some plausible idea that the abuse was a one-time thing and that Zach could get counseling and not do it again.  So which one is worse?  Beats me.  

08/02/2018 - 7:52am Eh.

Even if Michigan fans…

Eh.

Even if Michigan fans may have ulterior motives for wanting to see Meyer removed, that doesn't mean it's not also the appropriate thing for OSU to do based on Meyer's acts and omissions.  

08/02/2018 - 7:27am Meyer is a very good in-gme…

Meyer is a very good in-gme coach, but his real value seems to be in building and sustaining that program.  He's always had a great eye for assistant coach talent--so when one assistant would leave, he's always been able to find a great new assistant as a replacement.  He's always been able to recruit good players. He's always ran schemes that are easy to teach and that work well in the college game.  It was one thing when he was at BGSU and Utah; now that he's accumulated wins and championships and taken over powerhouse programs like Florida and OSU, he has cache that makes all these benefits seem to come to him even more easily--top assistants are happy to come work for him, top talent is eager to play for him. 

If Meyer is fired, it's unlikely his replacement will function quite as well in all of these areas.  The new coach may be less reliable in selecting the best assistants, or may not work well with certain key people on staff.  The new coach might not have as good an eye for talent, or may want to impose new schemes that don't work as well as Meyer's have.  The new coach probably won't have multiple NCAA rings and a gaudy winning percentage like Meyer does, and thus might have to work a little bit harder to attract top out-of-state talent.  And if OSU doesn't win at the same level right away, things could get harder rather than easier.

This kind of decline, however, would probably occur gradually over multiple seasons.  Barring some kind of player exodus or staff drama, Meyer's absence probably gives M only a slightly better chance of winning The Game in 2018.  They still have all the same players and all the same assistants.  As strong of a team as M will have in 2018, I still think OSU would have to be favored at the Horseshoe as of yesterday, and I'm not convinced that changes with Meyer gone.  

 

08/01/2018 - 3:49pm I don't know if Cardale will…

I don't know if Cardale will ever top "I ain't come to play skool" but he's welcome to continue trying.

08/01/2018 - 3:47pm Well, it's 3:46 p.m on the…

Well, it's 3:46 p.m on the East Coast.  Urban, you can resign any time now...

08/01/2018 - 2:09pm Even in the unlikely event…

Even in the unlikely event that OSU does fire Urban, he will then be replaced by a lab-created golem with the reconstructed brains of Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, and Bobby Fischer.  

08/01/2018 - 12:31pm I used to work in a place…

I used to work in a place where a colleague had sexually harassed several female colleagues.  He was reprimanded by the management (not me), but wasn't fired.  Plenty of people on the staff, including me, thought he should have been.  While lots of people on staff knew about this situation, it wasn't exactly something we broadcast to the outside world.  The harasser guy is still employed at the organization.

I now work at a different place.  Am I somehow tainted by the fact that I used to work at a different job where sexual harassment occurred and probably wasn't dealt with adequately?  Should I be telling my new employer or funders or the media about the situation at my old job?  If the situation at the old job is somehow uncovered, do I have 'splainin' to do?

I think Warinner is in a pretty similar spot.  He's not responsible for what Smith did.  Whether he agreed or disagreed with how Meyer handled the situation, that was Meyer's call and not Warinner's.  He's not tainted by any past knowledge, and didn't have any duty--legal or moral--to take any other action as far as I can tell. 

08/01/2018 - 11:31am Here are my top five that…

Here are my top five that hadn't been mentioned as of when I started this post:

1) Andre Weathers INT return vs. OSU in '97 (basically put the game away)

2) Kenny Demens game-winning tackle vs. Northwestern in OT

3) Wheatley 88-yard TD run in Rose Bowl

4) The Dadrion Taylor hit (yes, I know it's controversial)

5) Denard's first play

07/31/2018 - 4:47pm It seems like Taylor's most…

It seems like Taylor's most likely path to the field is if he could become some kind of short-yardage specialist.  Like, if he could get really good at pass protection, become an effective receiver, and develop the ability to burrow out tough yards against stacked fronts.  Sort of a Vincent Smith 2.0. Or the old man version of Leroy Hoard (who said "if you need one yard, I'll get you three--if you need five yards, I'll get you three").  

He's not going to play ahead of guys like Higdon and Evans, because--especially as a redshirt freshman--he's not going to offer any combination of skills that's better than what M can get out of Higdon or Evans in any conceivable situation.. But Higdon and Evans won't be here forever, and Taylor should improve as the years go by.  He could potentially have a role later on if he presents a combination of skills that exceeds what the other backs can offer in any particular scenario. 

For example, maybe in a couple years M might have backs who can grind out tough yards but are lousy blockers and receivers, and then backs who can block & catch but can't get a tough yard between the tackles. If Taylor can do all those things, maybe he's the guy who comes in to bang out the first down on 3rd & 1 or score the vulture TD or catch the throwback screen.  

Could happen. Maybe.

 

07/31/2018 - 3:48pm This seems like the critical…

This seems like the critical passage from the Football Outsiders link:

"Speed Score measures speed in the context of strength and power. It doesn't measure agility, receiving ability or any of the other aspects related to the position. It does not claim that a larger player with a higher 40 time is somehow faster than a smaller player with a lower 40 time thanks to the power of exponentiation. Speed Score is useful because it's beneficial for a running back to be both fast and large."

It seems like the Speed Score could be a slightly helpful way of assessing whether a big RB has "enough" speed, or whether a small RB is fast enough to compensate for his lack of size--assuming, of course, that assumes the weights and 40-times you're using are reliable, that the bigger backs are heavier because of muscle rather than fat, etc.  But at most this is going to be one data point in a sea of factors (vision, hands (both for ball security and receiving), blocking ability, attitude, football IQ, agility, stamina, and so on). 

It would be one thing if having a high Speed Score was consistently correlated with being a successful RB and that having a low Speed Score was consistently correlated with a lack of success.  But the examples given show both that some unsuccessful backs had high Speed Scores and that some highly successful backs had low scores. So it really tends to look like an arbitrary measurement IMO.

  

 

07/31/2018 - 3:12pm Hey, does Magnus still do…

Hey, does Magnus still do those "Player X, Wolverine" posts when a guy commits?  I just tried to find the one for Muhammad and nothing came up.  

If Magnus does still do them, I wonder if it would be worth adding the player's "TTB Rating" to these recruiting summaries along with the 247, Rivals, and ESPN assessments.