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02/21/2018 - 3:51pm That's ridiculous

9 out 10 our HS football players have no clue who Billy Graham was.  His last nationally televised sermon was what, 10, or 20 years before they were born?  Even the preachers he directly influenced like Pat Robertson or Jerry Farwell have mostly left the public eye.  There is no doubt he greatly influenced the evangelical movement of the late 20th century, but suggesting that players won't come to Michigan because some people object to his outdated views on some social issues is just silly.

01/02/2018 - 10:28am Canada's only been at LSU one year

the issue with their offense this year is that Oregeron (or Cajun Hoke if you prefer) meddled in the offense, asking Canada to take out all the motions and shifts, which is the key part of his offense.

Go look at the Pitt offense in 2016 when they beat Clemson for a good idea of what Canada's offense can be at its best.

11/28/2017 - 12:18pm Pointing out obvious errors by the refs

does not mean you are absolving our team from blame for the loss.  There were plenty of things that we could have done better.  But the officiating was horrendous, and for the second year in a row in this rivalry, it was deicdedly to our detriment (the whole :00 playclock thing is quite common in most games, as delay of game is usually called about a second or so after the playclock expires.)  There's nothing wrong with pointing that out.

11/28/2017 - 12:12pm At the game

the scoreboard and announcer announced it as a first down, whereas the refs and the sideline down markers listed it as a 2nd down.  Really glad we scored there, as I'm not sure most of the crowd realized that it was really third down, not second down as the scoreboard read.

11/27/2017 - 2:30pm This may be the best single line you've written since 11 Swans

"And even though O'Korn just set a winnable Ohio State game on fire in a way that has probably never happened before or will happen again, I care a lot more about his feelings than some jabroni on the internet who doesn't have to introduce himself under his screen name."

This game hurts, not because its any big indicator of the state of the program(if anything it was a positive sign that even with bad qB paly we still had a chance to win late), it's that the general randomness of the universe has lead to good people like O'Korn, like Speight, like Hurst, or any of the other seniors to miss a chance to accomplish the one thing they wanted more than anything else, to win the year's last game.  John O'Korn might not have been good enough to be a successful starting QB at Michigan, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good representative of our university and won't be a successful Michigan man in his life.  Anybody who can watch his press conference after the game, and still feel the need to heap abuse on him when he's at the lower point emotionally than any of us can imagine really needs to check themselves.

Good luck in all your future endeavors, John.

10/31/2017 - 1:15pm Guess at the Cmte's initial rankings

1) Georgia

2) Alabama

3) Clemson

4) Notre Dame

5) Penn State

6) Ohio State

7) Wisconsin

8) Oklahoma


The Cmte has said they don't consider head to head until the very end of the process and right now, PSU's wins have been slightly better than OSU's.

10/11/2017 - 2:34pm I would add

end NCAA soccer.  Or at least make it clear that players with the opportunity to go to youth academies who make the choice to play NCAA soccer are essentially giving up their future in the international soccer of the national team.

Or, find a way to make NCAA soccer look like NCAA football or basketball, where most of the best players at the best schools spend almost all their time working to improve as players, and competition for those spots is fierce.

10/11/2017 - 2:25pm What is it about anti-soccer people

(Is their a specific term for those people?) that they feel the need to make sure everyone knows that they don't like soccer, like the kid in middle school who made sure to tell everyone how not gay he was at every opportunity?  As if people will think less of you if you actually enjoyed watching soccer.

09/30/2017 - 12:41pm Pretty bold of him

to predict a win over Eastern Michigan so far out.

08/11/2017 - 10:29am Maybe he could try returning punts

He seems to be good at avoiding people.

If D. Smith can do it...

08/09/2017 - 9:32am Some guesses


Never played LSU

Loses to Bama (2x), Auburn, A&M, South Carolina (2x), Miss St, Tenn, Missouri, Georgia, 

Wins over Ark, Miss, Auburn, Bama, A&M, Florida, Georgia, SC, Vandy, Missouri and maybe Kentucky?

08/02/2017 - 10:30am Guesses

02 - Heston
48 - Chappius
51 - Elliot
65 - Timberlake
81 - Woolfolk
89 - Hoard
93 - Wheatley
98 - Griese

04/13/2017 - 1:29pm Adding numbers might be helpful

especially for the freshmen or other players who may have new numbers from last year.

I can't believe the official site hasn't posted spring game rosters.  Seems like an obvious way to boost attendence.

04/11/2017 - 3:44pm I think a lot of people

more knowledgable than me have pointed to that series as the point where Michigan Hockey really turned the corner and Yost became the Yost that people are describing in this thread. 

04/11/2017 - 2:00pm My first game at Yost

was game two of the infamous Cornell series in the NCAA tournament where the Cornell fans taught us how to be hockey fans.  I was instantly hooked.  Having grown up at Michigan Stadium, having gotten student season basketball tickets at Crisler after the national championship year, Yost blew me away.

It's hard to tell if the team played the way it did because of Yost, or if Yost became the madhouse it was because of the team.  Either way, it can all be laid at the feet of Red.  His teams played with relentless speed and skill.  Everytime you looked up they were on an odd man rush.  He wasn't adverse to running up the score, especially if he felt the other team had slighted his team or his players in any way.  It was the exact opposited of Lloydball.  And the crowd fed off that.  We taunted, teased, and cajoled the opposition.  You knew they could hear us.  For that opposing goalie it must have been like jumping in a deep pool with a bunch of sharks.  They could circle you for hours, but eventually they were going to strike, and once the first one got to you, it would become a feeding frenzy.

One of my favorite things at Yost was talking to, and watching fans who were experiencing the atmosphere for the first time.  Numerous times I had people ask me, "What are they saying?!?" referring to some sort of quasi-obscene thing the students were saying.  

At some point in the late 80s, early 90s, Notre Dame scrapped their hockey program.  A few years later they restarted it (IIRC Dave Poulan was the coach).  Their first year back they played a game at Yost that we ended up winning 13-0.  At that game I sat near a guy from Boston who was talking about wanting to see the Michigan team to see if they were as good at the BU team he saw on a regular basis.  After every goal he scored he commented in amazement about how good this player or that player for Michigan was.  He spent the whole game with his jaw dropped.  At one point midway through the third period with us already up by double digits, the crowd (mostly students) started chanting "F%$^ the Irish" The guy turned to me and said, "Boy, they don't let up do they?"  As he was saying that, we scored another goal.  I responded as I put both hands in the air for the goal count, "Neither does the team".   

In many ways, Red was Bo, and Bo was Red.  All the qualities that we admired in Bo, toughness, loyality, belief in hard work, dedication to making sure that his players were true student-athletes, integrity, tatical genius, Red had in spades.  He just did it longer, but on a smaller stage.

Thank You Red, for making me a hockey fan.

01/30/2017 - 3:34pm In the 60s and 70s,

Bob Ufer would have hosted the thing.  That would have gotten everyone fired up.

11/27/2016 - 11:58pm There's an old quote

"Never attribute to a conspiracy an action that can be explained by incompetence"

or words to that effect.

10/29/2016 - 10:18pm We were in section 19

It was at least 50/50 near us, if not more Michigan fans. I'd say it was 40% Us / 60% throughout the stadium.

10/25/2016 - 9:56am So did Northwestern


and BYU,and Maryland, and Indiana, etc.

10/06/2016 - 2:46pm If there have been three forfeits, the AD of the dominant team

is scheduling wrong.

Why not have the smaller school teams like Granite Falls play the freshman or Junior varsity team from the Archbishop Murphy?  The Archbishop Murphy should be looking to get higher profile matchups for his varsity team if everyone in their conference is scared to play them this year.  It's not fair to the kids from either team to have them miss games, because the adults can't go the extra mile to find appropriate opponents for both teams.

09/28/2016 - 10:37am Race relations aren't "as bad as they've been in 40 years"

our awareness of those problems has changed.  

Anyone who grew up in a largly african american community knows that unequal treatment of people of color by law enforcement is not a new phenomenon.  Remember Rodney King? Remember the Detroit Riots of 67?  The Watts riots of 65?  There have been countless cases of publicized police brutality over the last 60 years or so.  Driving While Black has been around for decades.  You can argue about one particular case or another, but the data is pretty clear, african-american men are shot by police at a rate far greater than their percentage of the population would suggest.  That's a societal problem

The idea that attitudes about racial relations are somehow manipulated by the media or by politicians is incredibly insulting to the people of color who are the victims of that bias.  You think the protesters are so stupid that they have to be told that they are being discriminated against?  How condescending.  Do you think the members of your family were "taught to hate cops", or do you think they formed their own opinion based on their interactions with law enforcement?  

No, what's changed is that with the change in technology, white america has begun to see the reality that african-americans, and other people of color have had to deal with decades (or more).  

09/21/2016 - 2:22pm Why would the administration need to

throw the Paterno Loyalists a bone"?  

Paterno betrayed the trust of countless kids, the players who played for him and he professed to love, and the university he claimed was the most important thing to him.  People who put his legacy above the name of the university and doing the community a disservice and shouldn't be "thrown a bone".  They should be told to take a hike, just like Paterno was.  It's people like them that allowed this to happen, that allowed football to become more important than the safety and well being of children.  It's this sort of "Joe can do no wrong attitude" that allowed him to operate outside of the law for so long, and allowed him to pretend that what he knew was going on wasn't really going on and wasn't worthy of his time or his concern.

08/30/2016 - 2:13pm Plan Two is good

but I would substitute Washtenaw Dairy for Stucchi's.  A little out of the way, but well worth it.

08/26/2016 - 12:00pm People who make jokes about killing cats

are shit and should be exterminated.

08/23/2016 - 11:26am It wouldn't surprise me if the back to back games @ MSU

were Brandon's idea.  He knew that with the nine game conference schedule there would be years when we had one less conference home game.  Perhaps he figured that having OSU and MSU at home in those years with five conference road games would even up the value of the home schedule year to year (i.e. seven home games with OSU, MSU = eight homes games without either of them)

It was a stupid idea, but given what we know about Brandon, would it really surprise anyone that this came from him?

I'm guessing we won't get two straight home games from MSU.  If we are the ones pushing for the change, then MSU has the upper hand and can dictate the terms.  The best we can probably hope for is a road game followed by a "road" game at Ford Field, followed by a home game.

07/07/2016 - 6:11pm Georgia only has three OOC games scheduled for 2018

Home game with UMass, Murray State and Georgia Tech.  A road game in AA would round that schedule out nicely.

06/14/2016 - 4:53pm Another suggestion

Make a targeting call more akin to a yellow card in soccer. (or the flagrant foul calls in the NBA playoffs) -  Not an immediate ejection, but if you get enough calls, you are kicked out of the next game.  Every targeting call is reviewed after the game at a centralized location.

06/14/2016 - 3:07pm Or, they could look into having Arkansas switch their games

If Arkansas would take the first home game, you could play ND at home in 18 and on the road.  According to, Arkansas only has two other non conference games scheduled in those two years, Norh Texas in 18, and Colorado State in 19, both at home.  It would be easy for them to flip flop the Michigan games.

06/14/2016 - 1:48pm Permanant Rivals

Illinois-OSU and IU-MSU would likely have to be included as protected rivals.  Also why not just make Minnesota/Iowa/Wisc/Nebraska all permanant rivals?  If we rotate all the other teams every two years, it wouldn't hurt not playing for the jug every year.

05/26/2016 - 2:46pm There's no doubt that the actions

of Briles, Starr and everyone else involved at Baylor were reprehensible and the NCAA should look into strong penalties. But Paterno covered up the criminal activities of his primary assistant for over two decades. He and others in power there enabled the behavior by letting Sandusky use Penn State's name and influence to set up a children's charity. Briles has 20 more years of enabling sexual violence before he reaches JoePa's level of wretchedness.

04/11/2016 - 5:34pm Don't blame Mork

He wanted to hold a satellite camp in Florida this spring, but Izzo told him he'd never get past Middle Tennessee

01/06/2016 - 2:00pm Well, if he's made his decision

and he's talking to Sam Webb after making that decision, that's a good sign, right?

10/28/2015 - 12:18pm These coaching speculation posts are a lot more fun to read

than they have been for the past 7-8 years.

10/20/2015 - 10:45am IIRC, it was a third down play at the M 40

they likely would have punted.  Instead they scored a few plays later.

10/19/2015 - 1:36pm Nightmare scenario for Sparty

We win out, they lose to OSU.  Pre-championship game poll comes out, OSU is 5, we're 6, MSU is 7.  In that case, we'd go to the Championship game, and sparties would go absolutely insane.

10/19/2015 - 12:34pm I admittedly was on the other side of the stadium

but I thought that the MSU players went back to that endzone to check on their injured player, who was getting strapped onto a board at that point before being sent ot the hospital.

That doesn't mean they're weren't plenty of examples of classless behavior on their part (little brother does as little brother is), but maybe not that particual incident.

09/29/2015 - 1:48pm Another game from the early 80s -- 1981 Illinois

The Illini came in with a high powered offense that threw the ball all around the field.  Kinda of like the best of Purdue during the Joe Tiller years.  Tony Eason, who would end up getting drafted by the Pats was their QB and was getting some Heisman buzz.  Their first three possessions they went right through our defense like a hot knife through butter.  By the end of the first quarter it was 21-7, and Illinois was driving again.  It looked like we were going to get blown out.  We intercepted a ball in the end zone, and it looked like someone just flipped a switch and we woke up.  We then proceeded to score 63 unanswered points to win the game 70-21. 

It was said that Bo ran up the score in them because he was upset they had fired Gary Moeller too quickly, and because he thought their head coach, mike White had done some dirty things in recruiting.

09/29/2015 - 12:22am "It is telling that 20% of Michigan’s solo tackles (6 of 30)..."

"...went for a loss."

Impressive math for a Buckeye.

09/28/2015 - 4:57pm Of course you only beat them because their QB got injured

you were losing when he went out.


09/09/2015 - 3:20pm That would give us only five home games in 2019

Even if two of them are OSU and MSU, there's no way we do that.

09/01/2015 - 4:56pm 17-16 Michigan

Michigan 17 Utah 16

12/31/2014 - 9:39am Iowa should make a run at Stoops

I know they're on the hook for a ton of money to Ferentz, but Stoops would be a huge hire and would raise the profile of the program tremendously.  For Stoops it would be a return to his alma mater and would put him in a job that is probably less stressful than OU in a very winnable BIG west division.

12/23/2014 - 3:08pm some of my favorite potent potable

drunk out of my 1985 Fiesta Bowl Champions glass.

10/30/2014 - 1:14pm No TD drive?

Not that i want you to subject yourself to more torture, but why didn't you chart the one TD drive?  Given how rare that occurance has been recently against MSU, it might be important to document it for posterity.

10/30/2014 - 10:16am Longest punt in Rose Bowl history

and probably the best former Michigan player to come from Wyoming (thermopolis, IIRC)

RIP, Mr. Bracken, condolences to his family and friends.

10/29/2014 - 12:29pm Did you differentiate between winning percentage at FBS

and winning percentage at FCS or lower levels?  If not, what's to stop you from rating that Arkansas HS head coach who's become famous for never punting as being more capable of success than Hermann or Narduzzi?

Look Stitt might have some great ideas and be a brilliant OC someday, but there is no comparison between coaching in D II, with partial scholarships, and players who have no pro aspirations and coaching major college football.  He would be the least qualified coach we've ever hired, and we would become a laughing stock if we hired him.   Can you think of one coach in the past that went straight from D II to a power conference team?  The only two that I can think of that are even close to comparable are Brian Kelly going from GVSU to CMU, and Kelly was FAR more successful at Grand Valley than Stitt has been at CSM, and he was local (i.e. knew the local HS coaches), and Gerry Faust going from Moeller HS in Cinncy to Notre Dame in the early 80s, and that was pretty much a disaster.

Also, why do you need to find ways to not rate Les Miles so high?  If you put your finger on the scale to influence the process to get the result you want, it's not much of an objective analysis is it?

Despite my quibbles, i like the idea of trying to quantify the pluses and minuses of every candidate.

10/27/2014 - 10:15am The first top 4 will be

Miss St





Based on games so far, I think it should be:

Miss St



Ole Miss.


Cmte will never pick three SEC teams, even though I think the top 4 SEC west teams would beat just about everybody else in the country on a neutral field.

10/23/2014 - 11:45am They have to get bodies in front of the BU goalie

stay out of the penalty box, be solid ont he penalty kill, take advantage of your power play opportunities...


Oh, you meant that other game.

10/06/2014 - 12:52pm At least the coaches

didn't put him back in the game with a broken clavicle.

09/30/2014 - 10:43am And the 8th one is a doctor (Ryder Diggs)

She might have some insight into the proper actions for the training staff.  If it's true that Brandon tried to coerce the MDs on staff to alter their versions of the incident, that will hit home with her.