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11/12/2017 - 9:40pm Was at the game Saturday and

Was at the game Saturday and it allowed me to see the whole field and really diagnose some of the issues. Sure, Peters missed a couple of throws including an open deep route - but a consistent theme throughout the entire game was that the receivers got 0 separation, and the playcalling consistently called for very slow developing routes. Due to this, receivers were generally never open or only open once Peters was already pressured. If this has been true the entire season, it may explain much of the QB struggles.

It's imperative that the D plays well against Wiscy and not get way behind early like at PSU. If we can do that, I think we can win a close game down the stretch. 

10/04/2017 - 12:43am I wonder why UM has done so

I wonder why UM has done so poorly with 2018 recruiting? Perhaps it has to do with the coaching turnover? No NJ recruits this year either.

10/02/2017 - 11:58am As I’ve said before, feel bad

As I’ve said before, feel bad for Wilton both short and long term with this tough injury. Nobody should go through that.

With that said, this team had close to zero chance of beating penn and Ohio state with the type of Wilton Speight we have seen this season. I’m also not confident in O’Korn but it’s time to try something new.

09/30/2017 - 2:35am I wouldn't sign up for these

I wouldn't sign up for these services because most things you can hear about for free elsewhere.

Also I've been listening to the wtka podcasts and while they are interesting, Sam is just too much of a homer for me to pay to hear more. I can't stand how he cuts off/hangs up on callers who give an ounce of criticism towards someone on the Michigan football team.

09/27/2017 - 1:29am Brohm just nostalgic for XFL

Brohm just nostalgic for XFL glory days:

He's also a Louisville guy at heart, and well, we all know how that program views dirty behavior. 

09/26/2017 - 12:52am It starts at 1:20 in the link

It starts at 1:20 in the link below. He didn't directly answer the question but I assume he means if Speight is healthy he will start.

09/26/2017 - 12:07am Harbaugh's appearance on the

Harbaugh's appearance on the Rich Eisen show earlier made it sound like Speight is still the starter so long as he's healthy. To me that's a mistake and is puzzling given the meritocracy the team preaches. Perhaps I misinterpreted his comments, but I find the coach's attachment to Speight a little unnerving. 

09/25/2017 - 11:32pm To be honest, this doesn't

To be honest, this doesn't make much sense. If anything, what the players are doing exemplifies exactly what the troops fight for - which is our sovereignty and everything it represents (constitutional rights). Freedom of expression is a constitutional right protected under the law, our laws say nothing about being unconditionally patriotic. I think you are confusing our country with a dictatorship. 

It's weird to me how not standing for the national anthem has been equated to hating troops. Really it has nothing to do with that at all. This isn't a Vietnam style protest in any sense. 

With that said, it's also someone's right to disagree with the players and not support the product they put out. However, some of the justification for the disagreement is definitionally anti-American in and of itself. 

09/25/2017 - 11:16pm Bumping this thread. Will fly

Bumping this thread. Will fly in and attend this game with my parents who live in the DC area and are UM alums. Anyone know if people dump tickets close to gametime for under face? It seems there is still quite a bit of unsold inventory left, and I'm not sure how many of those premium tickets they are going to move given their donation rules. 

Any further knowledge would be appreciated. 

09/23/2017 - 7:55pm I feel bad for Speight in the

I feel bad for Speight in the sense that the injury he had today looked nasty. 

With that said, I hope he doesn't start another game for Michigan. O'Korn will also surely lose a game this season with his happy feet, but Speight was about to lose us the Purdue game for christs sake. 

09/21/2017 - 2:07am I appreciated the work here,

I appreciated the work here, even if some people are critical. My main takeaway is not so optimistic. I see an offense where a bunch of guys are missing things and it makes the chances of this offense clicking in the near term more of a long shot. Now that we have to replace Black and break in a new guy, it might be an additional step back.

Looking back on Purdue's struggles in recent years, a lot of it can be pinned on their defense. They did put up points in most of their games. The fact that they have been playing pretty good D up to this point means we need to be much more creative in this game as I think the D will give up at least 20 points to Purdue. Trying to run the ball up the middle into blitzes isn't going to cut it (still don't know why Speight didn't check out of some of those plays?).  

09/21/2017 - 1:59am Two primary reasons teams

Two primary reasons teams don't run the offense: 

1. Can't recruit because it doesn't translate to the NFL

2. If you fall behind early, it's almost impossible to get back in the game 

Georgia Tech is a team I follow outside of Michigan and they have suffered in recent years from both of these issues (along with a poor defense). 

09/20/2017 - 4:54pm I'm pretty sure he will go

I'm pretty sure he will go pro if he is this good. He could be a 2nd round pick. 

09/20/2017 - 4:51pm Nordin didn't burn his

Nordin didn't burn his redshirt last year right? We still have him for 2 years after this?

09/18/2017 - 11:15pm I'll say it - this team with

I'll say it - this team with how its currently constructed won't beat OSU. Our scheme offensively is only effective with either a punishing O-line and/or a very talented QB. As usual, we won't be able to run the ball and Speight isn't the type of guy that will carry the team. 

09/18/2017 - 4:43am It's so sad to compare

It's so sad to compare today's offensive line to that team. To be able to maul DLs like that again...

09/18/2017 - 4:38am Is this really a road game

Is this really a road game though? How many UM fans will be in the crowd for this one? 

I am very nervous about this game, just like I was nervous against Air Force. Purdue has a great offensive mind running the show now so I suspect the ball will be coming out fast from the QBs hand pretty much all game. We need to pay attention to wheel routes and screens (a combination of what Cinci and Air Force exposed), and ensure that's covered. It's pretty much impossible to hit a deep route on Michigan unless they catch us in one of the very few non-blitz looks.

I predict Purdue will hit two big plays for TDs in this game and it's up to the offense to be able to exceed that. 

09/18/2017 - 4:11am I suspect the coach is being

I suspect the coach is being diplomatic when it comes to the UM offense, but what he says about the defense is probably 100% honest. 

Calhoun is a great coach and there is a reason why they are a legitimate threat to win the Mountain West every year. MUCH better than the Army team that OSU ran over. 

09/17/2017 - 9:29pm Agree with this post 100%.

Agree with this post 100%. Drevno seems to be the weakest link of the Harbaugh era and we can only hope he lands a HC job this summer so we can hire someone who specializes in play calling and just let Frey take over the line. Harbaugh has proven to be a pretty good evaluator of coaching talent when he is doing more of an organic search to find a coach and less so out of loyalty from previous stops. Drevno is a hold over from Harbaugh's first job and while I think he is an effective coach at certain levels, I don't think he is a natural play caller. 

With that said, the jury is still out on Pep Hamlton. The issues with Speight could be because Hamilton is implementing some new schemes that Speight is just having a tough time grasping. That and the issues with trusting the new receiving core I think was underestimated by the fan base. Hopefully it's one of these things where Speight will slowly progress throughout the season as he feels more comfortable with the new coaching and new receivers. 

In any case - I am actually quite surprised how mellow Harbaugh is about all of this. I realize a lot of it is for show and doesn't want outside criticism, but to see him blatantly brush off questions about offensive performance in press conferences makes me feel a little bit better about the trajectory of the team. If he feels good about where the team is than that is good enough for me until they start losing. 

09/17/2017 - 9:10pm He is particularly good in

He is particularly good in Don Brown's scheme which demands speed out of his position. Not sure how great he'd be at the next level in more traditional schemes because of his size. Despite that, I love that he uses his talent (his speed and his hands) to avoid being dominated by larger blockers. He's definitely the most aggressive player we have on either side of the ball. 

My hope is that he will still be a high draft pick, but you know how the NFL emphasizes measurables over anything else. 

09/17/2017 - 8:55pm I'd like some sort of

I'd like some sort of standardization of non-conference schedules, but it's not going to happen IMO. There is too much money on the line and in some cases, compensation and job retention for programs that limp to 6 wins every year. There is also a very legitimate argument to be made to support lower tier FBS and FCS programs with the payouts these programs receive. If anything should happen, it should be to align scheduling across power 5 conferences to at least balance out each league which would allow for more accurate conference evaluations. 

If you look at the link below, the Big Ten has only played 2 FCS opponents whereas every other power 5 conference has played at least 7. One could argue the MAC is like an FCS conference, but I'd say those teams are higher quality for the most part. The Big 10 also has played the most power 5 teams.

More than anything, I'd rather prioritize these rules: 

1) Implement  at least 1 preseason game with an FCS school (or similar) that would also have a payout associated with it. 

2) Shorten the season and implement a 16 team playoff

Of course with the 16 team playoff, scheduling would become even more political so I think it would open the door for some of your proposed reforms. 

09/17/2017 - 6:03pm FWIW if they instead created

FWIW if they instead created a B1G North/South based on 40.8 degrees north as the cutoff, you'd have: 


  • Michigan
  • Michigan State
  • Minnesota
  • Wisconsin
  • Iowa
  • Nebraska
  • Northwestern


  • Ohio State
  • Penn State
  • Rutgers
  • Maryland
  • Indiana
  • Illinois 
  • Purdue 
09/17/2017 - 12:18pm The scary thing is Harbaughs

The scary thing is Harbaughs loyalty to Drevno. If shit really does hit the fan and we lose 2-3 games because of the play calling/lack of development - would Harbaugh consider moving in another direction? I don't really think he would.

09/17/2017 - 2:26am The curse of Brady Hoke!

The curse of Brady Hoke!

09/16/2017 - 11:26pm Purdue is playing really

Purdue is playing really confident football. Team does worry me, especially as the first true road game of the season. I see UM pulling out a close one late but could easily see a loss in this one. 

The offense needs to stop being so vanilla. This game in particular emphasized how much the offense misses Jabrill Peppers. Need to run wildcat in the redzone in order to gain some perimeter rushing yards, but UM doesn't have a player to run it this year. Speight wasn't great in this game, but it was probably the best out of the three. The running game was poor, and the play calling was so predictable. Since the margin of error with Speight is low, really need the other parts of the offense to get going. 

09/16/2017 - 10:16pm Time to dust off Mo Ways. 

Time to dust off Mo Ways. 

09/13/2017 - 9:02pm Stanford because I am on the

Stanford because I am on the west coast and they are a peer opponent in my opinion. 

The other choices would be USC and Texas for recruiting purposes. 

09/08/2017 - 12:02am It's tough. Realistically the

It's tough. Realistically the B1G could get 2 teams in the playoff this year if both Michigan and Ohio State are undefeated going into that last game. OU plays in a soft conference, an early season loss really diminishes the Big XII's chances of getting a playoff team. Pac 12 has a high chance of not having a playoff team. For that reason, you'd like to pull for Ohio State. 

Of course losing on the recruiting trail and for the past decade does not feel good, and every loss for OSU helps to (hopefully) turn that around. 

So for that reason, most outcomes from this game have both pros and cons for UM - but I'd much rather have OSU win this game and then drop a couple of conference games. 

09/03/2017 - 9:31pm Typical west coast team

Typical west coast team outside of Stanford and occasionally USC - a lot of speed but no size whatsoever. UCLA just getting mauled. 

I know LA is appealing, but I still can't fathom how Michigan gets outrecruited for some players by this school. It's a great school but their fans don't care at all about football and the facilities are terrible. 

09/03/2017 - 6:52pm Good:
Michigan - Duh


Michigan - Duh

Purdue - looked much improved on defense which was a surprise.

Maryland - team looked good, still on the small side but going to a mobile QB gives them the best chance to win. Texas is awful on D though so we will see how impressive the win was. 

Iowa - really shocked they didn't crap the bed vs. Wyoming. Same type of Iowa team but they actually executed in game 1. 

Ohio State - was really hoping they wouldn't find a player like Dobbins. Barrett still can't throw, but it doesn't matter because they have so much line and backfield talent. 


Nebraska - defense was atrocious 

Minnesota - seems to be trying to force a system on players that are not meant to play in that system. Similar to when Rich Rod came to Michigan. 


09/03/2017 - 6:39pm Kalis got cut (big surprise),

Kalis got cut (big surprise), but might be on the practice squad. 

09/03/2017 - 3:24pm Speight was well protected in

Speight was well protected in this game save a few plays. The poor throws were on him. On the second pick 6 he airmailed there was a guy in his face but he is taller than that defender - no need to sail the throw. 

09/03/2017 - 3:18pm Did any of you watch the

Did any of you watch the Purdue game? They threw a lineman out for a hit on on the chest of Jackson (there wasn't even any helmet contact!). In my understanding of the rule and seeing what is called in other games - Bush should have definitely been thrown out. It's just so inconsistent that it's making it challenging for players to know how to play. 

09/03/2017 - 3:08pm +1 to everyone stating how

+1 to everyone stating how Gary and Hurst open up opportunities for others to make plays. It's hard to nitpick, but I'd like Gary to focus on finishing. At times he is moving so fast that he takes poor angles to the QB. It's a nice problem to have and I'm sure something Mattison can work with him on. 

I think DB said in one of the interviews that his defense is less about blitzing and pursuit and more about the threat of it. I think having a guy like Gary on the line will really impact the execution of a lot of QBs and opposing offenses this year and you saw it against Florida. 

09/03/2017 - 2:46pm Wish I could say they will -

Wish I could say they will - but the Big 12 is a joke.

I expect Mayfield to try to replicate Indiana's success in the first half, but they won't be able to compete in the trenches. OSU wins by at least two touchdowns. 

09/03/2017 - 2:44pm Harbaugh teams don't seem to

Harbaugh teams don't seem to overlook opponents, but it's easy to overlook these teams. Just asking for the same effort as Florida. Cincinatti doesn't appear to be any good, but don't sleep on Air Force - they also have a bye the week before to prepare for UM. 

09/02/2017 - 9:43pm Coaching isn't the problem

Coaching isn't the problem here. They had the team prepared and Florida was well scouted. 

They had to be more conservative on offense late in the game with the way Speight was playing. O'korn tucks and runs with the ball if hes in the pocket for more than 3 seconds - you can't play a guy like that. Soooo Speight it is. The guy's accuracy issues are alarming and I'm not sure what to do about it. He throws a decent deep ball to the middle of the field, but man the guy can't throw a fade. It's good Florida is such a joke because UM would have lost against any good B1G opponent with those type of turnovers. 

Hopefully it's first game jitters and he can get settled in. 

09/01/2017 - 4:53pm Thanks for setting this up...

Thanks for setting this up... this is a nice low consequence alternative to my CFB gambling addiction. 

08/30/2017 - 9:22pm It would be better if they

It would be better if they lost some line starters. Surely, the playmaker losses matter but losing O-line pieces with a Freshman QB would have really moved the needle. 

This game might turn out to have the youngest starters of any opening week game in college football. Hence, I don't think it's predictable either way even with the suspensions. 

08/30/2017 - 1:19am They are really talented at

They are really talented at the skill positions, but don't have much depth. Most of the OL outside of the right tackle were not highly recruited, but as we know OL recruiting rankings don't mean much. I know the FL coach says the OL is really improved this year, but this is the same OL that was one of the worst in the country the last two seasons. 

Defensive line is interesting. Clayton, who was a 5 star recruit two years ago is not even in the 2 deep. That could either mean they are really good there or Clayton is really underperforming.

Honestly talent wise these teams are kind of a wash. Will come down to coaching, QB play, and UMs revamped O-line I think.  

08/30/2017 - 12:36am To their defense - that

To their defense - that narrative used to be true. I think the recruiting changes the top programs in the big ten have made have certainly changed that, but stereotypes are hard to break. 

08/30/2017 - 12:33am "Nobody can block the guy"

"Nobody can block the guy" could also be interpreted as poor offensive line play. These camp comments prior to week 1 are worthless IMO. 

08/23/2017 - 12:03pm OSU QBs always seem to stick

OSU QBs always seem to stick around for 100 years and repeatedly destroy Michigan. What I would give for them to actually have some real struggle at that position. 

08/21/2017 - 8:40pm Thomas Rawls?

Thomas Rawls?

08/21/2017 - 8:34pm Is this the best QB Cleveland

Is this the best QB Cleveland could find? 

08/21/2017 - 6:48pm Hmmm perhaps this is why

Hmmm perhaps this is why Zordich seemed to be in a bad mood today? The assumption here would be that Washington has fallen down the depth chart but given the uncertainty at the DB position that would be surprising. He essentially would be only one injury or poor play away from being a starter. There has to be something else going on. 

08/21/2017 - 3:43pm I think that's a fair point.

I think that's a fair point. Everyone is different with respect to what motivates. For me, criticism motivates more than praise but many of my coworkers and management training these days seems to promote the opposite approach. Perhaps our DBs are playing reasonably well given their age but Zordich sees a higher ceiling and wants absolute focus going into Florida. 

08/21/2017 - 2:25pm I think it's all relative.

I think it's all relative. Coach Brown's defense places a ton of pressure on the secondary and safeties that even if the guys are playing average in any other system, they are underperforming in this one. 

I do expect UM to give up at least 2 big plays per opponent per game this season, let's just hope the offense can compensate for that. 

08/19/2017 - 5:46pm Yeah for sure, I'm sure it's

Yeah for sure, I'm sure it's especially cool for long time season ticket holders...

If you enjoy that aspect of membership I'd ensure to be vocal about it on surveying/feedback you provide. The trend in the sports industry right now is to not only eliminate hard stock, but even PDF as venues are implementing mobile only ticketing. This is to ensure teams collect as much data as possible on ticket utilization and limit external resale channels... I know for many professional teams, members have to pay an additional fee for hard stock tickets.  


08/19/2017 - 2:46pm I'm kind of surprised

I'm kind of surprised Michigan still distributes hard stock tickets. I'm assuming you guys also have a pdf and/or mobile option?