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12/15/2018 - 9:01pm Thad, the generation of TEAM…

Thad, the generation of TEAM is long gone for the majority of elite players. Guys like Winovich and Patterson are few and far between. I'm not even blaming Gary or Bush, I get it...problem is, MONEY MONEY MONEY...and one of my chief arguments regarding payment to players. Throwing more money at these guys REALLY makes it about the money and not the sport. I don't know that there is a way back, but I do rationalize there is no clarity handing out money. It will divide the programs which can from those who can't and many of the can'ts are already struggling...it's just not the fix here.

I agree eliminate the extra non-sense win six games bowls...put greater emphasis on conference champions and bowl rewards. We've gone so far to the everyone gets a trophy mentality everywhere. You win your conference you are in a playoff spot. You win your division, you get a big bowl bid...done.

12/13/2018 - 7:54pm we must have been in the…

we must have been in the minority...we kept our slum pretty neat. We were told we would have new furniture and new carpeting before we moved in as the stuff was trashed...wouldn't you know it, when the new stuff arrived it was delivered to...his son's apartment and we were stuck with dirty shit. When we complained he showed us his class ring and said when we graduate the world is ours, he owned ten similar buildings. Guy was an asshole slumload through and through.

12/12/2018 - 9:25pm problem is, it's not just…

problem is, it's not just football scholarships, it's mens/womens track, cross country each, tennis each, rowing, soccer, softball, baseball support, hockey support, women's basketball, gymnastics each, lacrosse, and many more. At bare minimum...that figure is double (women's sports must total at least 85 scholarships for football equity alone. so it's minimum 10-12 million...)

12/12/2018 - 9:23pm yeah, to say blame title IX…

yeah, to say blame title IX...it's a matter of words. The letter from Warde expressed that sentiment to me. 'we continue to be leaders and best' with outstanding facilities and all funded through our own athletics department.' What that spelled out for me is, the new track, rowing, performance, tennis, purchase of Fingerle lumber, etc. adnausum while gymnasts travel to Puerto Rico etc...that's coming from the football revenue. I was a non-revenue athlete and I know for fact we did not generate enough money to sustain our sport alone...add the inequity of 85 mens football scholarships, three women's sports barely add up to that total alone. In order to sustain the level of spending the cash is coming from somewhere. And if they are sporting a $2.5 fund balance...yeah...raising prices seems a bit shitty. Is it the fault of title IX? no...but is title IX factoring into their way of conducting athletics financials.? it sure is.

12/12/2018 - 9:17pm point well made 1.8. If it's…

point well made 1.8. If it's being done out of frustration, simply not re-upping tickets just says you aren't buying tickets. Calmly explaining your frustration sends an actual message. Going all 'F-U you stupid morons'...that's not getting it done either. 

12/12/2018 - 3:17pm Blue, I appreciate the…

Blue, I appreciate the support, as an alum I'd love to have him enjoy similar experiences and honestly he's feeling the same way...but the alternative isn't any slouch and I believe is actually higher than UM in some of the fields he's interested in. It will be a tough choice. He has a chance to play baseball, that may be a deciding factor as well...my heart says UM...my gut is telling me it won't work out that way sadly. I just hope he's happy wherever he goes. Yes I know UM engineering is top rate, it's why he only applied to three schools :)

12/12/2018 - 3:09pm agreed MgrowOld...and to…

agreed MgrowOld...and to that point it's more insulting that they share how we are a self-sustaining athletic program essentially saying our dollars are keeping all sports running and doing anything and everything they want to do...so at some point, and it very well might be this year for me, the cost allocation of spending bigger and bigger will make that 55" TV, no wait for a restroom break, Tivo replay, and actual store cost of food and beverages that much more enticing. I figure I'm already paying TV rights, since they call most of the shots now...time to enjoy it and say have fun packing the stadium when more and more are already doing the same. 

12/11/2018 - 9:45pm That's pretty funny...

That's pretty funny...

12/11/2018 - 8:25pm haaaa...you are a complete…

just...whatever anymore...take any statement out of context...nice digging from three fucking years ago...move on.mj_popcorn.gif

12/11/2018 - 8:13pm My son applied, was…

My son applied, was originally told he did not submit all of his information in time. We called, contacted, and discovered yes..he did, and it was their oversight. At that point they guaranteed a decision no later than Dec. 24. I too received an email stating the very same as the OP...at this point he's leaning toward a different engineering school. I agree with him, it is what it is. UM isn't the end all be all. While it would be nice and he loves the school, loves the program, loves the sports, his grades and scores are good enough UM isn't a necessity. It's sad that it has come to this and thankfully it's not a big deal with him either.

12/11/2018 - 4:19pm (No subject)

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12/11/2018 - 4:00pm here's some modern football…

here's some modern football for you...fast 40 times doesn't equate to great and talented football player. It wasn't a slight on John, the dude worked harder than anyone. Not once did I say he was terrible. I was there during his career...I remember it pretty well. He had great speed, but he was a grinding receiver and made routes happen. Apparently your definition and my definition of incredibly talented are very different.

12/11/2018 - 10:53am a difference I'd qualify,…

a difference I'd qualify, this is John's kid...Kolesar himself wasn't incredibly talented but worked his ass off to become a premier receiver in our program. John is a pretty solid guy and as many have said, as a legacy kid at UM, it's not the same as being a legacy other places...safe bet he will work hard, contribute, and possibly mature into a pretty solid clutch receiver. If he is half as productive as his dad was...it would be a good pickup. Not every kid comes out of the box NFL ready...and maybe he isn't even on a path to the NFL...maybe he just wants to be part of the team. If he was all state in Ohio, I'd guess he's good.

12/10/2018 - 9:25pm don't want sound advice in…

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don't want sound advice in dealing with mental health...stop announcing you have mental health issues. I posted a link to an article I just read...thought maybe it might help you...you post an article of Colin K...why I can only wonder. You can't PLAY THE VICTIM CARD REPEATEDLY when you instigate the problem..

12/10/2018 - 5:53pm I visited Indianapolis in…

I visited Indianapolis in 1988, it was...not a nice area. I returned in 1995, and the entire area, thanks to a lot of investment and RCA/etc...turned that city on a dime. The train station and warehouse district turned into profitable shops and resteraunts, the entire area was great. Detroit CAN revive, the options are there but the auto industry is a major gorilla in the room...They need to find other ways to fund the revival, and it needs a lot of investment. I think moving the major sports teams down town has helped. The DP sports field where old tiger stadium was is really nice. It would be a perfect location for mhsaa state tournament finals baseball play. Just a lot that COULD be done, but they can't rely on automotive money anymore. The funding needs diversity

12/10/2018 - 4:12pm (No subject)

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why thanks...I just finished reading an article and needed something else to do...

https://www.psychcongress.com/article/cannabis-lightens-mood-may-worsen-depression-over-time

12/10/2018 - 11:30am (No subject)

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12/10/2018 - 10:55am good question. I was around…

good question. I was around at the change of this limit.

The good...it did what it was supposed to at that time, and I doubt 85 was arbitrary, I'm sure on some level they determined depth, development, and what it would take at bare minimum to field a highly competitive team. I know in the days prior, teams like Michigan could load up talent for the sake of preventing OSU/MSU from getting them. Selfishly it helped the big teams stay big. In the end the shift allowed guys to go elsewhere and I think it did and still does help other programs remain competently competitive. It's fair to say the limit on scholarships doesn't make a team great. Even UM had some tough times with poor coaching etc.

The Bad...as said, there are other factors, like...Bama...money is making this more of a problem than a help. Teams in the SEC and otherwise are notorious for bagmen implications and it makes the high margin gap wider as all the 5* go to the best team. On one end, well, good job Bama, maybe we need to get better. We have all the other pieces in place. NFL talent, great coaches, great campus and tradition...EXCELLENT academics. We also have high academic standards thus...some stars may not make it or want that kind of play skool challenges.

The side effect. Due to Title IX the 85 limit has hurt many other men's programs at schools with limited resource. Northwestern dropped track and field because they had to maintain balance with men's and women's scholarships. Unlike big schools they couldn't just throw together extra women's teams to create balance. Track in particular, women had twice the scholarships available. Football at 85 is more than many women's teams combined...To me it should be taken out of the scholarship equation, football at many schools is the only financial reason other teams happen...they make the money. It's a tough deal. I'm not sure reducing scholarships is the answer either. Is it fair that a football player suddenly loses a scholarship to level the field? I guess they did it once but I doubt it's much of a fix at this point seeing what we have. Teams just need to get better and in my opinion., the NCAA needs to get off it's ass and figure out what's going on and level some punishments where appropriate.

12/10/2018 - 10:41am haaa J I know but hey…

haaa J I know but hey...maybe just maybe? A kid can dream :)

12/09/2018 - 9:34pm dude...try CBD oil instead…

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12/09/2018 - 9:33pm I wasn't in school 80 years…

I wasn't in school 80 years ago, and it wasn't the same as it is today. Desmond and company didn't have Nike deals and the whoring out of teams like it is today. It's changed a lot and the landslide started around 1991 when the B1G became the B11G and added some minor corporate deals to the mix. I'm not really intimidated by your tough guy head in the sand persona...save it for someone who cares. If you don't agree, fine, if you completely disagree, fine...but your all or nothing pot shots really don't define your argument it just comes off as petty and sad.

Yes it's now a billion dollar business (that's considered conceding points) but throwing money at players isn't a fix, it's being weak and giving up on a problem, and won't solve a thing...it won't level the field, it will just increase revenues bama and the like hand down, by the margin now considered legal handouts.

12/09/2018 - 8:42pm solid point...and elite…

solid point...and elite talent pays attention to that fact. Guys like Peppers and Gary who could be driven by that motive choose Michigan for other reasons. I'll take guys like those two every time.

12/09/2018 - 8:34pm I doubt anyone compares…

I doubt anyone compares stretchgate to what Alabama does/SEC is notorious for. Difference is we get caught/self report.

12/09/2018 - 8:28pm I sincerely can't make this…

I sincerely can't make this up. My Junior year we were in Tuscaloosa. Kid decked out head to toe in UM gear. He approached us asking what it was like to play for Michigan. I obviously hinted at 100,000 fans, the tradition, etc. He wanted to know how much he'd get...we had to break it to him that wasn't the norm. He was let down as his buddy signed when the caddy for his momma showed up with $10K in the trunk and just assumed it would take longer coming from Ann Arbor. We suggested maybe he was going to wait for something that doesn't happen here. His sophomore year he left the UM program.

12/09/2018 - 8:18pm being realistic…

being realistic...Northwestern gave us some fits at times. I want to be told we will win out. My heart tells me things I don't want to listen to right now. Anyone can fall at any time at the top. just hope they keep winning.

12/09/2018 - 8:16pm I would expect nothing less…

I would expect nothing less from those two. And for any sitting out, while I'd rather see us at full team depth and strength...far be it from me to chime in, they are young adults, they put in the time. If they have bigger plans, so be it, best of luck to any and all of them going forward. I'd argue each and every young man on this team did things the right way, stayed the course, kept the University and it's values in perspective, and represented the team to the best of their ability. 

12/09/2018 - 3:00pm It's not kinesiology...it's…

It's not kinesiology...it's sports management and communication. Kines as 200+ is pretty challenging if that's what the implications are. Not to say sports management is simple but any topic can be easy if you don't need to show up to class.

12/09/2018 - 2:58pm I get the intent of if bama…

I get the intent of if bama is doing it just pay everyone...that's the wrong direction. It won't level the field one bit. The schools like Clemson bama OSU Auburn et Al will just pay more and stay ahead. It's not a feasible process. Part of college sports is that drive to succeed and we are personally seeing the money effect with Rashan Gary. More power to him but he's choosing money over team and it's a trend that is just starting where declining bowls is suddenly a thing...

Army Navy was a hard fought Game and most of those kids play for Honor and passion not $$$. The purity of sport is lost in tv revenue Nike this Adidas that, GM Allstate fox you name it. The game is changing and not for the best. Once money drove the system it became a different proposal. Handing football players money is a Pandora's box..

12/08/2018 - 10:32pm uhhh Shea and DPJ looked…

uhhh Shea and DPJ looked pretty damn good all but two games if you want to look at it that way. Consider DPJ is a sophomore, and Shea might as well have been sophomoreish considering it's his first season in our offense. I hated losing to OSU as much as anyone possibly could. But a ten win season and dominating 9 of those ten wins, when we pounded PSU and WU everyone acted like we were on a destiny to beat Bama...we were beaten soundly in Columbus, it's not going to flip overnight. I still believe we need McCaffrey to get healthy and start, or Milton, and groom our OWN QB depth not the next hot transfer. If Shea is still the guy next season, it's not a bad thing either, He did his job, showed his guts at times, and played at a higher level than anything we've had in a long time.

12/05/2018 - 8:57pm and that's the twist...DPJ…

and that's the twist...DPJ shows as LSA undeclared, but if he's looking into MED school...that doesn't scream fluff classes as undeclared. It says to me, he's not in a concentration yet as a SOPHOMORE...and probably keeping some options open. I know there was a lot said long ago as the Mike Hart era was full of undeclared non-focused blow offs but I think some of that needs to be taken with a grain of salt...both then and now. I know courses at UM are difficult no matter what you are focused in. I did master's work at Toledo, and at the start I thought, college is college, you simply pay to get a degree...NOPE...Toledo and their grad students weren't even in the same decade of learning. Great people and few good profs in my degree area, but the students...yeah, not even close to the level of Michigan. The competition was far different.

12/05/2018 - 3:20pm to me this conference…

to me this conference championship mess is everywhere...SEC, B1G etc...eliminate all of that shit. Cut the regular season schedule down, playing Army, Airforce, EMU, WMU, Louisiana Laffayette, smallville polytechnic etc is a damn joke. You face all the teams in your division or conference, the top team advances to a 16 team playoff. Cuts down to 8, cuts down to 4, cuts down to championship game...

https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/football/d3/2018

DIII figured it out. Last I knew they were still playing football against similar teams. Still going to class, still practicing. How do they survive 16 team football playoffs? It's the same game, with similar preparation between opponents. Stop padding the SEC schedules with pansy teams in week 11....stop fluffing B1G schedules in weeks 1-3. Play out your schedules with one or two non-cons, the rest is league opponents, and if you lose your conference and win 7 games you play in one of the warm state friend bowls..use the current fiesta, cotton, sugar, peach, rose, orange, etc as the playoff bowls and make them count...hell use the first two rounds home field advantage...hey bama welcome to Ann Arbor in mid November.

12/05/2018 - 11:23am and in the end, I am fine…

and in the end, I am fine with the idea that a culture of cooler poopers is SO incredibly focused on one team, their complete existence hinges on it. Meyer inherited a depth of talent, and it ran it's course just like it did in Miami. He's a football locust. I want to defeat osu as much as anyone, but I'd never sacrifice the integrity of the program in favor of it. Whereas most buckeyes will sell their souls for it. It's a game played by teens and 20 somethings...life goes on.

12/03/2018 - 9:39pm my thoughts too...rather…

my thoughts too...rather than sourpuss disrepekt...Painter at least had the humor/humility to crack a joke, Purdue is no slouch, so it says a lot the respect programs now have for UM.

12/03/2018 - 10:30am no...throwing more money and…

no...throwing more money and directly at the players isn't the fix/ money and the drive for more money is already the problem. You want to take things back to amatuer players playing for the love of the game, stop all this NFL/brand management BS. Sorry giving college kids money to play a sport is...pro sports. 

12/01/2018 - 9:11am not to mention...I am pretty…

not to mention...I am pretty sure Dylan, given the start could have come away with 8 wins...and possibly the same 10, and likely the same,outcome, maybe not against OSU..so what's the groupthink so bunched up about? Both are good quarterbacks. I personally agree with the idea starting young players when your program has been on the shits and is now starting to move upward is the best approach. I am fine with Shea coming back, earning the start...but how long can the program continue a cycle of transfers/grad transfers as a starter and eventually move forward? EVERYONE...and I mean EVERYONE wants to beat OSU...we are 0-4 with the transfer qb system. what's that definition of insanity? And I 100% get it's not all on the shoulders of the qb...but Shea certainly demonstrated it makes one hell of a difference overall.

11/30/2018 - 9:50pm Rx I have all the respect in…

Rx I have all the respect in the world for Shea, he did a great job all season. He is an excellent young man. Personally, I think we need to give Milton/McCaffrey the opportunity to grow into the role and develop quarterbacks instead of playing transfer roulette.  Yep Shea worked out...O'Korn, not so much. Both McCaffrey and Milton have looked good enough to take some lumps, and grow. Sorry, I know it's been '15 passes.' and a handful of runs, but Dylan looks damn good. I don't see much if any drop off if Shea decides to declare for the draft. If he stays, that's not a bad deal for us or for him either. But at some point we need to develop underclassmen as the future.

11/30/2018 - 10:30am circumvents-...as it finds a…

circumvents-...as it finds a way around, thanks skippy...thankfully I got dat one durrr.... so...tell me what company, private enterprise is willing to fork over cash for women's sports to stay on an equal field with men's sports and endorsements? I know in some bubble this seems easy. Yep, maybe at Michigan, maybe at OSU...but what about Toledo, Eastern (who by the way is already cutting sports because they can't afford them...) when I was a student athlete, the NCAA enforced a letterhead control...because schools like UM could afford multicolor letterhead with maize AND blue...they had what was perceived a recruiting advantage. So UM complied, and used monochrome (one color, possibly even in different tones/shades) and probably spent more on that monochrome letterhead than the original M with maize and blue...so yeah...I fully understand it, I lived it, don't flatter your smug arrogant ass...

11/29/2018 - 3:11pm ya'll are damn fools if you…

ya'll are damn fools if you think opening up payment to players even as endorsement deals is going to help Michigan...and that's the stem of this stupidity. It won't solve shit. With open endorsement it would help Michigan kids...but not Michigan in the sense, Clemson, Bama, and OSU could continue piling on more than we would and could be more open about it. Too many of you think this somehow levels the field for UM...yeah, no chance. It would open the gap further and you couldn't reign it back in. not to mention, the elite 20 or so teams could set a bar smaller programs could never afford. And don't you think for ONE SECOND you have a right to pay football players and not female athletes and non-revenue sports...fat chance.  The simplicity and stupidity in this tired conversation is unreal.

11/29/2018 - 9:35am this is correct. Most upper…

this is correct. Most upper bowl sections start around row 22, and go to the 40's. They have a huge replay screen and you can see fairly well from anywhere. The atmosphere against Purdue will be worth it regardless.

11/27/2018 - 4:26pm welcome to 2018, everything…

welcome to 2018, everything is over-analyzed and scrutinized for every reason, good, bad, relevant, or otherwise...so yeah, guess life itself is pathetic these days...not really the poster.

11/26/2018 - 10:05pm coming from a guy who played…

coming from a guy who played at the end of the 'good days'...I take your word Brown Bear as substance. I know you've stayed reasonably close to the program, I've felt the same way for a LONG time and voiced that opinion for a long time. To me it's reassuring to know many feel the same way. Carr rode the coat tails until he couldn't...ironically Steve Fisher did pretty much the same when he took over the basketball program.

11/24/2018 - 11:33am agree with this. We have a…

agree with this. We have a big enough lead the officials will be a non-factor. This team is on a mission.

11/24/2018 - 12:14am bah haaaa...wow, so…

bah haaaa...wow, so landoscarlet1, now....NOW you want to pull the legal felony card...difference is, we don't promote guys like that to captain, or hire them on as a legacy coach...or pass it off as a littering charge down the road...talk about tired and played. perhaps a look at your own glass house...err....tatoo shops, free cars, playin' skool kids could teach us here michiganders about actin' all proper and stuff...is there some sort of guide to fine trailer park living that might be available in books on tape? And more tired rhetoric, football was invented and contested more than 14 years ago.

Yep, you've had your little run of beating down Rodriguez and clappity flintstone. Yep...you've had your way with Harbaugh the last couple of seasons...sort of. I mean having refs in your pocket helps. Having to face a quarterback-ish in JOK...yep you sure have had the upper hand, though nearly still nearly losing those battles. I hope Urbz and the circle of trust have their medical reports in order, it sure seems like he's run out of talent, well...at least talent he can control and it's about time he makes his next exit for a better program to take over. He's kind of like a locust really. 

11/23/2018 - 7:38pm started when I was probably…

started when I was probably 6 or 7. Have been going ever since. I was in school through the late 80's/early 90's so I lived through the upswing of UM rivalry power. My son has yet to really experience it, and I have said all this season, this is what it was like then...winning every game fairly comfortably, having a few challenges, but having OSU in our sights and ready to launch a B1G title...here's to the next ten years of MICHIGAN FOOTBALL.

11/23/2018 - 10:41am hopefully the player has the…

hopefully the player has the biggest say. It's ultimately their four/five year experience. My son is in the process right now as is my daughter. I've tried to make suggestions on exploring options, BE YOU...while one piece of me would love for both of them to end up at UM...I also know going on their own path for what fits them is better. Neither are leaning, UM has a soft spot for my son, but he has a good relationship and interest in another school. Time will tell, he's waiting to hear back from UM some time this month academically. It's honestly a touch stressful. The high school coach has zero to do with the decision and truthfully had no part in any of the direct recruitment.

11/23/2018 - 10:33am well said. It is one of…

well said. It is one of those storied rivalries for the reasons you mentioned. Because both programs have such history and typically good teams, it's reasonable to assume as one team suffers it spends the following years working to hire a good coach, build good recruits, and switch roles. I think it's on the verge of a flip of odds.

11/23/2018 - 10:29am no question this a team…

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11/23/2018 - 10:28am no question this a team…

no question this a team driven to win. The Wolverines win it Saturday.

11/22/2018 - 9:32pm "school of choice" options…

"school of choice" options have created quite a dynamic with Saline...AApioneer, AAskyline, Ypsi Lincoln, Milan, Bellville, and a few others in the area. Depending on where the talent or the opportunity is, kids shift around. I know one young man who graduated with two different varsity jackets. Heck Fred Jackson's kid was originally at AAHuron and graduate from Saline...it's the new it factor in that region.

11/21/2018 - 11:40pm I know there are a few…

I know there are a few saying oh it's not as bad as it sounds...yeah it is. Parents of players can tell some horror stories of snowballs and batteries, flaming marshmallows, emptying coolers of shit, spilling cups of urine on the UM jerseys, pretty much any foul thing you can think of has happened. It's a shit hole and many of their inbred fans are pure trash. I'm sure there are many who just love football and the rivalry but they take it to an extreme level. My teammate had a few UM shirts in his back seat, windows were busted out, shirts ripped to shreds, and a polite fuck off carved in the rear quarter panel...pass. I'll watch on TV and not deal with that infected shit pile.