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06/20/2018 - 2:10pm Kudos to you MichiganFan1984…

Kudos to you MichiganFan1984 for having the guts to swim with the sharks. I'm being totally serious. I do have to disagree with you a tad bit on what you say is ruining our society. I think there is a reason why "people can't listen and appreciate" a different opinion, and that is because the platforms on which they are presented don't allow them to do so. To start with, everything is presented as a black and white (no, not race) choice between right or wrong, hero or goat, genius or idiot. It is also presented with maximum confidence, volume, and bluster. Sprinkle in the idea that you need to react within 15 minutes of something happening and you are not allowed to change your mind and you have a recipe for disaster. Essentially it is pick a side and fight to the death. No room for fence sitters. No time to think and formulate your opinion. Certainly no time to "listen and appreciate" a different opinion. When was the last time you heard someone call into a sports talk show and say, "I see these X reasons that support your position and these Y reasons that do not support you position. I'm tending to lean towards support, but I need to think about it some more before I decide for sure." 

06/13/2018 - 4:11pm Thanks for the response. I…

Thanks for the response. I put the word similar in quotes on purpose, as I'm not down with all the finer details of either Beilein's system or a typical NBA system. And I'm not really a "hoops guy" (and do not follow NBA religiously). Your thoughts are certainly enlightening. What may be interesting to see is if Beilein is able to get some higher caliber athletes (and maybe he already does in Johns and Dejulius?) will he adjust and start playing with more pace. Kinda like how he went away from the 1-3-1 zone as he realized he had good enough athletes to play man on almost everyone.

06/13/2018 - 1:56pm Not sure if this is…

Not sure if this is something that Matt D can answer, but I'm really curious as to what the thinking is with a typical one-and-done player. I ask this, as it seems to me that the combo of Beilein's coaching, an NBA "similar" offense, and Camp Sanderson should be fairly attractive, yet so may players just end up going the Kentucky/Kansas/Duke route. Perhaps the answer is simply "bagmen". I can understand that and will not begrudge a player that goes that way, but if a player's goal is to maximize earnings then at some point you have to understand that doing so requires you to become the best player possible. All else being equal I don't see how anyone would think coach Cal / Self / K are the way to do this.   

06/08/2018 - 8:12am Happy Friday. Bang Bang. 

Happy Friday. Bang Bang. 

Did I do this correctly???


06/06/2018 - 10:23am Haven't bought a new TV in…

Haven't bought a new TV in awhile, but I recently came across an interesting article specific to 4K TVs:


May want to check it out. Basic insight here is that the human eye is not capable of seeing the extra pixels unless you have a super huge TV and sitting pretty close. 

06/04/2018 - 11:11am Clarifying Ypsi's Point

Not trying to be a jerk here . . . but I believe that you are either missing the argument Ypsituckyboy is trying to make or you forgot what you posted. Here are your words:  


Carton only measured at 5’10.5 without shoes........and that was my reluctance in granting him a fifth star in my rankings.


You specifically wrote that height is the reason for not giving him a fifth star. Ypsi is pointing out that height should not matter as much as wingspan. What you followed up with - while perfectly valid - has nothing to do with height / wingspan. So either your reluctance to give a fifth star has more to it than just height, or you need to address the height / wingspan argument.  



06/01/2018 - 6:33am Happy Friday

Big weekend ahead. Putting my 21 year old riding mower out to pasture and getting a new zero turn.  


05/25/2018 - 10:56am This list reminds me of the

This list reminds me of the lists of which collge football teams produce the most first round draft picks. The publisher of the list is trying to make a statement about which schools are "doing the best" at develping their students/players, but the reality is it's more a list of which schools are best at attracting the most talent in the first place.  

05/24/2018 - 9:08am A little yardwork, a little

A little yardwork, a little fishing, a lot of time on the pontoon with a beer in my hand.



05/24/2018 - 9:07am You mean Meijers?

You mean Meijers?

05/18/2018 - 8:46am Any occasion for a free bang

Any occasion for a free bang is fine by me.



05/15/2018 - 2:42pm Guess I should have hit

Guess I should have hit refresh :) 

05/15/2018 - 2:40pm I'm no expert (others -

I'm no expert (others - please feel free to correct any mistakes) but I know enough to be dangerous so here goes:

1. Per the NCAA playing in the USHL is fine, but spending even 1 prtactice with an OHL team makes you ineligible for good. Not sure on all the details why the NCAA feels this way, but basicaly OHL means no Collge Hockey.

2. Just like football, often times a commitment is made to lock in a sure thing. You never know who will draft you in the OHL, so even though you may want to play in that league if you get drafted by a team with a coach you don't like, a style of play you don't like, and located in some Canadian city 1,500 miles from home you may decide college is the better choice. may as well lock in your college option just to be safe. Also like football, sometimes a kid will have every intention of going one route (e.g. U of M to play for Mel) but then another team (e.g. OHL's top run team) comes along and fills your head with dillusions of grandeur and your hand with few $ and next you know the kid changes his mind.

3. I will probably defer to the experts on this one, but my sense is that there may be more overall talent in the OHL, but it is close enough that it really shouldn't be a factor. It's maybe like comparing the Big Ten to the SEC.

4. Brian was referring to the USA Hockey NTDP (National Team Development Program). It's a program run by USA Hockey where they select the top US born players and bring them to Plymouth for full time training and play. They have a 17 year old team and an 18 year old team. I believe what Brian was alluding to was that these teams have large coaching and training staffs that have daily interactions with the players, so it is much less likely for something like what I outlined in the second part of #2 above to occur.            

05/11/2018 - 8:35am I just dropped $2k on my 4

I just dropped $2k on my 4 season tickets (end zone seats). Quick back of the napkin math shows that is approiximately $55 million dollars in ticket revenue for home games. That $100k in vacation and travel value is about 0.2% of this revenue. Pretty sweet deal allright - just not for the players.    

05/11/2018 - 8:26am Happy Mother's Day

Happy Mother's Day Weekend.

Do something nice for your Mom and your wife. 

Go Blue !!!



05/10/2018 - 9:09am Food for Thought

There is an old principle referred to as Blackstone's formulation:

" . . . for the law holds it better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent party suffer"

This principle is pretty much foundational both to English and American common law.  

04/27/2018 - 9:33am Simple answer: Not all NFL GMs are good at their job

Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one. 


One additional thing to point out is that we really don't have a lot of information on what the "heart issue" is. All that we actually know is that he was held out of the NFL combine for an irregular EKG and that this was similar to testing done before he ever played at Michigan. This could have affected his draft status, but without knowing the details for sure it is hard to say for certain that it did.  

04/23/2018 - 9:41am OP's rankings remind me of

OP's rankings remind me of the "winning cures all" adage we hear in sports. While a cliche, it is a sports truism. When it comes to assistant coaches, if your unit is performing everything coming out of your mouth in a presser is poetry. If your unit is lacking everything you say is proof of how bad you suck at coaching.

Drevno actually had a lot of the qualities you find in the guys at the top of the list - energetic, quirky, etc. - however, no one cared much because of the state of the Offense and O-line specifically. When you look at Zordich, if our DBs were the weak point of our defense how do you think we'd like his brutal honesty/saltiness? We'd be taking him to task for avoiding the blame and not doing his job. And while I can't imagine ever NOT loving a Don Brown presser, if the defense were to ever fade a bit, fall behind the offense, and lead to a couple losses . . . I'm sure there would be plenty of people complaining that his "shtick is getting old".      

04/20/2018 - 9:01am Happy Friday All

Spring may be arriving in Michigan I hear.

Bout time.


04/17/2018 - 11:50am A documentary on Ufer would

A documentary on Ufer would be great, but I have always thought that you could make a feature film on him. While all of the Michigan fans and alums (at least the old ones) love him dearly, a lot of this comes from Ufer's supreme passion and love for Michigan. I think we tend to overlook just how unique and amazing he truly was. His radio broadcasts were miles ahead of anything that exists today. Not just in how entertaining they were, but how he grabbed your attention and pulled you into the game. And he did it all by himself.   

04/13/2018 - 7:41am Happy Friday All

Nothing like 2 days of rain and no football, basketball, or hockey.

This is why God invented beer.


04/12/2018 - 7:41am You're point re: "football

You're point re: "football shape" is key here when we're talking recovery. While a laproscopic procedure is definitely less invasive, its important to keep in mind that it still involves 2 or 3 incisions, and these incisions are made in your core muscles. No matter your sport, the core is vitally important as it connects to and affects numerous other muscles. And yes, even 300 lb DTs with a little cushion in the mid section have strong core muscles.    

04/10/2018 - 11:58am Aaron Donald

Aaron Donald has been to 4 straight pro bowls, was the NFL defensive player of the year in 2017, and is generally recognized as one of the best players (at any position) in the  NFL. He measured at 6' 3/4" and 285 lbs at the combine. So while I totally understand the theory that an NFL DT needs to be in the 310 - 325 range to be effective, shouldn't Aaron Donald call all this into question?  

03/28/2018 - 8:29am Based on what I have read on

Based on what I have read on this rule change it seems to be much broader than what is being discussed in this thread. Per tweet from the NFL PR Departmnet: 

Playing Rule Article 8: It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. The player may be disqualified. Applies to any player anywhere on the field. The player may be disqualified.

From this description the crown has nothing to do with it. Also, it applies to any player on the field. So a lead fullback can be flagged if he lowers his head to block a LB. Personally I am fine with the intent but a little concerned about how it will be enforced. Specifically, determining that a player "lowers his head" seems to be a judgement call with a lot of potential grey area. 

03/15/2018 - 8:30am Jumped the Shark???

03/14/2018 - 2:07pm Whoever put together that

Whoever put together that list is as clueless and incompetent as the NCAA. The first 2 items have NOTHING to do with the NCAA so they cannot be addressed – it’s up to the NBA to take care of those. The logic of the next item is mind boggling: “We don’t have faith in the organization that we created and are members of, so let’s create a NEW organization! This time it will be totally different because of  . . . reasons.” The 4th item is literally “let’s make more rules” Item 5 will “reduce the incentive for improper payments . . .” through further transparency on payments for campus visits. I honestly don’t even know how to react to this item. Was this stuck in there as some kind of joke? Pretty much by definition there is only one way to “reduce the incentive for improper payments” and that is to “allow proper payment at market value” Transparency on campus visit payments will be about as effective as hope, prayer, and rain dances (no offense to those that have had success with those). Item 6: “once people get their hands on the 263 page Michigan Nike contract there’s sure to be change!” Items 7 & 8 are would be completely meaningless measures and after pondering this for a while just a wee bit condescending. They are basically saying “if we can just get the athletes to understand things better than they’d totally be fine going to college for 4 years, not getting a dime as we negotiate billion dollar contract after billion dollar contract, and they’d respect all our rules”

03/14/2018 - 8:46am First off, kudos to the board

First off, kudos to the board for engaging in a civil, open discussion of a religious topic. Not saying I want this site to have more of it, just noting that any civil discourse is a breath of fresh air. Anyway. . . just want to state that not all Christians think that you need to "believe in Jesus" to get into Heaven (and I am assuiming that you are defining "believe" to mean more than just recognizing that there was a living person whose life is recapped in the Bible). Belief in Jesus is certainly the most common belief amongst Christians and something that is taught by the majority of Christian religious leaders, but there are plenty of Christians that recognize a path to heaven for those that do not have this same belief.  

03/13/2018 - 4:15pm Aaron Donald agree with your

Aaron Donald agrees with your assessment. But take that with a grain of salt, he's only been to 4 Pro Bowls and been the NFL defensive player of the year once.

03/09/2018 - 2:49pm My gut tells me it is still

My gut tells me it is still true. I don't know that women's high school hockey exists outside of Metro Detroit, which is not the case with water polo.


03/09/2018 - 7:30am * Sweet Caroline

Totally agree. Forever in Blue Jeans is not only a MUCH better song, but is a superior crowd sing-a-long song. 

02/28/2018 - 3:54pm Somebody needs to explain the

Somebody needs to explain the concept of an outlier to him. Miles. Not Kenpom.


02/23/2018 - 7:43am Tonight I will be watching my

Tonight I will be watching my high school junior (born in 2001) play a high school hockey game. On Sunday I will be watching my 8th grader (born in 2001) play a hockey game. Still waiting on the phone call from Mel though.

02/23/2018 - 7:24am Happy Friday

Bang early, bang often.



02/21/2018 - 9:40am Unless I am missing

Unless I am missing something, stating "how can you say Harbaugh has "consistently out game-planned ouir rivals when they keep finding ways to beats us", you are implying that a team losing means a team was out game planned. 

I by no means would argue that wins and losses are completely unrelated to game plans, but there are many other factors that play into the outcome as well and its fairly common for a team with a good game plan to lose or a team with a bad game plan win.



02/21/2018 - 8:46am So if you lose, you were "out

So if you lose, you were "out game planned" and if you win, you "out game planned". Got it. 

02/21/2018 - 7:41am Hoke Morris incident

Maybe not willing to die on this hill . . . but I thought people were over the top on the whole leaving Morris in situation. Certainly not a fireable offense like some suggested.  

02/16/2018 - 7:18am Grabbing my Trunks

Ready for the weekend.


Bang Bang



02/13/2018 - 4:49pm Are we sure there is a HUGE problem?

Lots of great thoughts regarding what needs to be fixed, but how about we spend a little more time analyzing the #'s. Pieces pop up like this all the time regarding attendance and ratings and they all have the same formula: make a single comparison, put it in a context that provides a WOW headline, throw down a bunch of meandering opinions, lace with some non-relevant facts and Voila! Here's a serious sports/business article. In this specific case, what exactly does "largest drop in 34 years" mean? A 3.2% drop in avergae per game attendance. Ceratinly not ideal, but attendance at football is not somethign that you grow each year at 10% like you're some kind of business selling a product made on an asembly line. Growing attendance essentially requires expansion of stadiums (sorry, you can't count on getting more people to the Illinois & Rutgers of the world - there will always be bottom feeders that can't draw). And while there has been some notable expansion over the last 20 plus years (Michigan, ND, Penn State, Texas A & M come to mind) there has also been additional teams added to D1 that bring the average attendance down. Overall holding steady seems like the best case scenario and guess what you find when you look at the #s? In 1983 avergae/game attendance was 42,162 and in 2017 it was 42,203. There's probably some more digging and analysis to be done on this, but after a cursory look I can't say that there's some new, huge problem that needs addressing.      

02/13/2018 - 4:06pm Exactly

And oh by the way: 

Michigan (111,589 per game) posted the six largest crowds of 2017





02/13/2018 - 2:32pm Sorry man, clicking through

Sorry man, clicking through changes nothing. I think Gucci Mane summed it up best. We get that it is different, it's just not "a completely different game" different.    

02/13/2018 - 8:27am With even more due respect, a

With even more due respect, a single quote from one person means nothing, especially coming from a player. That quote reminds me of all the MLB players and managers lecturing us on how National league baseball is "totally different" than American league baseball. It is so freakin' insufferable. I get it. There's some rules that are different. You guys need to account for these. Stop acting like doing so requires you to cross the space-time continuum.     

02/08/2018 - 10:22am What Justibro wrote is

What Justibro wrote is certainly true, but a more accurate assessemnt is that in today's world of instant analysis and hot takes there is no grey area. It is all black and white (figuratively), win or lose, hero or goat, genius or idiot. And when it comes to grading a recruiting class there is only Pass/Fail. Because we aspire to be one of the best teams, our Pass/Fail criteria is basically A's are Pass, all else is Fail. I for one would argue that in the real world there is grey area.         

02/02/2018 - 7:47am Bang Bang

Happy Friday! Great weekend ahead for me and the family. 5 hockey games over 2 days with the kids, enough time to squeeze in basketball Saturday afternoon, followed by Super Bowl Sunday.



01/31/2018 - 10:49am Yep, you were correct in you

Yep, you were correct in you initial assesment.


BTW, I remember "SLAPP" suits from an episode of LA Law. 

01/31/2018 - 7:55am Link to Story with Explanation



01/30/2018 - 8:50am Please go read the article

Please go read the article that was linked. It provides quite a bit of insight. One such insight is that the main source of information is an e-mail from the accuser sent to the Detroit News. That's how this story got started - not MSU reporting it to the media. MSU made a single boiler plate statement confirming that there is an investigation but not providing any details. 

01/29/2018 - 9:25am Re: Brenda Tracy

I added a link below to a great piece on Brenda Tracy for background. Long story short, she is a victim of campus sexual assault and now spends time as an activist. One of her main contributions is giving talks to teams - primarily football. 

Regarding her tweet, she was merely sharing her assessement that Izzo's attitude toward sexual assault is pretty poor. This isn't some game changing fact that qualifies as whistle blowing, as you alluded. Given what she is doing in her activism, if she would make her thoughts public every time she had an uncomfortable conversation with a coach, she would soon find herself not being invited to address teams and thus kill what she is trying to achieve. In this partuicluar case though, given the context of recent events at MSU and the revelations by ESPN, sharing her thoughts on Izzo will most likely not affect her work as there is a public outcry for institutions to fix things. 

01/29/2018 - 8:02am A year ago there wasn't an

A year ago there wasn't an ESPN OTL feature blasting MSU and Izzo. I'm also guessing that having a conversation with a coach who "doesn't get it" is not all that uncommon for her. Now that things have blown up at MSU and Izzo is being accused directly, I don't think Brenda Tracy's tweet is out of line.    

01/26/2018 - 12:47pm Give Brandom some credit. He

Give Brandom some credit. He at least only stated this via an e-mail to an individual. This guy does it during a freakin TV interview.  

01/26/2018 - 7:48am It's Friday

A pos bangin' ain't much, but it will have to do for now.
To all that have problems bigger than losing a hoops game or losing an assistant coach, hang in there. Your M Go family is thinking of you.