MGoPodcast 6.5: Loyal To Our Sorrowful Country

69 minutes


YOINK [Bryan Fuller]


Fire people for so many reasons.


Dan Mullen? Mike Gundy? BOB STITT. Coordinators. Swinging for the fences with no slam dunks available outside of the Harbaugh Hail Marys.


So much for Indiana in Indianapolis.


"Across 110th Street"
"There's No Home For You Here," The White Stripes
"Loyal To My Sorrowful Country," Ted Leo (Balgeary EP version)



Yostbound and Down

September 29th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^

Here's a Smiths playlist for you...


Bigmouth (Hoke) Strikes Again

Shane It Was Really Nothing

What Difference Does It Make (self-explanatory)

Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This Terrible Answer to a Presser Question Before

Panic (on the streets of Ann Arbor)

Please Please Please Let Me Get A Harbaugh to coach our team

How Soon Is (Brandon Leaving) Now?

That Hoke Isn't Funny Anymore

Barbarism Begins On The Sideline

I Started Something I Couldn't Finish (again, self-explanatory)

Paint A Vulgar Picture (in the Michigan Daily)

Ask (Somebody else to run this program)

Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (duh)

These Things Take Time (shit)


September 29th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^

Quick suggestion, any way we can get the music down to a level 8 instead of its current 11 status. The volume level to hear both of you makes it so the music is blaring and often hurtful. Otherwise, love the podcasts!


September 29th, 2014 at 3:22 PM ^

For Ace and Brian: not very relevant, but the Jeff Ireland/Dez Bryant thing during his pre-draft isn't as crazy as it Bryant made it out to be when he announced to the public that he was asked if his mom was a prostitute. I believe the conversation went something like Ireland: 'what does your father so?' Bryant: 'Oh he's a pimp'. Ireland: ' Ok, well what does you mom do?' Bryant: 'She works for my dad.' Ireland: 'Oh, is she a prostitute?'. Bryant denied he was asked about his dad, but other sources said Ireland's question was a logical follow up to the answers given by Bryant in the interview. But regardless, probably want to find a better way to ask that question.

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September 29th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^

Re: draft interviews question. I remember players I knew coming back from the combine and laughing about some really offensive questions including one guy said he was asked straight up if he was in a gang in high school and how many of his friends currently are in gangs and how many deal drugs? This was a guy who grew up fairly privileged not in the projects and played college ball at Northwestern. Now maybe it was the Dolphins asking him that too but I get the sense most teams ask crazy questions about prostitutes etc.

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September 29th, 2014 at 4:16 PM ^

Coach speculation is silly mid-season because none of the viable candidates who are currently employed elsewhere will admit to interest.  Recall Saban and Alabama?

Some people have lifelong dreams that aren't always centered around money.  Whether or not John H is interested, he grew up in AA, his dad coached in AA during John's impressionable years, and it's not beyond reason to think that coaching in AA would fulfill a lifelong dream.  One he will definitely suppress so long as he is collecting a Ravens paycheck during the season.

He may or may not be interested, but there is no point in speculating mid-season.


September 29th, 2014 at 4:12 PM ^

Let's face it  - the doom to Michigan football the last 7 years has been the simple math of hiring a coach versed on one side of the ball, who has had 4 straight misfires on the hires entrusted with the other side of the ball.  Simple.  If RR had had even a middling defense, he'd probably still be the coach.  If Hoke had even a middling offense as opposed to the worst offense by far in Division 1, he'd probably be looking at a 5th year.

So my biggest question is - why have those four hires failed so miserably?  Is it something in the water?  Shafer, Robinson, Borges and Nuss.  All four, miserable failures.

We can split hairs, say Shafer wasn't given time, and that RR suppressed the systems his D coordinators knew, and that Nuss wasn't given time, and that Hoke also suppressed his offensive coordinators by demanding predictable, and easily-neutralized manbaw, but is it really that simple?

One or two, and we'd guess coincidence.  But 4 key coordinator fails in a row?  Is it just brutal luck?

Webber's Pimp

September 29th, 2014 at 4:20 PM ^

Ace you are such an idiot. "I'm not going back to the stadium until Hoke and Brandon are out."

Let's see if you are a man of your word. You better hope Brandon also gets canned. Otherwise you may not see a live game at the stadium for a long long timr. Way to get behind the program my friend...

Unless of course you are full of crap.


September 29th, 2014 at 8:21 PM ^

Notably, I'm not Brian, who said, "Until Brandon and Hoke are out, that's my plan. I'm not going to the Maryland game, and you* shouldn't either."

*Meaning everyone, not me, since he said earlier in the podcast that I still had to go games because that's kinda my job.

Maybe next time don't use quotes.


September 29th, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^

Is Narduzzi even remotely an option?  Not trolling, I'm genuinely serious.  He's built a defense at State that's everything we once were.  I feel like he could do it.  Question is if we would ever risk testing the waters/if he would turn his back on Dantonio.

EDIT: just got to the end of the podcast

Class of 1817

September 29th, 2014 at 5:11 PM ^

always loved the possibility of Mike Gundy. He was my hope before the Hoke hire, even though there weren't really any signs pointing in that direction.

Guy seems like a hardass who loves the game and can orchestrate a squad at a high level.


September 29th, 2014 at 5:47 PM ^

Unless I missed it, I'm quite surprised that Paul Chryst's name didn't come up during the coaching replacement debate. Now obviously this is a poor week for that name to come up considering what happened Saturday against Akron, but he seems just as viable as the Randy Edsall's of the world.