Would You Rather Beat MSU or OSU This Season?

Submitted by OaklandInPlay on July 9th, 2015 at 8:50 AM

Being that this is the first season under the Harbaugh regime, it would wise to temper our expectations. However, it's pretty safe money that we won't lose both games at home with Rudock under center. Assuming we beat at least one them, which one do you prefer? OSU or MSU?


Red is Blue

July 9th, 2015 at 9:41 AM ^

This implies the person to which you were responded is much less intelligent than average as the betting lines are set by the average money being spent not some super insightful guru.


July 9th, 2015 at 12:31 PM ^

1.  As Timmay stated, lines move based on betting patterns.  However, there is always an opening line, established by people who are paid to know what they are doing.

2.  The comment was more so meant to be a dig at the person I was replying to, who was trolling, and whose comment is now deleted.  That comment basically said that this board is the only place where Michigan would be put in the same sentence as MSU and OSU.

Brian Griese

July 9th, 2015 at 8:53 AM ^

but he did beat OSU who was the defending National Champion and was going to win another one had they beat us.  I'll take that same scenario if we can only beat one this year. 


July 9th, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^

So did Mo. So did Lloyd. (also Rodriguez and Hoke lulz).

It's rather unusual for a first year head coach to beat Sparty for whatever reason, but it's also unusual for a first year head coach to lose to OSU.  

That said, I think beating OSU would say a lot more about the direction of the program than beating MSU but losing to OSU.


July 9th, 2015 at 10:06 AM ^

It is bizarre how that worked out for Bo, Mo, Lloyd and Hoke. (I'm not including RichRod because we couldn't beat anybody in 2008.)

But to be fair, Moeller and Carr got screwed in their first games against MSU.

With Moeller, we had Desmond getting mugged on the two point conversion, the officials apologizing the next day for f*cking that up.

In Carr's first game against Sparty, MSU had the ball on their final drive trailing us by 4. They were forced to try and convert a 4th down to keep the drive alive. They threw a short pass to the sideline that was clearly caught a yard and half short of the marker but the ref decided to move the chains anyway. Screw job.

For Harbaugh's first season, we've got both rivalry games at home, which is something that hasn't happened since Bump Elliot was our coach. It kind of adds a whole new feel but I wish we could go back to the old format of having at least one at home and one on the road.


July 9th, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^

It may not be so bizarre when you consider that Bo, Lloyd, and Hoke faced off against MSU on the road and got the Buckeyes at home in each of their first seasons as head coach.  Moeller was the only one who managed to beat OSU on the road in his first year; and we have already discussed the screw job that lead to us losing to MSU at home in 1990.


July 9th, 2015 at 8:56 AM ^

Are you a ][\/][ fan?
MSU is big, especially with in-state recruiting.


July 9th, 2015 at 8:57 AM ^

I deal with waaaaaay too many OSU fans here on the border.  The thing is that I hear about The Game for 6 months or more.  People cannot wait to come in and get their teeth cleaned wearing their OSU garb and say, "How about that National Championship game?  You had to be rooting for the Big Ten right?"  Ugh. Make it stop.


July 9th, 2015 at 8:57 AM ^

That is a tough call. I'm sick and tired of Sparty's dominance over us lately and it would be nice to take them down. But I am going to take OSU. With the way Urban has built up OSU and got that program to where they are now, I would say a victory over them would be more important to me. Defending National Champs and recruiting at a high level, that would just be a great win in Harbaugh's first year and definitely give us some momentum going into the bowl game and next season.

Perkis-Size Me

July 9th, 2015 at 8:58 AM ^

OSU. Always and forever. Sure I'm tempted to pick MSU because we need to get those hoodlums back under control, but OSU is the #1 rival. They are who we ultimately compare ourselves too.

OSU is the top dog right now, and I don't really feel like we can say Michigan is back until we take down a quality OSU team. Beating MSU is great, but I will more than happily deal with the sting of losing to them if it means watching Urban Meyer and Co. make the long drive one to Columbus with their tails between their legs, knowing we ruined their perfect season and repeat national title hopes.

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July 9th, 2015 at 11:42 AM ^

There is a realistic chance UM beats an undefeated OSU, yet OSU still goes on to win the conference (having the tie-break over MSU/PSU) and make the playoffs (as a one loss conference champion, defending National Champion with probable quality wins over Va. Tech/MSU/PSU/B1G West Champion), and wins the national title again (because why not, it's my hypothetical?). That would certainly be an interesting season.


July 9th, 2015 at 8:59 AM ^

Both. Hehe bet I'm the only one who thought of that little trick answer. Been keeping that in my back pocket awhile.

Honestly, OSU. Both because that's the more important game, and this will be the first year I attend.


July 9th, 2015 at 9:07 AM ^

new college football landscape, what makes the OSU game more "important" than the State game.  I am well aware of the historical significance of the rivalry and what The Game is all about, but I think that the idea that "schedules can go out the window" when these teams play died with the BCS and now even more so with the playoff.  I think if anything, the State game has to be considered more important because it is played first and any and every loss means the same thing in terms of BIG championship game and playoff implications.


July 9th, 2015 at 9:24 AM ^

Perception. Beating MSU would harm them more than it would help us. Beating OSU would create a national dialogue. Harbaugh beats Meyer. Michigan defeats national champs. Guess who's back?


July 9th, 2015 at 9:02 AM ^

"safe money"? Michigan is a preseason dog in both. Go put some money down if you are that confident. Personally, I'll stay as far away from that bet as possible. I hope we win. I think that we can.... but there is no question that we should be seen as underdogs at this point in time.


July 9th, 2015 at 9:18 AM ^

Sigh. You're right, sadly. Rudock, a guy we didn't even have on the roster 6 months ago can win the starting job at Michigan but would squarely be OSUs 4th string. Just thinking that makes my brain hurt.

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