August 14th, 2012 at 7:35 PM ^
Dammit.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:36 PM ^
What a bad break for Chris. Get well soon!!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:37 PM ^
That sucks for Wormley. Had a good chance to get some reps this year and just generally get coached up.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:38 PM ^
Let's hope this is the only news of this kind this year.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:23 PM ^
This
August 14th, 2012 at 7:38 PM ^
Really thought that kid was gonna contribute some this year too
August 14th, 2012 at 7:39 PM ^
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! He looked enourmous at the media day. Thought he'd for sure contribute this year. Hoping for a full and speedy recovery for him.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:39 PM ^
If it is going to happen, this was the right time for it - freshman year before burning a redshirt. Get surgery and rehab it properly and the knee will be stronger than before the injury.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:29 PM ^
Not to poop in the punchbowl, but does a surgicaly repaired and rehabed ligament really come back stronger than before? I know some people do, but that seems to be the rare exception, no?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:42 PM ^
You see it all the time with baseball pitchers after Tommy John surgery - these guys come back throwing harder than pre-surgery. The same is generally accepted to be true for ACL surgeries, partricularly because the Patellar Tendon which is used to replace the torn ACL is stronger in and of itself. This is particularly true for athletes that are able to maintain a strict rehab regimen that non-athletes may not have the time/energy for.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:04 PM ^
diminishes their strength and stiffness at least early on, if not always. This is not to say that ACL reconstruction is not effective; clearly many if not most recover. Not all are able to return to 100% pre injury status however.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:31 PM ^
But the rehab really focuses on strengthening the muscles around the knee to help support the ligament. Muscles that kids normally haven't worked on. If you're not smart and start doing stuff too soon you mess it up (like me) and get to do it all over again. I'd be willing to bet he's as good as ever when he gets back.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:41 PM ^
Rob Henry, Purdue QB, also does not necessarily agree with that.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:48 PM ^
August 14th, 2012 at 10:22 PM ^
won't be better than non-injury, but can still be fine.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:22 PM ^
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August 15th, 2012 at 8:49 AM ^
but I'm glad a dr. finally set this guy straight. Just because someone had a surgery or read about baseball players having a surgery doesn't make them an expert on the surgery. Especially when the surgeries are on two completely different parts of the body.
This is what makes the internet such an unreliable source of information at times. A poster who chimes in on a subject and pretends to know what he is talking about and speaks with authority, only to be corrected by a real physician (and judging by the nature of the post I would almost think an orthopod).
Anyway, thanks again for providing some real insight on the issue.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:05 PM ^
In terms of Tommy John, the reason they usually throw harder is that they remove the obstruction in the elbow, essentially allowing them to pitch at their top velocity. They don't actually gain velocity with the surgery in and of itself. This is from Wikipedia...
Misconceptions
In some cases baseball pitchers throw harder after the procedure than they did beforehand. As a result, orthopedic surgeons have reported that increasing numbers of parents are coming to them and asking them to perform the procedure on their un-injured sons in the hope that this will increase their performance. However, many people — including Dr. Frank Jobe, the doctor who invented the procedure — believe most post-surgical increases in performance are generally due to two factors. The first is pitchers' increased attention to conditioning. The second is that in many cases it can take several years for the UCL to deteriorate. Over these years the pitcher's velocity will gradually decrease. As a result, it is likely that the procedure simply allows the pitcher to throw at the velocity he could before his UCL started to degrade.[8]
August 14th, 2012 at 9:28 PM ^
August 14th, 2012 at 10:00 PM ^
Actually, you said that the surgery could make the ligament stronger. No factual evidence suggests this and your argument of pitchers throwing harder post surgery as your example is inherently wrong.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:17 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 12:39 PM ^
you got caught trying to play Dr, just give it up. You prbably read an SI article on Tommy John surgery and took every word as gospel. Not only that, you assumed that it would correlate with any other joint/ligament injury in the body. Just give it a rest...you were wrong in almost everything you said.
Plus, your comment about semantics is absurd. You clearly stated in your original post that the joint would be stronger than "before" the injury, not prior to the surgery when it was already damaged. Now you're trying to change your orignal position because you've been told it's wrong. Just admit you know nothing about the anatomy/physiology of the human body and pick a fight regarding a subject you know something about. Clearly this isn't that subject.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:46 PM ^
I'm not medical expert but from my experience I would guess if properly rehabed the chance of him tearing another ACL could be far less than before. I've had knee surgery before and after going through physical therapy I was able to develop my legs enough to where my knee felt more stable when playing sports than before the injur. That said, I do have friends who after surgery say their knee never fully recovered but they also don't excersise their legs very often FWIW.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:09 PM ^
Dude just torn his ACL for the third time since joining the Washington Huskies. Twice in the left knee, once in the right.
But as for Wormley, I would say his odds of having his knee be the same as before are probably pretty good since he's an athlete. But I'd say its far from a given.
August 15th, 2012 at 8:54 AM ^
One of my favorite players back in the day and had multiple tears.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:25 PM ^
I suppose if there's any silver lining, it's that he can redshirt and, like I've seen noted here already, study the game.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:39 PM ^
I tore my ACL and meniscus in my left knee back in April and am currently at 9 weeks post op. You guys are giving some really good info and scaring the shit out of me at the same time.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:39 PM ^
Well shit. I really hope he bounces back from this. He has a really high ceiling, and I would love to see him reach it. I was also half expecting him to contribute this season, so that sucks for depth.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:39 PM ^
Isn't there some multi-drug cocktail or some laser nanobots or something to fix this?
C'mon science get off your ass!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:49 PM ^
Find some of this stuff
August 15th, 2012 at 8:58 AM ^
A Xenomorph Knees R' Us®
August 14th, 2012 at 7:40 PM ^
This is bad. Please be good Keith Heitzman. Also, please start eating Tom Strobel.
EDIT: I mean I want Strobel to start eating, not that I want Heitzman to eat Strobel. Just to clear that up.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:44 PM ^
What, all of a sudden you are anti-cannibalism?
Wouldn't a Heitzman-Strobel hybrid be pretty good?
August 14th, 2012 at 7:49 PM ^
That's not a bad point, but that kind of puts all of our eggs in one basket. What if Strobzman tears his ACL? Then it's like losing two guys at once.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:51 PM ^
I think the better question is what would this do to our scholarship situation? Would Strobzman count as only one scholarship or two?
August 15th, 2012 at 5:20 PM ^
Posts like this make me look crazy, when people look over at me and see my laughing to myself.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:50 PM ^
Teith Strobzman. I like.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:45 PM ^
I dunno...maybe Heitzman eats Strobel and then some sort of Captain Planet powers combining thing happens...and then profit?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:21 PM ^
Did you discover that mysterious second step leading to profit?
Nobel Prize this man!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:49 PM ^
If we have zombies playing on defense, I am sure that Mattison will find a way to use them without having to use other recuits as feed.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:51 PM ^
---new MGoCatchphrase?
August 15th, 2012 at 6:16 AM ^
i thought he was being catastrophic
August 15th, 2012 at 3:45 AM ^
This is the exact reason we stress correct grammar on this board. "Start eating, Tom Strobel" =/= "Start eating Tom Strobel" to seriously disastrous results.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:40 PM ^
At least the rest of the d-line and the starters are still in tact (knocks on wood repeatedly)
August 14th, 2012 at 8:37 PM ^
You have to learn to be more tactful than that!