Win out and in

Submitted by Catchafire on November 13th, 2016 at 7:31 AM
The stars did not align for us last night and we losses. A million things could have happened differently and we win. Here is the thing: Beat Indiana!



November 13th, 2016 at 7:41 AM ^

We be very telling to see how the team responds next week. Hopefully this game was just a fluke and not a trend. When Michigan was up 10 one more score fg or td, I believe would have ended the game.

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November 13th, 2016 at 7:55 AM ^

I was very disappointed in the way the team came out in the second half. It was reminiscent of a Hoke led team. No fight or response whatsoever in the second half, which concerns me for Indiana. We are at home and have a week of preparation but I expected a lot more from a Harbaugh led team. I really hope to see a team playing with a lot more fight next Saturday.

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The Fan in Fargo

November 13th, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^

Well I'll tell you what I see. On offense I see a bunch of guys who are hard workers with a ton of heart and are well coached. They have improved a ton over the last two years but they still don't have that swag and bad ass mentality to go anywhere in any situation and smack teams around. To make the big plays, shut that crazy crowd up and take the game. They had their chances to sneak out of their with a win too but didn't execute. They got punked lastnight and didn't have a response. I've been on teams where there are a few guys who just cant handle the situation and they let up. That trickles all the way down and eventually at the end of the game, most others have followed suit. I did see Peppers trying to get guys fired up and the looks on their faces was pathetic. They gave up. They didn't keep punching when the fight was in the balance. Not going to win a title like that. Have to keep the poise/focus and not lose momentum. Limit mistakes and don't beat yourselves. Have to beat Ohio fucking shit State now. No way around it. Gotta go in their fired up beyond all hell and punch them right in the jaw and break it. Go Blue!


November 13th, 2016 at 8:18 AM ^

What? This staff is light years ahead of anything we have seen since Bo. I have said this over and over again. Harbaugh has dressed up the pretty woman in designer clothes for two years by scheming to the teams strengths and disguising their weaknesses. Last night the pretty woman exposed for the call girl she always was. Michigan has the best staff and is in par with nana and Ohio State. If any of you have ever played, or coached you can see that Michigans scheme on offense is throw to set up the run and that requires a rhythm. Once the rhythm gets going the execution of draw plays and other run plays on 2nd and short or medium open up. But when Iowa is able to get you in 2nd and 3rd and long it takes away the rhythm. Remember this game was in the road against a team that lives to play ugly and they got us into an ugly fight. Have you ever seen two uglies bumping in the night? I'm sure many of you have in the crevice of you parents basements, but have you ever seen it live? You watched it live last night and this was not the game Michigan was used to seeing. The silver lining in his that we now have film of the bumping uglies and it was nasty with the lights on. Harbaugh will direct the living shit out of this film and this teams response next will will be the answer.

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November 13th, 2016 at 11:08 AM ^

I didn't understand why we were having Speight throw deep balls instead of short guaranteed completions. I mean of course, had he made them I would be sitting here and applauding it, but to consistently attack downfield when it wasn't working didn't make sense to me


November 13th, 2016 at 8:21 AM ^

Yup. This staff sucks. We should totally Fire Harbaugh and whole staff. Time for a change. This staff just doesn't have what it takes to compete.


Serious, I know that we are all upset about the loss, but it is one game. Teams lose, even great teams. And even great coaching staffs lose. I get some of the criticism of the coaching, but would you feel the same if Speight had connected on 1-2 of his long throws for a few TD? The team just came out flat and had a clunker of a game. The great Urban Meyer lost to PSU. It happens. Hell, Bill Belichick lost TWO Super Bowls to interior teams. Maybe the Pats should have fired him too?

People need to R-E-L-A-X.


November 13th, 2016 at 7:44 AM ^

The thing is, this defense is very capable of shutting down anyone, anywhere. That's the first element of winning at Ohio State that most teams don't have.

People climbing the walls last night about a supposed blowout against Michigan down there need to chill.

I wasn't surprised Iowa ran the ball well last night. A. At home. B. It's what that program has always done well. C. It's the only play they had was to keep running. The passing game was hopeless.

It shouldn't have mattered. 200 yards total with a couple turnovers and safety is Brady Hoke team level offense. You will not win many road games doing that. 


November 13th, 2016 at 8:14 AM ^

No, they aren't. This defense has shown that they have major issues in run defense.

It finally cost them last night. How in the world they allowed a one-dimensional Iowa team to run in them I have no idea. They have far from shown that they can shut down mediocre rush offenses much less "anyone, anywhere".

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November 13th, 2016 at 8:40 AM ^

Well if you read my post, it says "capable of doing". I am sure two very productive run offenses in Wisconsin and Penn State would agree we're capable. There are elements that need cleaning up. But there are probably 4 current NFL draftable players on that Dline. Given that and the history of dominating against quality teams, they are capable.

I've seen enough to say they can, even against a great rushing team.

You've seen enough to ignore the evidence in the good performances and focus on the lackluster ones.

If we knew they could do it every time, we could simply not bother playing the games and let a computer model decide it all.

No fun there.


November 13th, 2016 at 9:08 AM ^

They do not cover the edge worth a damn, then they get gashed up the middle. They have not adjusted to coverage of the RB out of the backfield, unless we are saving stuff for osu, unfortunately they are going to score 40 plus again. We are two years away from winning a title, this is a good team, no doubt, but a lot will have to go in our way to win at Columbus

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November 13th, 2016 at 9:17 AM ^

Maybe. Maybe not.

Let's see how the matchups play out.

A lot of what were dealing with today is fans overemphasizing the negatives after a loss.  Overreaction Sunday. Never been a lost game in the history of sports where there weren't issues come up for the losing team.

Point is, we have the players to very well down there against their offense and we have the right coach scheme wise. 

See how it plays out.


November 13th, 2016 at 9:19 AM ^

It's going to be fine my man (SalvatoreQuattro) our rush defense is absolutely the real deal. I am not going to sit here and go over the facts and figures. Especially when people alot smarter than me already have and gave UM their blessing as one of the best rushing defenses in the country, if not, THE best. I understand your frustration but the D had nothing what so ever to do with the loss. When a defense holds a team to 14 points regardless of how they got them, they have done their job even if the game is at home much less on the road  

Your offense on the other hand has let the defense down and did not show up (AGAIN) in the second half. This is my concern, albeit small but it is alarming some what when the offense in the last three straight games has had a poor showing in the second half. I am sure the coaches are all over that and want to get some results even if they start hurting regular players feelings in the film room. My guess is, it's the O-line, Because it is just not very deep and that would mean that this will continue. This is where the coaches earn their money. I say we all take a deep breath, step back, and see what is going to change if anything.


November 13th, 2016 at 7:46 AM ^

Yep. That has not changed at all. If we were going to drop a game, let it be IOWA. I know we all are going to over-analyze why we can't beat OSU. The game is played on the field. IOWA showed us that. I am sure I will be nervous but I am confident that our team will be prepared for the next two games. OSU lost a game and they didn't fall apart. Let us shoe the buckeyes what we are made of. Go Blue!


November 13th, 2016 at 7:46 AM ^

It is a fluke. Top teams ranked 2, 3, and 4 went down in similar fashion as 1985.

The great thing is that this changes nothing that we did not have to do before. It's really a blessing in disguise.

Maybe we can refocus on the holes and personnel. Better we have this discussion now than later.


November 13th, 2016 at 8:14 AM ^

One thing has changed . . . when we lost in 1985 as a #2, our shot at a National Championship was gone.  It was all based on polls, and Bo's teams were not the kind of teams that were going to win a beauty contest.

Now we still have a shot.  Win out and we are in.

So that's progress.


Perkis-Size Me

November 13th, 2016 at 7:49 AM ^

I hoping this team refocuses in time for the OSU game. The defense did its part last night, but if the OL can't hold up against a lowly Iowa team, that absolutely scares me when it goes back on the road against a lethal OSU defense.

Their DL has to be licking its chops after what they saw last night.

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Goggles Paisano

November 13th, 2016 at 7:49 AM ^

After reading the comments in Ace's gamer you would think we are back in the Hoke era.  My preseason prediction was 11-1 with the loss coming at Iowa.  We are right on pace.  This loss will help this team re-focus and be ready for the last two games.  Just a bad day for too many players last night in a tough environment vs. a team that played their asses off.  It happens.

We likely will still be ranked in the top 4 this week and it of course comes down to the Game. Win and in and lose and PSU is in - funny how this will work out.  

This is still a great Michigan team regardless of what some of you ledge-dwellers post in other threads.


November 13th, 2016 at 8:19 AM ^

Disagree. This is good UM squad, but ultimately a limited squad.

They'll lose by two scores vs OSU and play in a second tier bowl.

UM is still lacking too much at the QB spot, has a issues consistently squashing the rush, and the OL has some significant flaws.

Michigan is two years of talent procurement and development away from being a legit contender.Too much Hoke still in them.

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Pepto Bismol

November 13th, 2016 at 8:12 AM ^

I was just scanning the comments in the gamer and the snowflake threads - this place is pathetic.

There have only been TWO undefeated teams in the past 5 years - FSU with Jameis Winston and OSU when they were on probation and didn't Bowl.

1 loss is almost expected. Everybody trips up somewhere. This forum needs to change its collective diaper and get back on the bus.


November 13th, 2016 at 11:00 AM ^

1) you're being fucking ridiculous.

2) if Penn State loses to MSU, or if Penn State loses to Wisconsin in the BTTT, we're going to the Rose Bowl at 10-2, so hush.

(Wisconsin makes the playoff if they win the Big Ten, and OSU will make it now that Washington lost if they win out; 10-2 Michigan is in the Rose Bowl over a 10-3 PSU team we beat, every single time). 


November 13th, 2016 at 8:28 AM ^

Dude, come on, there is absolutely no way we beat OSU. This was the first real road test and they shit the bed like an obese guy who just ate 5 lbs of Taco Bell and now has explosive-spicy diarrhea, against a 5-4 Iowa team that got lit up by Penn St. last week. And you think they'll win in Columbus against the most talented team in the conference and Urban?? My dude, pass me the bowl for what you're smoking because that has to be some good stuff!

Pepto Bismol

November 13th, 2016 at 8:46 AM ^

Look at ANY team in college football and they've also had a bad game. It happens, and it can happen to OSU in two weeks (they've had MULTIPLE stinkers like yesterday). You people act like this is the 1st year you've ever watched college football. Michigan has dropped nuclear bombs on 9 opponents and stumbled against the 10th. It happens. Cry a fucking river. I'm not predicting a win in Columbus, but it is exactly, 100%, just as likely to happen today as it was yesterday (assuming Speight's okay). People definitively writing it off are either 10 years old or emotionally unstable.


November 13th, 2016 at 10:36 AM ^

If I could upvote you ten times I would.  

Every game is different. The match-ups are different. These aren't machines. They are 20 year olds playing on the road at night against a program where the coach has built a consistent winner over nearly fifteen years.

Every team has a down game or two in a college football season. I will buy the argument that the overall talent isn't dominant enough yet to overcome bad games like last night.

But there is enough here to beat OSU this season. No question.

We know this because we saw Michigan dominate basically every game this season and an inferior Penn State beat that OSU team.

The notion we can't win down there strikes me as fans overreacting and behaving as crybabies over a one point loss.