991GT3

November 26th, 2017 at 8:01 PM ^

will surprise many. Has nothing to do with his past performance as a coach. The reason is there is some indication that while an assistant at PSU he allegedly told another coach of the Sandusky problems and failed to report him. Shiano denies knowing anything about it.

God

November 26th, 2017 at 5:57 PM ^

That means either McCaffrey, Peters, or Milton will hopefully be the QB for the next few years. Whoever wins the job in the spring.

BoCanHam15

November 26th, 2017 at 8:38 PM ^

At Michigan. Peters is good and I’ve seen McCaffery. We just saw a Raw QB play for another QB at our hated rivals during the third and fourth quarters in, “The Game!” Trust me I️ know what Raw looks like at Michigan and that means he’ll be one hellava tight end or receiver! Until we get a Raw QB at Michigan coached up we will be in the same predicament we were in this year a QB with a lower football I️.Q. than a high school QB. Throwing into triple coverage for no )&)?!&&& reason! Get over yourself and find a new word!

BoCanHam15

November 26th, 2017 at 8:51 PM ^

Smart person? Do you gauge smart? You can find another team you idiot I️ was raised in AA and went to school there and have been a fan since birth. Lastly I️ am a donor and a season ticket owner. Plus I️ have nothing to prove to you or anyone else as a fan or a human being! Trust me I️ know what I’m talking about.

BoCanHam15

November 26th, 2017 at 8:55 PM ^

Tell me why Milton is considered to be so Raw? Lastly, there have already been posters on here that have already, delegated him to receiver. And trust me you don’t want to attempt to have this conversation without your toolbox. So JACK, get your tool belt and bring it on!

pescadero

November 27th, 2017 at 8:33 AM ^

"Tell me why Milton is considered to be so Raw?"

 

His passing numbers in HS are almost identical to those of Denard Robinson in HS.

 

Difference is - he doesn't have the rushing yards of Denard Robinson, or the 4.3 speed (he was a 4.8 at the Nike Combine).

 

So... he's a big, slow, pro style QB... who isn't very accurate.

Real strong arm, but inaccurate. Basically like Shane Morris coming out of HS, but less accurate and with a slower 40 time.

DairyQueen

November 26th, 2017 at 10:38 PM ^

Garnder is an NFL combine official 6'4". Angles are everything, just ask any photographer, but from this photo (barring some crazy shoe soles on Milton or flats on Gardner) Milton looks to be at LEAST 6'6", and also looks to have some LONG arms.

Perfect for passing from the pocket!

Lakeyale13

November 26th, 2017 at 8:25 PM ^

Speight leaving has to be a good sign. He was clearly the best QB we had, and yet the coaching staff said "thank you, but we won't be giving you another year". They must be big believers in McCaffrey and Peters. Speight would have been a perfect backup. QB situation must be looking bright next year.

tlh908

November 26th, 2017 at 6:01 PM ^

He should have looked at jok, jok had a chance to display his skills in front of a large audience even as a backup. Speight won't find a bigger stage.

bamf16

November 26th, 2017 at 6:45 PM ^

Harbaugh's track record with QBs is good enough for me to confidently conclude that JOK's shortcomings as a QB fall squarely on him and are not indicative of the coaching he received.

 

Wilton Speight was a middling 3 star QB who many UM fans used to discredit the recruiting abilities of Hoke and Borges; this situation was supposed to prove that UM would never win with those guys because they could never lure the top talent at the most important position on the field.

 

Look what Harbaugh did for him. Jake Rudock went from backup in Iowa to an NFL roster (though to be fair, CJ Beathard is in the league too). And look what Speight became in his first year as a starter. Granted, his two interceptions were a bigger part of the loss than the officiating, but if this helps, Wilton Speight in his first year as a starter came one horrifically officiated game away from an appearance in the B1G Championship game and possibly the college football playoff. 

 

It's O'Korn, not Harbaugh.

NateVolk

November 26th, 2017 at 8:12 PM ^

The people who claim Rudock was already a good QB before he came to Michigan all have the same angle they are playing. Harbaugh didn't help him improve and Harbaugh is overrated. 

And the whole thing is just hyperbole because they can't accept that 1. Peters was still not ready in late September. 2. Jim had no interest in seeing him debut in a night game in State College if the two were basically on equal footing. 3. O'Korn gets into games, nerves over take him and for whatever reason, he can't execute simple throws to open guys. Or see them in the first place.  No matter how well he is coached. 4. There aren't all these great plan B options floating around and available as transfers who would have been any better than O'Korn as a back-up. 

 

lilpenny1316

November 26th, 2017 at 8:46 PM ^

...wear green and white.  They also say that anybody could've coached Andrew Luck in college and it was the 49ers defense that got them to the Super Bowl.

The fact is that "Iowa" Rudock was solid, not spectacular and never pushed the ball downfield.  He came here and, after some hiccups against Utah, became a threat in the downfield passing game.

Rudock was an NFL draft pick because of Jim Harbaugh.  If Wilton Speight can be 100% healthy and play himself onto an NFL roster, it will again be becaue of Jim Harbaugh.

lilpenny1316

November 26th, 2017 at 8:51 PM ^

I thought it was either him or Grant Perry.  Either way, Hoke butchered the entire QB position.  He was gifted Denard and Gardner and allowed Borges/Nussmeier to screw that up. 

This is a serious #hottake, but if Hoke would've embraced the spread version of MANBALL (ie. the OSU offense), Denard and Gardner could've earned Hoke a contract extension.

Wolfman

November 26th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^

I recall when we were left with one, and half the fan base wanted him gone from the moment he took over. He seemed to be here for about 10 years but there were good times and bad times with Big John and if only once, he was the only Carr qb to beat OSU. And he did go to the league so if you think its bad, remember its probably not as bad as you think. Much like life really. 

freelion

November 26th, 2017 at 6:36 PM ^

All you people saying Speight was the clear #1 were blind to Pep Hamilton's incompetence. You assumed Speight was #1 and Peters was #3 for performance reasons but it was in fact a sham perpetrated by Hamilton's lunacy. Harbaugh had to take over playcalling and QB coaching in recent weeks to try to salvage the season but it was too late. We will be more than fine without Speight next year. Speight would not and should not see the field again at Michigan except for a farewell senior moment.

Mgoriz

November 26th, 2017 at 7:46 PM ^

I'll reserve judgements on Pep like incompetent and lunacy. WR's were complicated this season, and we burned thru 3 starting QB's. I'd be game to see what he can do with some returning starters at both positions as well as an improved OL. Speight had his issues, but he was there in 2016 when we needed him and had a pretty good season for his first year starting, exceptions being Iowa and OSU.