Will there be more M or MSU fans at the Palace? Will you boo MSU if you go?

Submitted by Blue boy johnson on March 18th, 2013 at 6:02 PM

This is going to be strange with both M and MSU at the Palace.

I don't know what to expect with Michigan and Michigan State playing in the same venue, in their home state.

I'm somewhat fearful of MSU fans outnumbering M fans and making the Palace a hostile environment for the Michigan basketball team

Maybe some hockey fans have some insight with the college hockey games at the Joe featuring M and MSU.

As for me, I don't think I would boo the Spartans, but I definitely would be happy to see them lose



March 18th, 2013 at 6:43 PM ^

This and every year we should be all-in for our conference peers.  During the tournament, during the bowl season, even during congressional hearings for research dollars.

They're like your step-siblings.  Some you like, some you don't, but in a weird way, they're all family.

Root for all our B1G peers - and when their not playing root purely for upsets.  Brackets be damned.


March 18th, 2013 at 8:07 PM ^

Your scenario basically puts Michigan in Kentucky's shoes - a respected team in a conference that is widely accepted as terrible. 

But if the B1G all fails, it is much more likely that Michigan would be viewed more like  Oregon - a succesful yet overwhelmingly disrespected team in a conference that is widely accepted as terrible.  We need the conference to be respected to enhance the number of bids the conference recieves and the quality of the seeding into the future, including in some years where Michigan may find itself on the bubble. 



March 18th, 2013 at 8:44 PM ^

Did you even read my comment?  If you did, do you seriously think Michigan's recent track record is more similar to Kentucky than Oregon? 

My point, condensed, is that traditional powerhouses like Kentucky can get away with playing in terrible conferences because they will garner respect regardless of league strength.  Hell, Kentucky was "on the bubble" despite a terrible year in a terrible conference only because they were Kentucky. 

Teams without much recent sucess will not get that same benefit of the doubt.  Oregon won the PAC12 tourney, finished 2nd in the PAC12 regular season, and is a 12 seed in the midwest.  Is this the scenario you want to see play out for Michigan in the future should the conference lay an egg in the tourney?


March 18th, 2013 at 9:35 PM ^

I'm not sure you can ask others if they read your comment or not when you can't even do the same. From Readyourguard:

If they all lost in the first round while we won it all, would I care what others think about our conference? Hell no.

In these hypothetical scenarios, UM will get its respect because we're winning it all and making deep tourney runs


March 18th, 2013 at 9:42 PM ^

"I simply do not wish success for the other teams in the conference. I would please me of they all lost in the first round." """"f

Convenient for you to ignore the bulk of Read Your Guard's comment which just wishes failure upon the B1G regardless of what Michigan does. 



March 18th, 2013 at 6:09 PM ^

but this early in the tournament, I wouldn't say they will stick around to hinder us.  If we happen to go farther then maybe, but I don't think so for the first weekend.  

MSU is a basketball school first. 

I wouldn't boo the Spartans in general.  If they made a Sparty of themselves and played like thugs (couldn't happen, right?) I would probably partake in joining the opposition's boos.  


March 18th, 2013 at 6:45 PM ^

sparty will be at the Post by 5pm.  We have nothing to worry about.  Besides they cant afford the all session pass anyway.  We are in session 2 and they are in session 1.  I cant imagine they would stay even if they has an all sessions pass.

I will be there Saturday and I will not stoop to sparty's level and boo any young athlete trying his/her best to represent their school.  These are students regardless of the color of their uniform.

I hope sparty makes an ass out of themselves.  I will take photos and post them.


March 18th, 2013 at 9:43 PM ^

Perhaps there will be more Michigan fans there...

A) Different sessions so many MSU fans will be heading home.

B) Tickets for the UofM game start at $75 versus MSU tickets starting at $44.  The UofM ticket average price are going for more than double the average asking price of MSU tickets...  The other game is not a big opponent - so it appears as if there is greater demand for UofM and hence most likely more UofM fans.  Or perhaps their Dantonio-like hatred for us is causing them to attend our game to boo us and drive the tickets up!  (Prices per StubHub)


March 19th, 2013 at 8:31 AM ^

Or perhaps their Dantonio-like hatred for us is causing them to attend our game to boo us and drive the tickets up!

OK, now that's a little paranoid. The price differential is easily explained when you consider the salary scales in both the food service and custodial science industries that attract most Spartan graduates.

Wolverine Devotee

March 18th, 2013 at 6:14 PM ^

Don't they boot you out after session 1 when sparty plays?

Sorry, I'm not paying to see state. I'm paying for the full strip to watch a real basketball team. Hopefully Michigan makes it to the Third Round and I can haul ass from the JLA for hockey to Aubie for basketball.


March 18th, 2013 at 6:17 PM ^

My scene. I could see sparty booing. Actually, I wouldn't root against since I don't watch sparty sports. I know they like to follow UM. That is a sparty ON move.


March 18th, 2013 at 6:17 PM ^

why care? why? why.

there is zero reason except if UM plays MSU that any sane Michigan fan should care, much less have an emotional reaction amounting to "booing," about Michigan State. none. positive or nothing. pettiness like talking 'smack' or even having a debate of any merit is worthless garbage that leads to exaggerations/assessments of the UM fanbase, something I'm sick of dealing bc of idiots who get involved in the politics of "fandom."

Blue boy johnson

March 18th, 2013 at 6:34 PM ^

Lighten up Francis. Are you kidding me? You make it sound like drudgery. These events are fun and it is interesting to see which way the crowd is swayed. I think it will be fun if either M or MSU or both get some Goliath booing at the Palace. Afterwards you hit the bars, meet some neat people from other parts of the USA, and share a few cold ones.


March 19th, 2013 at 7:55 AM ^

It's just giggles and rainbows versus nonstop "your fanbase is so insecure they BOO at games they're not even playing."

The OPs question is the EXACT basis for "little brother" claims of insecurity and narrowed "anyone but UM"/"MSUs best wins against UM they didn't play in" crap.

It's juvenile, insecure and ridiculous, not a charming demonstration of "rivalry"


March 18th, 2013 at 6:20 PM ^

When I went to first round (technically second round) games in Cleveland a few years ago, the first two games of the day were ticketed separately than the latter two.  Is that how they are doing it at the Palace?  If so, MSU would be on the first bill and Michigan on the second bill. 

I realize many fans may buy tickets for both sets of games,  but the two B1G teams will not be playing in front of exactly the same crowd.


March 18th, 2013 at 6:36 PM ^

But there are probably a lot of people who bought full session tickets, not knowing what session UM or MSU would be in (after it became highly likely weeks ago that both would be there) and not wanting to risk it selling out. A lot of them will probably try to sell the session they don't want, though.


March 18th, 2013 at 6:35 PM ^

That's the way it's been every time I've gone. They've literally kicked everyone out of the arena between sessions and you need the second ticket of the day to reenter.

Which, as an aside,  makes the Palace a relatively bad venue for the first couple rounds of the NCAAs. 3 of the 4 times I've gone, it's been in a relatively urban arena: Milwaukee twice and the Verizon Center in DC. Between sessions, you just go to a bar, watch the other games and drink less expensive beer. Where are you supposed to go at the Palace? I guess you could tailgate, which is a better option than the games I went to when it was at the Rosemont Horizon (Jason Kidd beating Duke his freshman year), where you basically had to schlep to an airport hotel bar.  

ND Sux

March 19th, 2013 at 9:03 AM ^

Wow.  I used to be all "Go Big Tennnnn!!", until I was married to a Sparty and saw first hand what douches most of their fan base is when it comes to anything maize and blue. 

Now I root against MSU every time, no matter what.  It's even getting to the point where it's a toss-up between ND and MSU when they play. 


March 18th, 2013 at 6:24 PM ^

I'm rooting for the B1G, which includes pulling for MSU and OSU.   The conference must perform well this season in the tourney after all of the hype it has received or else questions about the quality of B1G in future seasons could affect future bids/seeding. 

Unless we're facing them, Go Green/Go White, O-H-I-O, On Wisconsin, Fight On Illini, Go Gopher Victory, Indiana Fight, and of course, GO BLUE!


March 18th, 2013 at 6:35 PM ^

I don't think MSU fans care to boo us or harass us enough to buy another set of tickets. (I believe they're separate packages since we're in separate regions)

In my experience, Michigan fans outnumber MSU fans at the Joe, but basketball is a different level for State