Why Michigan Defeated Ohio (according to some Ohio fans)

Submitted by Darth Wolverine on

I thought I might share this with my fellow fans and it's killing me that I don't have a link to provide, as it appears this post was taken down from the site. It was just on there a couple days ago but I just can't find it unfortunately. I e-mailed the text to Brian, so that is where I got it from (just pasted it here of course). The bold text below was a post on the Ohio ESPN message board for Michigan fans and of course, it's full of nothing but lame excuses. Oh what selective memory Ohio fans have, as they cannot recall the flux the Michigan program and fans went through in 2008, 2009, and maybe you can throw 2010 in there. Again, I apologize for not having a link, but this was really on their board.

An Open Letter To Fans of That Team Up North


Congratulations. You did it!! You finally did it!! After 10 grueling years of merciless beat-downs and coming up short in the few close games (save one) you finally put together the winning recipe to beat the team that caused your players pants to be yellow. You rose up in talent and skill, in game planning and sheer determination, in coaching and spirit, and you "feasted" on a dominant OHIO STATE team, coming away with a 6 point victory at home, failing to cover the spread. We are back you say!! Right? Or..... are you really saying are we back??

 
Ohio State was 6-5 with a 3-4 record in the B10. We barely beat Indiana and Toledo (a team that beat you fairly recently).
 
Ohio State has been under an NCAA microscope all season. 
 
Ohio State has faced extra suspensions and new allegations during the year. 
 
Ohio State was using a first year / interim coach with no other head coaching experience. A true rookie.
 
Ohio State had a very young and injury riddled defense. Out were Williams, Sweat, and Bryant.
 
Ohio State was using a TRUE freshman QB. Not a red shirt who had been around the system for a year already. 
 
Ohio State was dealing with all of the media hype and distraction surrounding the Urban Meyer hiring.
 
This was the team you beat. Congratulations on that hollow, tinny victory. You didn't take a monkey off your back, you simply plucked his last few fingers off that were still holding on after all of the above. Congratulations. Yet, even with all of that happening this year and leading up to the game you  know deep deep deep down in the same place where you have shivered and groaned all these years that you were lucky to beat this  beleaguered team. Lucky indeed to beat a 6-5/3-4 decimated Ohio State team AT HOME. 
 
You know in your heart of hearts that Braxton Miller overthrew not one, not two, but three wide open WRs who had left your sorry secondary in the dust and would have scored certain TDs, but didn't. You know that just one of those passes being completed meant that you lose yet again. You feel that same sick, soaking, feeling of despair that you have felt for so very long. Too long. You know in your heart that this may very well be the last year you win for a very long time again. You are a shell of your former self. A has been. You know that you had a total of just two calls against you the entire game, that won't happen in Columbus next year.
 
When Meyer shuts down the one year run you had on the Ohio talent pipeline your program will shrivel up once more and return to its' dormant, near extinct state that it was just last year. When he opens new pipelines into Florida and the south and starts pulling in national talent it will only get worse. You will return to the same punching bag you were the past seven years. The same team that lost to Appalachian State, Toledo, and such.The same team that was our doormat year in and year out. We will own you once again. You don't feel we owned you? Please. Just look at your reaction to winning against the worse Ohio State team in decades. It was sad, pathetic, and revealing. Just go to MGoBlog. The gloat-fest is so sad as to be worthy of pity. You would think that UM just won the National Championship. You would think that a powerhouse team just came in and you whipped them good. But no, you beat a team that was 3-4 in the B10. Congratulations. Revel in the victory. Gloat. Climb to the top of the highest mountains and cry out "We are Victors!!" "We have returned!!" 
 
It will make your precipitous fall from those falsely inflated heights that much more enjoyable to watch.
 
Sincerely, an Ohio State fan.
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STW P. Brabbs

December 2nd, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^

For whatever reason, this is one meme that doesn't get old for me.  I want to reach into the screen and e-punch people who post "I see what you did there," for example, but the towering condescension of Mr. Wilder there is always worthwhile. 

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aratman

December 2nd, 2011 at 2:57 PM ^

Their memories are as short as their peters.  We went on a streak before them, all should go back to the a statistical norm.  If we can just win 2 out of 3  games  we will be great.

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RedGreene

December 2nd, 2011 at 3:06 PM ^

I thought it was a nice letter, although I did stop reading after, "Congratulations. You did it!"  I would have read the rest but... ok I would have never read the rest.

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M-Dog

December 2nd, 2011 at 3:46 PM ^

 

The general theme on the Ohio State blogs appears to be:  "Enjoy it now Michigan fans, because this year was a total aberration.  Once we get Pope Urban in place, things will go back to 'normal' and the streak will continue unabated."  
 
New flash Buckeyes:  Your streak is OVAH.
 
You are done playing against Michigan teams comprised of freshmen and walk-ons.
 
You are done playing against seniors on their 3rd offensive scheme and 4th defensive scheme in 4 years.
 
You are done playing against coaches who's version of a trick play is to have the QB punt on 4th and 3 at the 35.
 
You are done playing against coaches who can't or won't recruit Ohio players right from under your noses.
 
Ohio State will need to find its own way with Urban Meyer.  Will he be your Nick Saben? Or will he be your Rich Rodriguiez?  Only time will tell.  But no matter what transpires at Ohio State, Michigan is back to being MICHIGAN.  You know, 58-43-6 Michigan.  That one.
 
 

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bronxblue

December 2nd, 2011 at 4:17 PM ^

The reason UM beat Ohio is because they scored more points than them at the end of the game. 

Everything else is just whining and rationalizations.

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rihjol

December 2nd, 2011 at 4:36 PM ^

Okay, I can see the argument that Michigan beat a crippled program this year.  Some validity to it.

 

But by the same token, 3 of the 7 wins Ohio had during its streak of "dominance" came against a Michigan team with a new coach whose only success came in the Big East, using players that did not fit (physically/mentally) his systems, were ravaged by attrition, played tons of freshmen, also faced NCAA scrutiny, etc. 

 

So if you want to put an asterisk by this win, you'd have to put one by those three wins in your column. 

 

Take your medicine.  Try again next year.

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saveferris

December 2nd, 2011 at 4:56 PM ^

So let me get this straight, this guy is essentially pointing out that one team was clearly better than the other coming into this game and that the actual result ultimately bore this out?  Insightful bunch those folks down there in Columbus.

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kehnonymous

December 2nd, 2011 at 5:20 PM ^

It's a little disappointing - and by 'a little disappointing' I mean 0% unexpected and 100% awesome to watch - that even the semi literate Ohio State fans who can type something other than 'lol scUM' are treating this as the best week in Ohio history since they hired Urban and only lost by 10, er 6 with their JV squad.

To be perfectly honest, I'm kinda looking forward to the Urban Meyer era in Cowtown, however long it lasts.  While losing all the time to Tressel was the #1 thing I hated during the Dark Years, having to listen to the fawning hymnals by Tressel's cult  about character and winning the right way was easily #1a.  Meyer, for all his faults, isn't going to indulge in sanctimonious homilies nearly to the extent that Tressel* did.

(Now, it must be said that after the 2007 season, I jokingly told my OSU co-workers that they lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to Appalachian State.)

* it's really hard to not use dollar signs in place of the s's in Tressel's name.  I'm just sayin'.

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STW P. Brabbs

December 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 PM ^

Ohio State has already endowed the Urban Meyer Ethics and Leadership in Sport Fellowship, or some such PR bullshit, so I don't know that he's an alien in the sanctimony department.  (Which may be their limp-dicked way of trying to make it look like hiring Meyer isn't sort of like pissing in the NCAA's eye - Look! The new guy has a fellowship for ethics named after him!  Don't worry about the fact that he's not actually contributing a cent of his own to it!

Ahem.  Anyway, the big difference is that Meyer doesn't have the national image of sainthood going for him, so it's a lot easier to take this kind of shit. 

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Gorgeous Borges

December 2nd, 2011 at 6:23 PM ^

Any explanation of Michigan's victory over Ohio that does not use the sale of night game jerseys in Ohio to measure the degree to which Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry is complete bullshit.

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brandanomano

December 2nd, 2011 at 6:50 PM ^

He should have put "Love, an Ohio State fan" at the end.  That way he wouldn't have sounded like a total butthurt douche.

For the record, I'm not afraid of Urban Meyer. I'd take this staff over anyone in the country.

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pound16

December 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 PM ^

I keep hearing from "t"OSU fans about the only reason UofM won was because of Miller overthrowing his WR's. I bet they wouldn't let us use that for Henne in 2007. Didn't they say we flat out lost? It's okay, this makes me happy It means they lost. 

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allintime23

December 3rd, 2011 at 8:29 AM ^

He must be new to college football and even newer to "the game" and the rivalry. You take any win you get captain. Every loss hurts. Especially when you're down 14 games in the rivalry.

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RadioSimon1983

December 3rd, 2011 at 8:49 AM ^

Sounds like a bunch of buttsore fans are making excuses as to why their team lost. 

 

Well here's why Michigan lost 9 of 10.

 

Jim Tressel cheated.  He had dozens of players getting money off the field that they didn't earn.  He used it as a recruiting tactic.  Then he knew they were getting money and instead of suspending them, he let them play.  Ohio was playing with ineligible players.  Troy Smith probably shouldn't have been on the team.  So we'll just take those wins and add them to Michigan's total.  AJ Hawk reported $3,000 in cash and countless other items no college student should have stolen.  We'll take away his wins too.  Then there's Pryor, Posey and Herron.  They shouldn't have been playing either.  So we'll take away those wins too.

Hey look at that.  If Ohio penalizes its players, Michigan probably wins 8 of 10.

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