Who would you like to see Michigan play in the bowl game?

Submitted by DISCUSS Man on November 5th, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I'd like to see Florida in a bowl game in the state of Florida. They have a good defense but their offense is awful. 

Since the Rose Bowl is most likely out of the question even if Michigan wins the rest of their games, they'd need state to shit the bed three times. 

If Michigan wins out, they could get an at-large bid to a BCS ala 2011.

B1G tie ins

  • Capital One Bowl - B1G 2 vs SEC 2
  • Outback Bowl - B1G 3 vs SEC 3/4
  • Gator Bowl - B1G 4/5 vs SEC 6
  • Buffalo Wild Wings- B1G 4/5 vs Big 12 4
  • Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas- B1G 6 vs Big 12 6
  • Heart of Dallas Bowl - B1G 7 vs C-USA 3
  • Little Caesars Pizza Bowl- B1G 8 vs MAC 1/2

Comments

Mabel Pines

November 5th, 2013 at 9:02 PM ^

and fan, and I love Michigan win or lose.  You may do what you wish, because, well, this is America.  I'm not dumping them because they are currently a hot mess.  But you should, Colby Jax.  You should totally go cheer for Ohio or Michigan State!  I feel you would make fast friends there. 

bronxblue

November 5th, 2013 at 8:46 PM ^

I don't agree that the program is assholish, but I don't know why people are completely dismissing the fact that this program is like most college programs; it's about winning and losing to an extent, but it is run by stubborn-ish people with agendas that aren't always aligned with the desires of the fanbase completely.  And listen, I love what Carr did while at UM, but he was a pretty prickly guy who rubbed lots of people wrong.  

UMgradMSUdad

November 5th, 2013 at 9:15 PM ^

And if Colby Jax had said what you just said, I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.  But what you said and what Colby said is like the difference between telling my wife that an outfit she wants to wear isn't the most flattering look and telling her, "bitch, you look like a cow!"

Colby Jax

November 5th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^

but I don't know why people are completely dismissing the fact that this program is like most college programs; it's about winning and losing to an extent, but it is run by stubborn-ish people with agendas that aren't always aligned with the desires of the fanbase completely.

Very well thought of but - in my personal opinion - too nicely said on the stubbornish people with agendas. It appears that those running this ship are so often operating against fan-friendly ideals that I have to question why so many people would love it back other than the reason that they just don't know how to live any other way.

That is the reason for widespread dismissal. People would not know how to justify the amount of time and hope they invest into Michigan football otherwise.

 

 

 

saveferris

November 6th, 2013 at 12:20 PM ^

it's about winning and losing to an extent

It's more than just an extent. Before every home game we flash on the scoreboard, "The most wins in college football", "42 Big 10 Championships", etc. Winning is our identity, and it's what we're selling to players and fans. We like to pretend that we're above the pedestrian cares of other programs where it's all about winning at any cost, but I don't see any asterisks after the above statements to the effect,

"* - and even though we're winning less than we have in recent year, our wins are more meaningful because they are achieved more ethically than our competitors to the south...you all know who we're talking about"

Let's not kid ourselves here.

allezbleu

November 5th, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^

But WTF does that have to do with supporting the players, the coaches, and everything else that Michigan Football is?

The athletic director accounts for less than 1% of my emotional investment in Michigan Football. Even if he was the world's biggest loser I would still support the team. Especially considering the players and coaches are especially likeable, even if they are underperforming. The fact that you have jumped off the ship based on the athletic director of all things makes me think that you are a pathetic "fan".

Colby Jax

November 6th, 2013 at 12:20 AM ^

Is Taylor Lewan especially likeable? Is Al Borges? Jeezus.

And I haven't jumped ship on the entire athletic department; just football, which is 95% of what concerns Brandon and is the program that was so offended it didn't get an inbred coach it sunk to new depths to jettison the new blood.

It's becoming a really messed up institution and a lot of people don't want to look at the ugly truth about it.

 

saveferris

November 6th, 2013 at 12:03 PM ^

What is likeable about Taylor Lewan?  Fingerstache.  Twosie.  Dr. Hamlet III.  He's a goofy, funny, charismatic college kid.  There's a lot to like about Taylor Lewan.  College football would be well served to have more kids like him playing.

What's your problem with him other than he lost his temper and roughed up an MSU player on Saturday?

Al Borges?  Seriously?  Since when does anybody base their loyalty and support for any team based on the personality of an assistant coach.  Jesus, you're just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks aren't you?

Colby Jax

November 6th, 2013 at 2:44 PM ^

How about his tough talk after Akron about how a game like that would never happen again, then the very next week against UConn it does happen again, and he follows that up with "I'm not going to apologize for being 4-0." That's a failure of senior leadership IMO. "We won't be bullied again" made him 0-for-2 on the tough talk follow-through with his performance being particularly embarrassing.

And whether it is true or not, his name is also part of a police report associated with some pretty heinous stuff.

saveferris

November 6th, 2013 at 3:04 PM ^

That's a failure of senior leadership IMO.

So, you're laying the blame for the poor performance of the offensive line entirely at his feet? Well, that seems reasonable. Or just a misapplication of a tired cliche'.

"We won't be bullied again" made him 0-for-2 on the tough talk follow-through with his performance being particularly embarrassing.

So, no tough talk. Got it. Team captains shouldn't suggest that the team is going to give a better effort week to week, regardless of whether they believe it or not in their heart.  Better to show panic.  Sounds like a sound philosophy from a leadership perspective.

And whether it is true or not, his name is also part of a police report associated with some pretty heinous stuff.

Except in your case, you're going to assume it's true, because you know, Lewan is such an unlikeable guy.

As I said before, just throwing any old random thing at the wall to see what sticks.

Colby Jax

November 6th, 2013 at 3:14 PM ^

The team does not follow his lead, is my point. His words are not creating a rallying point like he is intending. They really won't follow him after he talks tough and then embarrasses himself on the field like Saturday. Could you imagine this guy giving a speech to the team before the OSU game? I know he wouldn't be my choice.

And no, I never said it was true. Cut that shit out now. But the fact that it is out there should give some people pause about assuming he is a great guy, should it not? I hope it isn't true for many reasons. But you can't unsee what you saw, either.

RickyPowers

November 6th, 2013 at 5:08 PM ^

"Roughed up" an MSU player?  He did the exact same thing Gholston did.  ColbyJax is right to an extent - Lewan does a lot of talking and not much to back it up.  Its getting old.  Clowning around and twisting facemasks is not the kind of leadership we need.

Colby Jax

November 6th, 2013 at 3:00 PM ^

Your alternative, solution, whatever:

-Hire an AD who has actually been a part of an athletic department before. UM refuses to do that. The last thing you do is hire a guy who is from the bottom-line world. What kind of message does that send?

-Maximize your financial resources (the second greatest in college sports before the Ross donation) and hire a coach you like who has a great track record somwhere else. You don't have to pluck Brady Hoke out of SDSU and more than triple his salary just because he loves Michigan. That is bowing to the some incredibly harmful vices this program needs to eliminate from its culture. (edit: and I am not saying blow it up now. Hoke deserves five years for purposes of stability. His offensive staff however can go now and needs to. Huddle-up MANBALL will not work here and it's not working in many places period).

-The AD should be working the donors, the program's public voices and his own staff to get them all behind HIS outsider hire. Brandon instead was so scared of the Miles camp that he sent massive maize-and-blue painted planes down to Baton Rouge to say "See, we're talking to him! No diss here!" and then made a Lloyd Loyalist hire either because that's the clan he most identifies with or (perhaps more likely) he's just scared they would go out on the warpath for the second straight time and he didn't know how to stop them.

Double Wolverine

November 5th, 2013 at 11:16 PM ^

Given the B1G bowl tie-ins only the Little Caesar's bowl would be a neutral/home game. Everything else is squarely in the other conferences territory (Rose in CA, Capital/etc. in FL, Dallas in TX...). That fact plus the unfavorable matchups (plus the conference ineptitude) have lead to some bad bowl records in recent years.

littlebrownjug

November 5th, 2013 at 7:18 PM ^

Our chances would be minimal, but I would love to play Georgia, LSU, Texas A&M or Oklahoma. Part of the fun for me in bowls is to see Michigan play another power that we haven't met in a while. To be perfectly honest, given how young the team is, it would be a good learning experience to play one of the above.