Where will Michigan basketball be in the new rankings Monday

Submitted by goblue85 on January 20th, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Indiana, Louisville both got knocked off this week.  It will be interesting who the new number one is this week.   I feel Michigan will be number 3 this week gut feeling.  Burke was featured on lastest BTN Journey episode thought it was good piece on him. 

My top five

1 Duke

2 Kansas

3 Michigan

4 Syracuse

5 Louisville







January 20th, 2013 at 9:49 AM ^

definitely 2.  kansas was only 1 point ahead of mich last week and they didn't look good against an unranked team (texas) while mich beat a ranked team (minn). 


January 20th, 2013 at 10:29 AM ^

There is very little seperation from the top 10 teams right now.  Michigan's win @ Minnesota is just as impressive as Syracuse's @ Louisiville, IMO.

I see everyone in the top 6 sliding up in the order they are in currently with Louisville and Indiana following.


January 20th, 2013 at 12:41 PM ^

Why should Sryacuse jump everyone?  Before yesterday, they had beaten no one, and now they've beaten only Louisville, who has beaten no one.  Syracuse lost to Temple, and their top 3 wins are, in order of RPI: @ Louisville, San Diego St (neutral) and Rutgers at home(!).  Considering Louisville has lost to the only 2 top-25 teams they've played, that @ Louisville alone isn't enough to put them at #1.  

Hell, Minnesota is ahead of both Syracuse and Louisville in RPI, and NC State is just behind them.  We have a much better argument for #1 than Syracuse does.


January 20th, 2013 at 12:49 PM ^

Your first too reasons, terribly as they are, might be true, so I can't really refute them.  As for your third point - of the 5 one-loss teams at the top - Duke, Arizona, Kansas, Michigan and Syracuse - their respective SOS are 2, 4, 6, 14, 35.  

Unless you are ranking "who beat the highest ranked team last week only" Syracuse has no business being #1.  Hell, I think Minnesota is a better team than Louisville, and we won at Minnesota last week.  Minny has beaten MSU and Illinois, and their only losses are Duke, Michigan and Indiana.  That's a far better resume than Louisville, arguably better than Syracuse as well.

Moonlight Graham

January 20th, 2013 at 10:13 AM ^

The voters could move Syracuse ahead of us. The also have only one loss and they just beat #1 Louisville on the road. That might actually push them to #2. You could really throw a blanket over Duke, Michigan, Syracuse and Kansas. Man, is that a sexy-looking quartet ... or shall we say: Final Four? Replace Duke with Indiana and it would be better still, for the B1G. 


January 20th, 2013 at 10:34 AM ^

What the top 5 should rightfully be:

1. Duke

What will actually happen:

1. Syracuse


January 20th, 2013 at 11:04 AM ^

Courtesy of StatSheet, here's the season trend with ranking and vote totals:


Date AP AP Votes Coaches Poll Coaches Votes
01-14 5 1415 5 678
01-07 2 1553 2 744
12-31 2 1547 2 744
12-24 2 1551 2 745
12-17 2 1543 2 743
12-10 3 1444 3 705
12-03 3 1467 3 701
11-26 3 1421 3 691
11-19 4 1388 4 643
11-12 5 1327 5 638
11-01 5 1290 5 605

My  guess is that  floor for #2 is probably going to be in the 1550 range for the AP Poll and 750 or so for the Coaches Poll again, so if we can get there in the voting, we'd have a realistic shot at #2 (but there is very little separation between the top several teams, so perhaps a #3 is what this total would get now). That being said, Syracuse beating a #1 Louisville team is as big as our win on road against a solid Minnesota team, so I have to think some votes are sent in Syracuse's direction. I would say the most likely scenario is that end up #3 just based on the point total trends in the voting, although this is hardly the most satisfying outcome.


January 20th, 2013 at 10:55 AM ^

#1 Duke, #2 Michigan, #3 Syracuse, #4 Kansas, #5 Louisville

I think the win on the road at Minnesota will still hold some weight with voters.  Plus Kansas has been okay at best in conference play.  I think the only way Syracuse jumps us is because there is this lingering doubt as to whether we're really "back".  I think we're still fighting that perception.


January 20th, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^

Those teams all still have games to lose, and there will be a lot of churn in the top 10 over the next six weeks.  Whether someone finishes 2nd or 6th or whatever will have as much to do with the timing of their losses as anything.  

Follow Thy Fullback

January 20th, 2013 at 11:26 AM ^

We might be 3 if they let us and Syracuse jump duke since they still don't have Kelly. If not then will be 4. No way they'd put us ahead of the Cuse when they where 6 and knocked off the number 1 team and we beat the 9 best and we where 5th. Also they did it at Louisville.


January 20th, 2013 at 11:34 AM ^

Syracuse SHOULD be ranked higher than Kansas in the new poll. That being said, they probably won't be. It's good to be staying near the top of the polls. We had a pretty damn convincing win agains Minnesota, and our only loss was to a top 15 team. I think the rankings should be #1 Duke, #2 Michigan, #3 Syracuse, #4 Kansas, #5 Louisville. 

Michigan Mizo

January 20th, 2013 at 11:41 AM ^

#1 Duke

#2 'Cuse

#3 Kansas

#4 Michigan

#5 Louisville

I would like to see Michigan and Kansas flip since Kansas is 1-1 against ranked teams and only has 2 ranked games left on the schedule (K State twice)


January 20th, 2013 at 11:58 AM ^

Either #3 or #4.  Duke and Syracuse will be ahead of us, I'm pretty sure.  (Whether justified or not, beating the #1 team on the road looks really good on paper.)  Kansas, I'm not sure about.



January 20th, 2013 at 12:06 PM ^

Duke and KU will be ahead. UM had the most recent loss, Duke has the K halo, and KU beat OSU in C'bus. Cuse gets the Big East bias and credit for UL win.

We have a tough road ahead (tougher than the other 3) to stay in the top 5.

E. Gordon Gee

January 20th, 2013 at 12:14 PM ^

I agree with your top five. Although #1 went down this week, I think the manner in which the Gophers lost at home was more impressive than Syracuse road win. Given Michigan lost to OSU, teams Duke and Kansas beat, Michigan remains third! 


January 20th, 2013 at 12:43 PM ^

Hopefully the voters do more than only look at the last game played like all of you are doing.  Syracuse?  Really?  They've played one tough game all season, to a team that was probably a paper tiger to begin with.  

That said, I don't have much faith in the AP voters either.

LS And Play

January 20th, 2013 at 1:23 PM ^

Michigan will have a decent chance, regardless of whether it is warranted, of being #1 in the polls. The first place votes should be divided among Duke, Michigan, Kansas, and Syracuse, so it will come down to who gets the most second place votes. I would guess Michigan ends up #2 with Duke at #1. 


January 20th, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^

I agree with this.  Syracuse will get a solid share of first place votes from the "oh look shiny thing!" crowd who is only looking at their win against Louisville, but they'll also get a lot of 5th and 6th place votes from the crown who looks at their whole schedule and isn't impressed.  Michigan will probably be 2 or 3 because almost no one will vote them lower than 3rd or 4th.