When will we have room for a class of 26?

Submitted by Togaroga on July 26th, 2011 at 10:15 AM

I know it has been discussed here before, but my attempts at searching for old info yielded no fruit.  So, I appeal to you distinguished mgoblogamaniacs to help me understand where the medical harships and Kellen Jones situation leave us.  I remember many were expecting a class of 18-19 and the news of a mega class (25-26) was met with some surprise and wariness.  With those four departures, how much attrition and/or non-renewed fifth years should we expect/require to make room for a class of 26?

Comments

James Burrill Angell

July 26th, 2011 at 10:48 AM ^

We were at 18 or so before yesterday and added four spots with Pace, T. Jones, K. Jones and Talbot's careers ending. Thats 22 (so at least we know we have 2 more to give). This doesn't take into account any fifth year guys that aren't granted an extra year or any more injuries. We're probably pretty close. 

wlubd

July 26th, 2011 at 10:19 AM ^

By the time the 2012 class is ready to enroll, there will be room. We have 22 spots open now, a few transfers are to be expected as well at various points. No one knows when we'll get there but there shouldn't be any concerns about being able to fit everyone in.

dennisblundon

July 26th, 2011 at 10:22 AM ^

How about right meow. We are around 23 available with a little more attrition expected.(Talbott) I really wouldn't be surprised to see us sign 26 and still be able to give Clark a scholarship before a dime ever leaves his pocket. We have yet to see what a year of a new coaching regime will do to some players expectations. A season of riding the bench is often met with a hand full of transfers, especially with a change in play calling. In short, expect us to sign 26.

joeyb

July 26th, 2011 at 11:38 AM ^

I counted the 27 spots between 5th year seniors and incoming freshmen the other day. I also had 6 5th year seniors as locks. So that's 21 spots. We just had 4 clear, which makes 25. 1 more before the next recruiting class is all but guaranteed.

wesq

July 26th, 2011 at 11:36 AM ^

They can only bring in 25 next fall on scholarship that's a firm NCAA limit.   They have 5 (6 if Kellen Jones doesn't count) slots that they can use for this year's class on kids that early enroll this winter.  So even if enough scholarships are available for 27+ kids will have to able to and commit to enroll early to fit them in. 

wlubd

July 26th, 2011 at 12:14 PM ^

Basically how it works with the +3 rule is that you can sign up to 28 provided you have 3 early enrollees and room to backdate them to the previous class (within the 25 cap). We could technically sign 28 this year as long as we were under the 85 overall limit because we only signed 20 in 2011. Had we signed 25 in 2011, we'd be limited to 25 in 2012 because we would have no room in the 2011 class to backdate guys to.

BluePants

July 26th, 2011 at 1:38 PM ^

Guess there's a lot of Old Yeller fans around here....flamebait for making a point on oversigning, jeez.  

(If you missed it, this was an expression of concern that we could employ less than wholesome methods to get to 26.  However, given the gold content of Hoke's poop, I'm sure we'll be okay.)  

FreddieMercuryHayes

July 26th, 2011 at 10:37 AM ^

One thing to consider is that there is a possibility of Stonum sitting out this year and red-shirting (you know punishment and getting time to put his life in order). That would take a scholly for next year we planned on having.

TTUwolverine

July 26th, 2011 at 10:44 AM ^

If they did this I have a hard time believing they would pull his scholarship for a year while he sits out, thus counting toward the scholarship number.

 

EDIT:  Meant as a reply to DB-NTDB above.

Wolverman

July 26th, 2011 at 11:26 AM ^

 There where a few 5th who contributed very little during their careers. I'm sure we'll have atleast 1-2 RB transfer especially if rawls or hayes start , not too mention a few slot WR's and tweener defensive player would might think their talents will fit in better somewhere else. Point being it will be easy to get to 26 scholoies for 2012 class without going all Nick Saban.

maizenbluedevil

July 27th, 2011 at 1:04 AM ^

Exactly.  I'm thinking we'll have room for 26 for sure.  Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see it get up to 27.  

We're up to 22 openings currently.  

There are 2 redshirt juniors unlikely to get 5th years.  That brings us up to 24.

2 or 3 transfers before NSD brings us up to 26 or 27, and is very feasible to expect, if we've learned anything from history.  

As another poster mentioned, RJS and Ringer want to enroll early, and can be backdated to last year, which would allow us to take 27.  

 

Tater

July 26th, 2011 at 11:36 AM ^

If four more schollies don't open up between now and Feburary, Michigan will set an unofficial record for the least attrition at a major college.  It would be great if everyone was happy and nobody ever got hurt.   Sadly, though, the reality of a contact sport played by people who are mutants compared to an average person is that people get hurt.  

Brady Hoke won't be "Sabaning" anyone.

Jon Benke

July 26th, 2011 at 1:50 PM ^

Kellen, Teric, Pace, or Talbott -- I said to relax and trust in this program and the coaching staff, and that was before four spots popped up.  If the coaching staff says they have room for 26, take 26, I will believe that they have the room for 26.  Relax!