Blue in Yarmouth

January 12th, 2017 at 7:46 AM ^

I think the confusion comes from "on getting" if that is what is really posted (I haven't read the actual tweet). "On getting" sounds like someone got something where as "in getting" sounds more like it is something yet to come. I think it is just a poorly worded tweet and I can see how this could be contrued in both ways. " Good luck on getting" doesn't make much sense TBH.

oaklen

January 12th, 2017 at 12:43 AM ^

So this is basically saying that deveon knows if wheatley is offered, he would take the job? This tweet could be taken in so many different angles... If deveon knew he got the job why not just send his congratulations? 

BiaBiakabutuka21

January 12th, 2017 at 12:50 AM ^

I would love to be wrong but it sure seems like Wheatley has already accepted the WMU job. I'm sure Harbaugh has tons of options if so but I'd love to see Mike Hart back in Ann Arbor if so. I know he had tough words for Harbaugh in the past, but bygones are bygones and what not.

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BiaBiakabutuka21

January 12th, 2017 at 1:05 AM ^

I wish Wheatley the best regardless. I absolutely misread that tweet though.  I read it as him already getting the WMU job as opposed to good luck in getting it.  My bad.  Mea Culpa.  Would love to hang onto Wheatley for selfish reasons, but always encourage the personal development of anyone involved in the program.  Even all of the posters here.  Wish the best for everyone.

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DMack

January 12th, 2017 at 1:20 AM ^

Noooooooo. Don't do it. A move like this could cost him millions of dollars and a great football legacy of his own. I hope he remains patient. A couple more years and he can coach a big-time program for big-time money. 

chunkums

January 12th, 2017 at 2:11 AM ^

As much as I hate to say it, I think this would be a fantastic move for him. He's a position coach potentially taking a head coaching job in a weak conference where he can sharpen his teeth a bit. Western is in a really good place right now and is close enough to his son that they can still see each other regularly. I think staying at Michigan would be the bad financial decision, as no P5 program is going to hire Michigan's RB coach to be the HC. 

Wolfman

January 12th, 2017 at 6:03 AM ^

The above statement, although in total agreement with you, and your reasoning is solid. I am posting merely to include possibilities and opportunities this position can lead to, and they are not unprecedented. By doing no more than saying yes to a friend to supply him with the annual salary of the head football coach at WMU, if known and if not, conduct the research that would supply the answer if doing so would require very little effort on my part, This is the ironic part, he too, is an extremely well qualifed candidate, but I simply believe the weight that UM carries and a successful performance as one of Coach Harbaugh's top aides, answers both the question of whether or not he possesses the necessary experience, and to be Harbaugh's choice on two separate occasions is tantaount to a written endorsement and it's only logical to conclude minus a fully successful performance at the first stop the second offer is simply not exteded, Being one of my favorite staff members, I have mixed emotions in regard to his depoarture if successful in pursuit of such. Howeverm how is it possible to be anything other than happy for the man if he is able to achieve the next logical step in his quest, shared by almost everyone that enters this line of work, that ultimately being the head coach at their indivual alma maters.  

As to what a performance similar to Fleck''s would possibly means in terms of contifnue ascenion as a football coach. P.J. having done an outstanding job, recognized as the finest coach in the history of the program was able to achieve a position any coach might be satisfied with in terms of accomplishment in his profession. Virtually overnight, P.J. went from an annual compensation package that inclued either a 352,000 base salary or 392. I felt like a burglarer, lifting various items on his desk searching for the answer. Is could not help but be more than a little excited when I also discovered his salary at Minnesota. The figure is 3.5 million annually. Great jpb P.J.

 

Sincere wishes for a coachj who at an extremely young man went from simply being WMU's latest coach but thef level of success you achieved at this shcool could not go unnoticed which almost always is followed up by personal appearances on national T.V. ggg

Simply not wanting to make the necessary editorial corrections, I simply opene the edit option to make you aware of the numerous mistakes I made while posting this. P.J. windfall could not have happene to a nicer young man. That is a life changing amount of pesos, which in the rougly two weeks I have been back home have been further devalued from 20 pesos t9 the USD to 22 today.  That further devaluation of the peso makes my rent and all other necesities even cheaper. 

Heptarch

January 12th, 2017 at 7:41 AM ^

"By doing no more than saying yes to a friend to supply him with the annual salary of the head football coach at WMU, if known and if not, conduct the research that would supply the answer if doing so would require very little effort on my part, This is the ironic part, he too, is an extremely well qualifed candidate, but I simply believe the weight that UM carries and a successful performance as one of Coach Harbaugh's top aides, answers both the question of whether or not he possesses the necessary experience, and to be Harbaugh's choice on two separate occasions is tantaount to a written endorsement and it's only logical to conclude minus a fully successful performance at the first stop the second offer is simply not exteded, Being one of my favorite staff members, I have mixed emotions in regard to his depoarture if successful in pursuit of such. Howeverm how is it possible to be anything other than happy for the man if he is able to achieve the next logical step in his quest, shared by almost everyone that enters this line of work, that ultimately being the head coach at their indivual alma maters."

 

That was one sentence.

That should never happen.

Brodie

January 12th, 2017 at 9:16 AM ^

What big time school with big time money is going to hire a position coach? Schools like WMU will do it because they can no longer afford big time coordinators, so unless there is a big desire to take the leap to head coaching there is no incentive for them to leave for that level of job.

If he wants to advance his career, this is a good move for him. WMU is a really good situation, within a couple of years he can move on to a B1G or ACC job. If he doesn't do well, he can still be a coordinator. Ty has already made millions of dollars, too. 

 

DMack

January 12th, 2017 at 11:22 AM ^

I believe Michigan will continue to have a high level of success under Harbaugh and anyone who is a part of the staff will continue to be looked at for other coaching positions outside of Mihigan. With that being said, If Wheatley were to stay on staff and get a position bump in the next yaear or two to co-coordinator, and he worked in that capacity for another year or two, Why wouldn't he be poised to make a move to a school like, Rutgers, Syracuse, or UConn. and if the averge pay at these schools is $3 Million plus major publicity,  why on earth would you jump for this bone, when you could set a table and do much better for yourself long term.

I see folks here believe this is a good move for him but as stated before, who wants to follow a coach who went undefeated in regular season last year? Expectations are way to high. This may be the quickest way to tarnish your reputation and be cemented into coaching mediocrity  because you cant do what the last coah did. 

He's probably the only coach on staff who has not gotten a raise in profile or position bump. He's making the same as former high school coaches who never played anywhere and have limited coaching experience. When do we reward Michigan Men and promte folks who learned at the best school, under the best coaches and have done so much for Michigan? Instead, we seem to be making  former grad assistants that have been more places than a traveling salesman and have never had big-time success (playing or coaching), the next millionaire head coaches.

Whats sad is you guys think thats ok and you want Wheatley to leave and grnd it out at a mediocre school, while these other guys surf on Harbaughs wave and  get promoted within our system, and move on to big-time opportunities for millions. Wheatley has more quality football experience than arguably any of the guys on staff outside of Harb. Why not him?  

    

Brodie

January 12th, 2017 at 12:23 PM ^

IF Michigan continues to compete at this level and IF guys like Drevno leave and IF Wheatley is promoted over guys like Hamilton, Roman or others who aren't currently on staff then MAYBE he could walk right into a P5 job.

You do not need to go undefeated to jump from a MAC school to that level. Matt Campbell, Dino Babbers, Jerry Kill didn't set the world on fire before going to Iowa State, Syracuse and Minnesota. All you have to do is win, and WMU is poised to keep doing that. Why take the less direct route to where you want to be? 

DMack

January 12th, 2017 at 2:46 PM ^

Glad you opened the door. Yes Drevno will be next, to get the big time colleges calling. but you see that every year, they come calling. Because of our success, and if you believe that will continue, he will get his turn. I believe he gets to a power 5 job faster by staying put and working through the system. Of course he could get their faster by taking the WMU job and doing as well as Fleck for 4-5 years. But if he's not great at it . . . 

I dumped the Dope

January 12th, 2017 at 1:25 AM ^

Guessing here, for sure, but I believe its preparation for the future.  To go out and directly go thru the process of interviewing for a bigger job and learning what questions would be asked, etc.

I feel certain they ask about strategy, offensive and defensive systems you want to run, recruiting, compliance (amongst myriad other subjects and issues).  As the interviewee you'd have to prepare all of this and all of that would be good experience to have under your belt.

1VaBlue1

January 12th, 2017 at 7:56 AM ^

This is a great point.  I've interviewed for several jobs I knew I had no chance at due to experience and/or skill set.  But it is interesting to sit through it for the experience itself.  You can get more of an appreciation for the jobs others do, along with interview experience.  Like anything else, the more you interview, the better you'll become at it.

UMgradMSUdad

January 12th, 2017 at 6:25 AM ^

HC at WMU seems like it would be a very difficult job now with key players graduating, the incoming class stripped of most of its top recruits, and following a guy with as much energy and salesmanship as Fleck.  Rationally, everyone expected Fleck to leave, but people also operate on emotion, and I have to believe that a lot of entities that bought in to Fleck and row the boat might be much harder to engage for the next guy.    I'm not saying it can't be done, or that Fleck hasn't left the football team in better shape than when he got there, but even if Fleck and his entire staff had stayed, I doubt they would have won at the same level this coming season.