What is our ideal scenario for B1G tourney?

Submitted by Gameboy on March 8th, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Is everyone around here hoping that the team wins the B1G tourney?

I am actually hoping we don't. Even with teams like last year's UConn included, I don't think the NCAA tourney records of the teams that win the major conf tourney championships is not that great. MSU is famous for not doing well in B1G tourney, then making some serious runs in the NCAA. B1G games are so physical, I think you pay a price for every game that you play. I would argue that it is better to keep some in the reserves, get more rest and get ready for NCAA next week.

All I want out of this tourney is to lock up the #3 seed. I think we do that with the win over Minn tomorrow. After that, if we play a ton of bench players in the semi and lose, I would be pretty satisfied.

What say you?



March 8th, 2012 at 8:47 PM ^

Disagree.  It would give us a better seed, and we'll have a good few days to rest. 

Also, life is not just about the NCAA tourney.  These guys want to win the Big Ten Tourney too.   You always want to win.


March 8th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^

But even if we won the tourney, we would not be better than a #2 seed. I don't think there is any difference between #2 and #3 seed. There is significant difference between #3 and #4.

We also got the share of the regular season title. I am pretty satisfied with that. I want us to go as far as we can in the NCAA at this point.


March 8th, 2012 at 9:06 PM ^

I would rather win the B1G tourney and "only" make the Sweet Sixteen than lose in the semis and the Elite Eight. Further, I'd rather win the B1G and then take each further game as it comes, hopefully rolling up a few more wins.


March 8th, 2012 at 9:50 PM ^

I don't know about that proposition.  I think I'd take the Elite Eight.  The NCAA tournament is simply a bigger deal than the BTT.

(Now if you were talking about the regular-season Big Ten title and a Sweet 16 vs. no title and Elite Eight, I'd probably take the former.)


March 8th, 2012 at 10:00 PM ^

Yeah, I think I would agree with you every year but this one. Being in a three-way tie with MSU and Ohio I would love to get the tie-breaking win of the conference tournament. Also, being able to hang the banners is a more tangible accomplishment for Novak and Douglass' final year. Then again, this debate is nice to have based on how I thought this year might go before it started.


March 9th, 2012 at 2:26 AM ^

I agree. It would be spectacular to take that tourny championship as the "tie-breaker" for the season in the Big Ten.  It's going to be a tall order for us to win the National Championship or even to get to the Final Four without a dominant big man, although if we keep shooting the way we have been we'll definitely have a shot.  Take the banner.  I don't see the argument for wanting to lose in the semis based solely on the history of the tournament champions.  Don't live according to statistics.


March 8th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^

I want to win every game we play. Winning the B1G regular season and tourney would be huge. We would get a two seed and would be favored to get to at least the Sweet Sixteen.


March 8th, 2012 at 8:51 PM ^

I want the BTT Championship.  To start replacing all those banners that were taken down.  (They can keep the NIT one, that's fine.)



March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 PM ^

Exactly, I think we should be in Banner Collection Mode.

It makes me sad looking at the rafters in Crisler and seeing it look so empty, especially knowing that there used to be more (I miss the NIT one too). Replacing the 1998 Big Ten Tournament banner would mean a lot to me.

Although, we still need to replace a couple Final Four banners, so if the tradeoff was BTT Champion and Elite 8, or lose the BTT and make the Final Four, I would take the latter.

But why not go for them all?


March 8th, 2012 at 8:52 PM ^

Michigan beats Minnesota 137-9

Iowa beats MSU 239-2

Wisconsin beats Indiana 2-1

Purdue beats Ohio 111-4

Michigan beats Purdue 300-1

Iowa beats Wisconsin 2-0

Michigan beats Iowa 298-5



March 8th, 2012 at 8:56 PM ^

Michigan is not Kentucky. We need to win the B1G tourney to be kings of our region. We are not a nationally elite team yet. Elite means top 5-7 realistic Nat champ tier.


March 8th, 2012 at 8:59 PM ^

I'm confused.  It doesn't take much more energy to win a game than to lose one, so if you make it to the championship game, you might as well win it.

Losing the first game would suck.

Losing the second game would mean a loss to OSU.

I don't really see a choice here.


March 8th, 2012 at 8:59 PM ^

I would take a BTT championship and only a run to the sweet 16 than losing early in the BTT and winning another game to get to the elite 8. With that said I don't think winning the BTT would really put us at a disadvantage because there is a few days rest.

turd ferguson

March 8th, 2012 at 9:43 PM ^

No need to be an asshole. He's obviously a fan - just one who cares much more about the NCAA tournament than the BTT.

I want to win this thing even if it takes something out of us. That's partly b/c having a BTT title would be cool and partly b/c that probably would mean getting neutral court wins against OSU and MSU.


March 8th, 2012 at 9:11 PM ^

Who wouldn't want to win the B1G tourney.  Just one more thing to say we won, plus isn't winning the conference every teams goal from day one.  That is in all sports.


March 8th, 2012 at 9:46 PM ^

You should send Mr. Novak an email and warn him that if the team advances too far in the B1G Tournament, he might be fatigued for the NCAA Tournament.  You will be doing an enormous service for us all.


March 8th, 2012 at 10:45 PM ^

You obviously never played sports, because there is no way in hell I would ever go half ass in a tournament game.  

Stop overanalyzing everything.  You could also make the argument that if they lost right away in the big 10 tournament then they would have had to long of a time off between games and be rusty.  A true Michigan fan would want them to win EVERY game.


March 8th, 2012 at 10:52 PM ^

The OP's ideal BTT scenario:

All I want out of this tourney is to lock up the #3 seed. I think we do that with the win over Minn tomorrow. After that, if we play a ton of bench players in the semi and lose, I would be pretty satisfied.


My ideal scenario:

We beat Minnesota tomorrow 23423-3 and get our bench players plenty of run and give Blake McLimans plenty of chances to catch His Very First rebound.  Zack Novak spends the second half on the bench flirting with Margot Robbie via Twitter.

We beat Ohio State Saturday; the halftime score is 31-3.  The final score is 40-34.  Ohio State makes a furious second half run that is ultimately thwarted when Trey Burke crosses over Aaron Craft on an and-one so badly that Craft skulks back to Ed Rife's parlor in shame and gets a tattoo on his bony pale thigh that reads "Trey Burke skunked me in the B1G tournament and all I got was this lousy floor burn"

We beat MSU Sunday by some indeterminate score that is so lopsided that Zack Novak in his postgame interview wryly notes that the ratio between our score and theirs is equal to pi... but only to the first 48 digits.  It's only because of the free throws M makes when Izzo is tossed with his second technical five minutes in.  Novak punctuates the rout when he goes airborn on a through-the-legs dunk.  He's flagrantly fouled by Derrick Nix's oversized ass, but fortunately lands safely in the lap of Margot Robbie sitting courtside.  Before Novak can speak, Ms. Robbie squeals "Yes!  Of course"  

Brady Hoke nods and points in their direction.

Which would all of you prefer?