Week Eleven Polls Are Out

Submitted by justingoblue on

Let's see if we can do this without another Husker4Life type moment, shall we?

AP:

  1. Alabama (60)
  2. Oregon
  3. Kansas State
  4. Notre Dame
  5. Ohio State
  6. Georgia
  7. Florida
  8. Florida State
  9. LSU
  10. Clemson
  11. Louisville
  12. South Carolina
  13. Oregon State
  14. Oklahoma
  15. Texas A&M
  16. Stanford
  17. UCLA
  18. Nebraska
  19. Texas
  20. Louisiana Tech
  21. USC
  22. Mississippi State
  23. Toledo
  24. Rutgers
  25. Texas Tech
  • Dropped from rankings: Boise State 19, West Virginia 23, Arizona 24
  • Others receiving votes: Northern Illinois 64, Kent State 61, Michigan 53, TCU 38, Northwestern 32, Oklahoma State 27, Ohio 22, UCF 15, Boise State 11, Washington 9, Penn State 8, San Diego State 7, Tulsa 6, Arizona 5, Utah State 4, Fresno State 2

Coaches:

  1. Alabama (59)
  2. Oregon
  3. Kansas State
  4. Notre Dame
  5. Georgia
  6. Florida State
  7. Florida
  8. Clemson
  9. LSU
  10. Louisville
  11. South Carolina
  12. Oregon State
  13. Oklahoma
  14. Texas A&M
  15. Stanford
  16. Nebraska
  17. Texas
  18. Louisiana Tech
  19. UCLA
  20. Rutgers
  21. Northwestern
  22. USC
  23. Mississippi State
  24. Boise State
  25. Toledo
  • Dropped from rankings: West Virginia 19, Texas Tech 20, Oklahoma State 24
  • Others receiving votes: Northern Illinois 88, Texas Tech 68, Michigan 48, Oklahoma State 41, Cincinnati 38, TCU 37, Ohio 34, Kent State 32, Wisconsin 25, Utah State 13, UCF 12, West Virginia 7, San Diego State 7, Washington 4, Tulsa 4, Louisiana-Monroe 4, Fresno State 4, Arizona State 3, Middle Tennessee 2

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

Michigan4Life

November 4th, 2012 at 8:18 PM ^

Is a better conference than B1G. UCLA a mediocre team killed Nebraska, a team that may win the B1G. B1g best win is MSU win over a mediocre BSU that is clearly rebuilding. I am willing to bet that Oregon, USC, Oregon State and Stanford would go undefeated in B1G conference schedule because iB1G is a bad conference. You are overrating B1G that you can't see how we'll Pac 12 have been playing this year.

Yeoman

November 4th, 2012 at 8:36 PM ^

Except for maybe Oregon, probably not. The other schools would be 5-8 point favorites (give or take a few points for home field) against any of the top five or so schools in the B1G. Play a couple of games as a two or three-point favorite and three more favored by a TD and chances are good you'll lose one of them.

snowcrash

November 4th, 2012 at 9:40 PM ^

I think with Robinson healthy we'd be 50-50 or better to beat any of those except Oregon at a neutral site. SC is inconsistent and has a shaky defense. Stanford is basically Notre Dame but with a weaker secondary. Oregon St doesn't do anything special on either side of the ball.

funkywolve

November 4th, 2012 at 11:37 PM ^

Ohio U 24 - Penn St 14 (loss to a MAC School)

Virginia 17- Penn St 16 (loss to a 3-6 Virginia team)

ASU 45 - Illinois 14

Louisiana Tech 52 - Illinois 24

Ball St 41 - Indiana 39

Navy 31 - Indiana 30

Oregon St 10 - Wisconsin 7 (in addition Wisky barely squeaked by Northern Iowa by 5, UTEP by 11 and Utah St by 2.

Iowa St 9 - Iowa 6

Central Michigan 32 - Iowa 31

UCLA 36 - Nebraska 30

UM, MSU and Purdue all lost to ND.

Fair or unfair that's a lot of losses in non-conference play with no marquee wins to speak of in non-conference play.  The Big Ten's fate was sealed before conference play even began.

 

 

justingoblue

November 4th, 2012 at 1:46 PM ^

Coaches:

SEC: 7 (1, 5, 7, 9, 11, 14, 23)

Pac 12: 5 (2, 12, 15, 19, 22)

BXII: 3 (3, 13, 17)

ACC: 2 (6, 8)

B1G: 2 (16, 21)

Big East: 2 (10, 20)

D1 IND: 1 (4)

WAC: 1 (18)

MWC: 1 (24)

MAC: 1 (25)

AP:

SEC: 7 (1, 5, 7, 9, 12, 15, 22)

Pac 12: 5 (2, 13, 16, 17, 21)

Big XII: 4 (3, 14, 19, 25)

B1G: 2 (5, 18)

ACC: 2 (8, 10)

Big East: 2 (11, 24)

D1 IND: 1 (4)

WAC: 1 (20)

MAC: 1 (23)

LSAClassOf2000

November 4th, 2012 at 2:56 PM ^

It seems like this always happens as we get deeper in  the season, but the polls now share 23 teams regardless of position. They share the same seven SEC teams, the same five Pac-12 teams, three of the four Big XII teams, both ACC teams and both Big East teams as well as Louisiana Tech and ND. In another week or two, they could be almost perfect duplicates save for Ohio State. 

AMazinBlue

November 4th, 2012 at 3:43 PM ^

I can point out the many flaws; OSU #5, Toledo and Usc still ranked and others, but using our record, SOS and this season as defense of Michigan being ranked is pure homerism and ignoring the reality.

OSU is undefeated.  They haven't really beaten anyone significant, but they ARE undefeated.

Toledo has won seven in a row or more, meh ok.

USC, they're ranked because they are USC.

Please don't compare us to USC.  Did you watch the game last night?  They have more size and team speed than we do, they're receivers are faster than our dbs and our offensive line isn't exactly blowing open holes for Fitz.

Do you think for a second that we could have scored 51 on Oregon???  Let alone holding them to 62???  That would have been the ugliest game in UM history if we were to play Oregon right now.

We shouldn't be ranked because we have beaten no one.  Many others shouldn't be either, but if we win out, we'll get a better bowl game than the bottom half of the polls.  Take care of business and let's see what happens.

WMU81

November 4th, 2012 at 3:52 PM ^

Shit schools can help their schedule.. Win a ton of games in your shit conference, get invited to join bigger conf, win shit ton more games, then bigger schools will play you and you will get more respect.. Easy formula

We lost to two teams in the top 5 and Nebraska..

UFM

November 4th, 2012 at 4:58 PM ^

Interesting to read the wide range of opinions on the polls on this board. Unsurprisingly, most of you feel that UM is not ranked high enough, I don't really have an opinion one way or the other. All I know is you lost 3 games to three tough teams, but at the same time, you can't really point to a statement win against a good team. So, I'm curious, both polls have UM ranked at #28, if you disagree with that ranking, where would YOU rank UM?

justingoblue

November 4th, 2012 at 5:11 PM ^

I'm not sure where I would rate M at this point, but I do agree with people above that it's pretty frustrating being 28th when Vegas would probably have us favored by 10+ on several teams above us here.

If I had to make a pick, I'd say within a spot either way of USC; they've looked better at times, but their three losses are worse than M's. The 21-25 spots always seem random to me, so I don't think it's a big deal either way.

michfan6060

November 4th, 2012 at 5:28 PM ^

Geeze you guys should listen to yourselves. All I keep hearing is this team doesn't deserve to be ranked and that team doesn't deserved to be ranked. You guys do realize there are 25 spots that have to be filled even if the teams aren't really that great?

Yeoman

November 4th, 2012 at 7:01 PM ^

Sagarin predictor ratings of teams in the AP poll but not in the Sagarin top 25:

  • 34. Mississippi State
  • 46. Rutgers
  • 48. Louisville
  • 49. Louisiana Tech
  • 73. Toledo

Top 25 teams in the Sagarin predictor not in the AP poll:

  • 13. Arizona State
  • 18. Oklahoma State
  • 19. BYU
  • 21. Utah State
  • 23. Michigan

Utah is #26, just to add to the regional flavoring here.

There does seem to be a systematic overvaluing of Big East and to a lesser extent the south in the human polls at the expense of the west (Toledo's part of this too, since their only supposedly big win was against Cincinnati) . We'll get a small interregional test when Utah State goes to La Tech in a couple of weeks; otherwise we pretty much have to wait for the bowls because it's conference play from here on out.

 

AMazinBlue

November 4th, 2012 at 10:21 PM ^

Barkley and those receivers would pick our secondary apart over 60 minutes.  Remember, the main reason our pass defense is ranked so high is because the only team that could pass well against us was Alabama.  The rest of the teams we played couldn't complete a pass downfield because of accuracy, not spectacular D on our part.

Our secondary doesn't have the speed to keep up with big, fast wideouts.  Against Nebraska, they had at least five opportunities to complete big pass plays, Martinez is simply a poor throwing Qb, that's why those passes weren't completed.  Go look at the replay, those guys were wide open.

We're not bad on pass defense, we play in a conference with bad throwing QBs.  All the QBs we have faced are in the bottom if not bottom 25% of all passers in the country.  AS passing teams, Purdue is 69th, MSU 78th, Nebraska 80th, ND 90th and Minnesota 94th,

Our pass offense is 108 and Illinois, Umass and Air Force are worse.

Bottom line, we're not as good as we look.

Yeoman

November 4th, 2012 at 10:39 PM ^

Passing yardage is a terrible metric. Alabama's 81st, right behind Nebraska in passing yards--they don''t have to pass a lot because most of the time they're busy running the ball down people's throats. It's a choice, not a measure of skill. They're completing 67% of their passes for more than 9 YPA and they haven't thrown an interception all year. That's a bad passing team?

funkywolve

November 4th, 2012 at 11:50 PM ^

to watch people get all up in arms about the polls.  Go back and look at the polls from previous years and you'll that the final polls end up looking like this: 

undefeated teams

one loss teams

two loss teams

three loss teams

Now there might be a 2 loss team ahead of one or two one loss teams and a 3 loss team ahead of a couple of 2 loss teams but that's how the polls end up.  It's not rocket science and it's probably not right but that's how the polls end up.  Your conference's reputation is made in the non-conference slate (and in the case of the SEC from dominating the BCS title game).