Way OT: Dealing with criminal trash pandas

Submitted by Grampy on
I’m living near the woods, and one or more raccoons have invaded my deck to get after my bird feeders. I would like to get rid of them and am hoping someone on the board has experience with them that doesn’t require the use of firearms. My buddy has a paintball gun, but I don’t know if that is effective. How well do traps work? [EDIT]: Thanks for all the useful, if somewhat depressing, advice. There’s a reason they are called ‘vermin’.

MaizeMN

April 28th, 2018 at 9:19 AM ^

My family owns a disaster restoration company and I once had to go on a job where raccoons had nested in a seldom used chimney. One day, the homeowner decided to start a fire. Next thing he knew flaming raccoons fell into the firebox, spilling into the home, burning and damaging everything in their path. I' be been on some terrible restoration jobs in my day, but that was, by far, the most gruesome, stench riddled carnage I have ever witnessed.

xtramelanin

April 28th, 2018 at 9:27 AM ^

at that one.  not in regards to anything gory (that'd be cruel if done on purpose), but in regards to the mental picture of the total chaos that would've erupted, with flaming raccoons running around inside a house.  

MaizeMN

April 29th, 2018 at 5:06 AM ^

...I've had a few laughs at the recollection. It was pretty easy to see the paths that they "blazed" through the dwelling. Oddly similar to the ones taken during a drunken pub crawl on St. Patty's Day, if I had to make a comparison. Tons of little sooty paw prints, criss-crossing, all over the floors, walls, furniture, drapes, and even the ceiling in one room.

Bo248

April 29th, 2018 at 8:59 AM ^

My daughter bought a foreclosed house that had raccoons living in the attic at one point. They entered by chewing a hole through an attic vent. They create communal waste piles called “latrines”. Removal is almost classified a toxic waste, the crap can contain a parasite (Baylisascaris) which is untreatable and can cause death. I have avoided and disliked them ever since. If you are certain you are been invaded by TPs, stop encouraging them to pay a visit, you may be eliminating a future problem at the same time.

LSAClassOf2000

April 28th, 2018 at 8:18 AM ^

I live next to some woods, and all of our feeders are elevated, which helps a bit except that it doesn't faze the squirrels, of course, and we even have the feeders that are supposedly meant to mitigate the squirrel issue.

The raccoons around here tend to go directly for the trash cans, and we've had a few even get stuck in them over the years. The solution to that has historically been to drag the can to the edge of my property (there is a fence between my yard and the woods) and tip it over so they can wander away. 

Lampuki22

April 28th, 2018 at 8:23 AM ^

did you post this just because you think “trash panda” is funny. Very millenial.

Of serious...Get rid of the bird feeder
Get a big mean dog.

xtramelanin

April 28th, 2018 at 8:26 AM ^

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non-explosive.  remember to follow through, they're pretty tough.

they are destructive of crops and some of our livestock - specifically we raise hundreds of chickens every year and if we lose any to predation, its the racoons.  

TheRonimal

April 28th, 2018 at 11:01 AM ^

I never considered that. Caught quite a few at my parents house growing up that we killed. Also had a few nights sitting on the patio with a flashlight waiting for them to come try to eat our outdoor cat’s food in the garage. It was pretty fun sniping them out of the trees as somebody held the flashlight.

greatlakestate

April 28th, 2018 at 5:01 PM ^

IDK about coyote pee but we live in a rural area and haven't had near as much problem with raccoons since actual coyotes showed up about 10 years ago.  We also have less deer damage to shrubs. (I don't think coyotes can take down a full-grown deer but I'm sure they can take down a fawn)

Cw1lly33

April 28th, 2018 at 8:56 AM ^

Sling shot with ball bearings. One hit to the head and they are dead! Also works on opossum and other rodents. I grew up in southern Ohio and Kentucky and this is what I used as kid to get rid of rodents. That said I do have soft spot in my heart for raccoons because I had one growing up and he was awesome

Winchester Wolverine

April 28th, 2018 at 9:31 AM ^

One time, a buddy and myself were outside this little concert venue. We were absolutely trashed. We're standing there, drunkenly talking, when we hear these loud, excruciating cries coming from the dumpster outside the building. What follows is the dumbest, most ridiculous Halloween night ever. My friend looks into the dumpster, and according to him, it's mostly empty except for 2 "baby" raccoons trying to escape. My friend has one of the biggest hearts of anyone I know, and starts doing exactly what I thought he would do. He's taking his coat off, preparing to dumpster dive, and he's like, "come on dude, we gotta get em out". In my state, I guess I just couldn't let him do it alone. Any other time I would have joined the group of people pointing and laughing at some dude swimming through garbage, chasing little animals in a metal box. I hear him struggling in there, so I jump in to help. Number 1, they weren't babies. They were pretty much full grown. And they were growling. Number 2, I'm an idiot because I still try to grab one. After a few attempts, I successfully throw my jacket over one, pick it up, and throw it over. At least that's how simple I thought it went. My buddy did the same. Afterwards, I get out, walk past the (now larger) group laughing at us, and we get to the car. This is when I look at my hands. They are ripped to shreds. My friend is bleeding badly from one of his fingers. Then it hits me, what about, uh, rabies? My buddy's like, "meh" until I Google it and find that, if you go untreated, you 100% die. There's no treatment once diagnosed. He's then like, "fuck", and we end up spending the rest of the night in a hospital, getting rounds of shots from nurses laughing at our stupidity. I'm still paying for those thousand dollar shots today. So, I recommend that you don't handle them by hand like an urban, drunk Steve Irwin.

Bo Schemheckler

April 28th, 2018 at 9:49 AM ^

Yea we have had raccoons bite through knife-proof gloves before so do not try and handle them under any circumstances. If you cage trap them hold them far away from the body because the meaner ones will grab you through the cage and try to pull you into the bite zone and with those opposable thumbs they are very good at it.

Grampy

April 28th, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^

A group of us rented a lodge for the weekend, and on arriving Friday night, we discovered the previous occupants had left two large and un-emptied garbage buckets inside.  holding our noses, we empted the contents into large garbage bags and hauled them down to the dumpster.  The buckets themselves stank so bad from decomposed foodstuffs, we left them outside with the idea we would hose them out in the morning.  Later that night, we wandered outside and saw a pair of raccoons in the buckets.  Next morning, when we went to hose the buckets, we found them to be clean to the point you could have eaten out of them if you were unaware that raccoons had swabbed them clean with their tongues.  I still shiver when I think about it.

ruthmahner

April 28th, 2018 at 9:39 AM ^

In my world, it's a firearm.  Possums, raccoons, skunks.  Very effective.  It's been a couple of months now since we've had to deal with any!  Then again, we're coming up on snake season.

ruthmahner

April 28th, 2018 at 10:40 PM ^

We leave most of the snakes alone, but I don't put up with copperheads if they come near the house.  They usually get beheaded and the body gets displayed as a warning to their friends and relatives.  Sort of like what I expect Don Brown's gang of dudes to do to Sparty and OSU.

 

[edit: after Notre Dame, of course]

stephenrjking

April 28th, 2018 at 10:28 AM ^

Up here the raccoons are elbowed out by black bears. Cleaning up the garbage after one of those have come after it is unpleasant. They're fewer in number, but they have quite the range.

Sopwith

April 28th, 2018 at 11:02 AM ^

I love people who want to be close to nature, then as soon as nature shows up, its "FUCK YOU NATURE DIE DIE DIE GET OUTTA HERE YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT NATURE."

FYI, birds can feed themselves. The vermin are the ones whose population you're artificially inflating with the feeders.

Grampy

April 28th, 2018 at 11:47 AM ^

I will state that the wife is a huge constraint in my problem space.  Other than having other homes a quarter mile away, I would happily blast the pests into oblivion if it wouldn't create more problems at home than it would solve.

wigeon

April 28th, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^

We had a huge problem with them years ago.  Can affirm the live trap with wet cat food will work, for both raccoons and feral cats. Both of which are filthy disease wagons.  

I don't give a whit about humane ways of controlling them. Cute? Sure.  But I kill every single one that invades the perimeter. 

old98blue

April 28th, 2018 at 11:16 AM ^

My father inlaw deals with them in his barn all the time. Go to Tractor Supply get the wire cage live traps throw in some  marshmallows or cat food and like someone else said take them far away and release them

BIGWEENIE

April 28th, 2018 at 11:27 AM ^

Have a heart live trap. I worked in a huge factory that had tons of land. Being a city kid when we moved to the county I didnt know better. I traped 26 in 1 month. Bait with a jar lid with Jam or jelly on it. Would haul them to work early every morning right in the car, pull up open the trap let them out. 1 day a guy says " you notice all the coons in here, they are always in my trash" I just blamed it on he doors being open at night. They didnt hurt anything in the building.